Runeslave Cauldron Question


Rise of the Runelords


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If a non-giant corpse was polymorphed into a giant corpse and dumped into said cauldron, which would happen?

1 - The non-giant would arise as a runeslave giant and stay that way.
2 - The non-giant would arise as a runeslave giant until the polymorph wore off at which point it would become a runeslave non-giant.
3 - The non-giant would arise as a runeslave giant until the polymorph wore off at which point it would revert back to its regular non-giant, non-runeslave form.
4 - Nothing would happen at all.


Help?

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Warforged Goblin wrote:

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Help?

I believe the question is a non-starter, as it states in the spell description that it can only be cast on willing, living creatures (emphasis on living) and that any creature killed automatically reverts back to their normal form, though they remain dead. I don't think the rules as written would ever allow the situation you describe to arise.

Of course, if its something you'd think would be cool for your game, as a DM I suppose it's your right, neigh, your responsibility to have whichever would be the most interesting for your game to happen. ^_^


ReApErMaN8691 wrote:
Warforged Goblin wrote:

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Help?

I believe the question is a non-starter, as it states in the spell description that it can only be cast on willing, living creatures (emphasis on living) and that any creature killed automatically reverts back to their normal form, though they remain dead. I don't think the rules as written would ever allow the situation you describe to arise.

Of course, if its something you'd think would be cool for your game, as a DM I suppose it's your right, neigh, your responsibility to have whichever would be the most interesting for your game to happen. ^_^

Instead of saying polymorph I should've said polymorph any obejct, which would fit the spell's description.


Personally, I plan to remove the Cauldron's restriction that it can only be used on giants. I think it would be great fun to have the PCs toss a compatriot into the pot if he should bite it in the library area (which is a distinct possibility). The runeslave template doesn't seem to have any element that would rule out as applicable to a non-giant.

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---a bit off to the side here---

Reading about the rune cauldron reminded me of the many years in the past that I was a very tiny nerdling reading The Black Cauldron by Lloyd Alexander. Check it out...here...
A fun and extremely random idea to borrow for a cool adventure.


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I tend to rule these by whether the spell is permanent or instantaneous. A permanent spell doesn't change the object's fundamental nature; an instantaneous spell does.

Poly Any Object is permanent so I wouldn't have this work. You'd just have a dead, polymorphed man in the cauldron. On the other hand, if the person were originally a giant it would work even if he'd been poly(any)ed into a man.

Similarly, if you polymorphed yourself into a white dragon and slept with someone, your offspring wouldn't be half-dragons. If a white dragon polymorphs himself into a man and sleeps with someone, his offspring *are* half-dragons.

But there are certainly other valid interpretations, and if raising men as runeslaves sounds good for your campaign, you should pick one of those. Just try to be consistent with your other Polymorph-related rulings. (Not easy, I know--it's the least stable spell the whole book.)

Mary

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