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Anyone know what's the status between Kenzer & Co. and 4E? Will it be moving over fully like NG and GG?


joela wrote:
Anyone know what's the status between Kenzer & Co. and 4E? Will it be moving over fully like NG and GG?

I thought they were converting their setting over to Hackmaster?


last I heard is that they work on a new hackmaster edition, which will cover hackmaster and Kalamar.

Though I don't play hackmaster, I am very interested in the new books - I like Kalamar :-) and I am happy that they do not take the 4.0-Train and will support this with my money.

Paizo Employee CEO

I talked with David Kenzer, the CEO, at the GAMA Trade Show yesterday. They have no plans to go to 4th edition and will be coming out with a new edition of Hackmaster soon. Btw, I saw some cool Aces and Eights products, including the new printing of the core books. Nice stuff.

-Lisa

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Thanks, y'all!

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Lisa Stevens wrote:
They have no plans to go to 4th edition and will be coming out with a new edition of Hackmaster soon.

I do hope Hackmaster 4th edition is far less...convoluted...than the current system. Did Mr. Kenzer say how much backward compatible it will be?

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joela wrote:
Lisa Stevens wrote:
They have no plans to go to 4th edition and will be coming out with a new edition of Hackmaster soon.
I do hope Hackmaster 4th edition is far less...convoluted...than the current system. Did Mr. Kenzer say how much backward compatible it will be?

Nope, he didn't. Sorry.

-Lisa

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Lisa Stevens wrote:
joela wrote:
Lisa Stevens wrote:
They have no plans to go to 4th edition and will be coming out with a new edition of Hackmaster soon.
I do hope Hackmaster 4th edition is far less...convoluted...than the current system. Did Mr. Kenzer say how much backward compatible it will be?

Nope, he didn't. Sorry.

-Lisa

Not a problem. I'll probably wind up converting it to PFRPG or, in extremis, 4E anyway :)


Hiya.

Why don't you pop over to the Kenzer & Co. boards and ask him? Nice boards, overall, and you can directly talk with the 'big guys'. Dave, Jolly, Mark and the whole crew over there are *definitly* gamers! :)

( http://www.kenzerco.com/forums/ )

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pming wrote:

Hiya.

Why don't you pop over to the Kenzer & Co. boards and ask him? Nice boards, overall, and you can directly talk with the 'big guys'. Dave, Jolly, Mark and the whole crew over there are *definitly* gamers! :)

( http://www.kenzerco.com/forums/ )

trying to be sneaky about it. :)


joela wrote:
pming wrote:

Hiya.

Why don't you pop over to the Kenzer & Co. boards and ask him? Nice boards, overall, and you can directly talk with the 'big guys'. Dave, Jolly, Mark and the whole crew over there are *definitly* gamers! :)

( http://www.kenzerco.com/forums/ )

trying to be sneaky about it. :)

It's not working. :)

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Mark Plemmons
Kenzer and Company
Art Director, Editor, Writer, Convention Manager
www.kenzerco.com
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Seriously, though, you might want to check out the discussion threads about the next edition of HackMaster, like this one:

5E HackMaster - Ask the Design Team

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On a practical note; would the (apparent) clause in the GSL, forbidding simultaneous production of products for two editions of D&D, have interfered with the right to print 4E support and Hackmaster at the same time?

Whilst not strictly OGL (and thus, not explicitly called out in the GSL text), Hackmaster is a variant of AD&D 1st Edition. Has there been any attempt to rescind or shorten that licence, or does it stilll have a long time to run?

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Mark Plemmons wrote:
joela wrote:
pming wrote:

Hiya.

Why don't you pop over to the Kenzer & Co. boards and ask him? Nice boards, overall, and you can directly talk with the 'big guys'. Dave, Jolly, Mark and the whole crew over there are *definitly* gamers! :)

( http://www.kenzerco.com/forums/ )

trying to be sneaky about it. :)

It's not working. :)

---------
Mark Plemmons
Kenzer and Company
Art Director, Editor, Writer, Convention Manager
www.kenzerco.com
---------

Ack! The light! The light!

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Mark Plemmons wrote:

Seriously, though, you might want to check out the discussion threads about the next edition of HackMaster, like this one:

5E HackMaster - Ask the Design Team

Neato. Thanks!


Snorter wrote:

On a practical note; would the (apparent) clause in the GSL, forbidding simultaneous production of products for two editions of D&D, have interfered with the right to print 4E support and Hackmaster at the same time?

Whilst not strictly OGL (and thus, not explicitly called out in the GSL text), Hackmaster is a variant of AD&D 1st Edition. Has there been any attempt to rescind or shorten that licence, or does it stilll have a long time to run?

Our license with Wizards expired a few months ago, and we didn't try to renew it (though I doubt WotC would have been interested, had we wanted to).

As for the GSL, I haven't paid much attention to it since we don't plan on using it. Seems to me that the GSL will only provide its users with some semi-official logos to put on their products, in exchange for a lot of hoops to jump through. Heck, if I were going to start up my own company and make a 4E-compatible product, I'd just do that: write my own book, avoid reprinting anything WotC owns, and call it 4e compatible. No need for a license of any kind. (Same way that every other business in the world makes products compatible with those of another manufacturer; auto parts and computer parts springing first to my mind.)

The next edition of HackMaster will retain the attitude that people love about HM and old-school D&D, without copying it.

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Mark Plemmons wrote:
The next edition of HackMaster will retain the attitude that people love about HM and old-school D&D, without copying it.

Mr. Plemmons, I checked out the provided link. What's the release date status on 5th edition?

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Mark Plemmons wrote:
The next edition of HackMaster will retain the attitude that people love about HM and old-school D&D, without copying it.

Hoody Hoo!

(sorry; couldn't resist. Can't believe I'm the first...)


joela wrote:
Mark Plemmons wrote:
The next edition of HackMaster will retain the attitude that people love about HM and old-school D&D, without copying it.
Mr. Plemmons, I checked out the provided link. What's the release date status on 5th edition?

The current plans are:

Basic HackMaster - Summer 2009
Advanced HackMaster - Summer 2010

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Mark Plemmons wrote:
joela wrote:
Mark Plemmons wrote:
The next edition of HackMaster will retain the attitude that people love about HM and old-school D&D, without copying it.
Mr. Plemmons, I checked out the provided link. What's the release date status on 5th edition?

The current plans are:

Basic HackMaster - Summer 2009
Advanced HackMaster - Summer 2010

Thanks!

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