Must a Wall of Force be a flat, 2-D wall? Can you shape it? Into a box? Or an arch? Or anything else? Must it be anchored to the floor? Another wall or the ceiling?
The SRD is unclear (don't have the PHB with me right now), so I'm curious what others think. One of my players wants to use it next week to encase a spider climbing mage who's harrasing them.
Any thoughts?
Greg
It's not shapeable -- it's just a "flat, vertical plane".
If it was shapeable like Wall of Stone, then Forcecage would be pretty much obsolete.
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Must a Wall of Force be a flat, 2-D wall? Can you shape it? Into a box? Or an arch? Or anything else? Must it be anchored to the floor? Another wall or the ceiling?
The SRD is unclear (don't have the PHB with me right now), so I'm curious what others think. One of my players wants to use it next week to encase a spider climbing mage who's harrasing them.
Any thoughts?
Greg
PHB states that the caster can form the wall into a flat, vertical plane whose area is up to one 10-foot square per level.
It's not shapeable -- it's just a "flat, vertical plane".
It does indeed say that. Not sure what I was thinking when I read that. Wow, I really need to read these things more carefully.
Greg
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It's not shapeable -- it's just a "flat, vertical plane".It does indeed say that. Not sure what I was thinking when I read that. Wow, I really need to read these things more carefully.
Greg
Also if it works better for game play and story development, ask the DM.
house rule to let it work, but yes it would change the dynamics of other spells, namely ForceCage.
I was just wondering...
why not just cast Otiluke's Sphere spell. I believe it's composed of force "energy".
and believe me... it's just as annoying to get out of.
Also if it works better for game play and story development, ask the DM.
house rule to let it work, but yes it would change the dynamics of other spells, namely ForceCage.
Actually, I am the DM. One of my players asked me ahead of time if it would work. Being thick and a little slow, I for some reason couldn't parse the SRD properly. :)
But it's ok. We played it as written, and the game went off well. (Well, sorta. 4 PCs down and 2 retreated... but that's another story.)
Greg
I was just wondering...
why not just cast Otiluke's Sphere spell. I believe it's composed of force "energy".
and believe me... it's just as annoying to get out of.
He's a sorcerer and it's not on his spell list. But I'll let him know and he may choose it later on.
Greg
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I've houseruled a 6th level version that you can make into a hemisphere or tube. You can't trap people in it, though.
Forcecage is essentially the 7th level version, then, in which you CAN trap people.
While you've since discovered that the Wall of Force is a flat, 2-D plane, you can house-rule whether or not the plane is required to be vertical, anchored to any other surface, or static in space (able to fall or be moved).
There can be interesting dynamics at work there if your players are aware of your interpretation of the spell.
From the spell description, it sounds like you can't shape it exactly, but if you cast it multiple times you could form a box, essentially shaping it. There's nothing in the description about it having to be anchored to a solid surface, so there's nothing to keep a spellcaster from having the different walls connect to form a box.
From the spell description, it sounds like you can't shape it exactly, but if you cast it multiple times you could form a box, essentially shaping it. There's nothing in the description about it having to be anchored to a solid surface,
Interesting concept. So what happens if you cast the spell, horizontally, 4ft in the air? Can you land on it?
.. A launch pad for the Levitate spell?and for that matter, if it works, why not set the wall 5 ft in the air and effectively close line charging enemies.....
... umm... wait... maybe not having it anchored is a bad idea..
*chuckles*
From the spell description, it sounds like you can't shape it exactly, but if you cast it multiple times you could form a box, essentially shaping it. There's nothing in the description about it having to be anchored to a solid surface, so there's nothing to keep a spellcaster from having the different walls connect to form a box.
The spell says it's a flat vertical plane. So you could form a box with no floor or ceiling.
The spell says it's a flat vertical plane. So you could form a box with no floor or ceiling.From the spell description, it sounds like you can't shape it exactly, but if you cast it multiple times you could form a box, essentially shaping it. There's nothing in the description about it having to be anchored to a solid surface, so there's nothing to keep a spellcaster from having the different walls connect to form a box.
If you were to use it in a place with a natural ceiling, than you'd only need vertical planes that reach from floor to ceiling. It wouldn't work outdoors, but in most indoor situations it would work fine.