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I'd be happy to know or be acquainted (or even a passing recognition) with any of the others pc’s, I’d planned for Khadath background to include that he’s been a resident of Daggerford for the past several years.
I'm thinking that you'd only have met Kessel recently then. He's been away for the last five years and only returned recently.

Lorderl |

Lorderl wrote:I'm thinking that you'd only have met Kessel recently then. He's been away for the last five years and only returned recently.
I'd be happy to know or be acquainted (or even a passing recognition) with any of the others pc’s, I’d planned for Khadath background to include that he’s been a resident of Daggerford for the past several years.
5-7 years is the time frame that i was looking at being Khadath arrival in Daggerford, so he could have known Kessel before he left for waterdeep. Kessel has grown since then and Khadath may not have recognized him as he only passed by briefly.
Perhaps Kessel befriended Khadath upon his arrival? Thus they would have known one another for about 2 years

Callum |

Oh! One thing we forgot to establish is do the PCs know each other! Kessel grew up in Daggerford (mainly it's outlying wilds) but has spent the last five years in Waterdeep. As a child Kessel was fairly friendly and with his high Charisma made friends quite easily. I'd suggest that he could have been childhood friends with anyone who grew up in the area.
Kessel also spent 5 years in Waterdeep. He also traveled on the road to and from Waterdeep at least twice, it's possible he met others in the free city as well as people on the road. I'd really like to establish who Kessel knows before we come across each other in the game.
Tobin has lived in Daggerford for the past few years, though before that he lived on his family's farm some miles away, and would only have come to town on market days - so it's unlikely he could have been a childhood friend of Kessel's. However, they'd probably know each other a little by now.

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5-7 years is the time frame that i was looking at being Khadath arrival in Daggerford, so he could have known Kessel before he left for waterdeep. Kessel has grown since then and Khadath may not have recognized him as he only passed by briefly.Perhaps Kessel befriended Khadath upon his arrival? Thus they would have known one another for about 2 years
I like that, knew each other as children but hardly recognize each other now.

Lorderl |

Lorderl wrote:I like that, knew each other as children but hardly recognize each other now.
5-7 years is the time frame that i was looking at being Khadath arrival in Daggerford, so he could have known Kessel before he left for waterdeep. Kessel has grown since then and Khadath may not have recognized him as he only passed by briefly.Perhaps Kessel befriended Khadath upon his arrival? Thus they would have known one another for about 2 years
error in my previous post there, they would have known each other for the 5-7 years (since thats when Khadath arrived in daggerford) but only spent time together for the 2 years differnce before Kessel left for waterdeep.
yea, it sounds good that they didn't recognize each other right away, kessel in his mood perhaps never even looked up from his playing :)

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Guy Humual wrote:Wow, they both have dragons on their left arms, what are the chances?sweet, no wonder they friends haha.
I actually got my description from a npc in AC1: The Shady Dragon Inn :)
Well not all dragons are alike, Kessel's tattoo wraps around his forearms, and is more akin to dragons seen in Celtic heraldry then any found in the Monster Manuals. Kessel's tattoos also carry some religious significance. Although it's cool they both have dragons I think we can say with some certainty that the dragon tattoos look nothing alike. :)
One of the last things Kessel did while he was still at Daggerford was get his Tattoos. If Khadath got his around the same time they might have even got them done together. Seeing as both Kessel and Khadath are scholars (after a fashion) I imagine that this is the source of their past friendship .

Lorderl |

One of the last things Kessel did while he was still at Daggerford was get his Tattoos. If Khadath got his around the same time they might have even got them done together. Seeing as both Kessel and Khadath are scholars (after a fashion) I imagine that this is the source of their past friendship .
Khadath dragon tattoo was imposed upon him by his master (he was a slave for a time) to mark him as a sorcerer (its what his master believe), the eagle was done in daggerford as another respresentation of strength and freedom as well as shed his old life (same as for his bald head). So the pair went togehter, Kessel for his dragon tattoo, and Khadath for his eagle :)
I'm laughing to myself because i'm just writing little bits and pieces of his backround here, but i should start writing it out in word so that i can paste it into his profile.

Lorderl |

One of the last things Kessel did while he was still at Daggerford was get his Tattoos. If Khadath got his around the same time they might have even got them done together. Seeing as both Kessel and Khadath are scholars (after a fashion) I imagine that this is the source of their past friendship .
Khadath dragon tattoo was imposed upon him by his master (he was a slave for a time) to mark him as a sorcerer (its what his master believe), the eagle was done in daggerford as another respresentation of strength and freedom as well as shed his old life (same as for his bald head). So its likely then that the pair went togehter, Kessel for his dragon tattoo, and Khadath for his eagle :)
I'm laughing to myself because i'm just writing little bits and pieces of his backround here, but i should start writing it out in word so that i can paste it into his profile.

Callum |

I was just wondering how we know when we should roll on Invisible Castle? For instance, when I'm DMing, I always roll Spot and Listen checks for my players, so they won't know whether there's really nothing to hear, or they just didn't roll high enough - this is why, in the play thread, I just quoted my modifiers. However, I've noticed other people rolling their own checks - is this the preferred approach? It doesn't really matter at the moment, of course, but it might later on...

Kayotic DM |

I rolled checks for you as you gave modifiers. If there's something important to be heard/spotted I'll most likely be asking people to roll their own checks, maybe making the odd DM check in secret, or if it's an easy DC I'll write up what can be seen/heard and put it behind the spoiler with a note saying what spot/listen roll is required to read the spoiler.
I'm fairly free and easy on this, if you want to run the way you usally do I'll roll your spot/listens for you or you can roll your own when your character is keeping an eye/ear out - whichever you're happiest with :)

Darie Billown |

Hmm, previous connections. Darie is probably not a household name in Daggerford. If anything, her family is known for its reclusive, almost hostile behavior. That said, its very possible that someone who has been in town for a while knows her face - and is probably quite surprised to find her on her own, without at least three other Billowns to keep her company.
They stay among themselves even on market day.

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This is a Charismatic party :)
Kessel and his twin sister Morra grew up in the Bronzewood Lodge (assuming it exists in the Realms) but Kessel and his sister were known to ramble around quite a bit. They've been into town on many occasions and have traveled through much of the outlying hills. I'm thinking it's very possible that Kessel knows many of the PCs that grew up in, or the area around, Daggerford. Kessel has been away for five years though so it's unlikely that he knows anyone arriving within that time . . . but they may know his twin sister Morra, or of the Bronzewood Lodge.
Couple of questions: what would the relationship between the paragon Gwynharwyf and the druidic faith be like? Are they related or are they essentially completely different pantheons?
When would Zereta have arrived in Daggerford?
Would Kells know Kessel or his twin sister Morra? I can understand him avoiding Kessel or his other childhood friends if he's trying to play the part of the foreign investor but it might speed things along once we get the game rolling.
Darie grew up in an isolated farmstead, how isolated are we talking here? Kessel and his sister have probably been all over the area surrounding the Daggerford. I'm wondering if their might have been a chance childhood encounter.
Tobin often visited Daggerford before moving there. Would you say he was a playful child? Perhaps he met up with and played with some human kids while he was in town? Maybe Kessel and Kells?

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Zereta has lived in Daggerford for most of her life so most likely she knows at least one or more of the other local characters.
Answered one of my questions before I even posted it ;)
When would Zereta have gotten her ink done? Kessel got his Tattoos when he was fifteen, just before he left for collage.

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Darie grew up in an isolated farmstead, how isolated are we talking here? Kessel and his sister have probably been all over the area surrounding the Daggerford. I'm wondering if their might have been a chance childhood encounter.
Purposefully reclusive - but not to the point of not having any contact with the other locals. Probably the Lodge knows most about the family (every family needs midwife now and then). They probably know as well that 1-2 members of every generation of the family become virtual prisoners on their farms, never seen again in the city (and for that matter, only seen in glimpses while outsiders are present on their holdings).
Another noteworthy thing is that the family actually owns the land they use. Its not much, but while they fall under Daggerfords jurisdiction, they have no obligations beyond normal taxes to the duke.
As for chance encounters, of course. We're talking "backwater weirdos" here, not "on another plane".

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Purposefully reclusive - but not to the point of not having any contact with the other locals. Probably the Lodge knows most about the family (every family needs midwife now and then). They probably know as well that 1-2 members of every generation of the family become virtual prisoners on their farms, never seen again in the city (and for that matter, only seen in glimpses while outsiders are present on their holdings).Another noteworthy thing is that the family actually owns the land they use. Its not much, but while they fall under Daggerfords jurisdiction, they have no obligations beyond normal taxes to the duke.
As for chance encounters, of course. We're talking "backwater weirdos" here, not "on another plane".
Great, so we'll assume Kessel and Darie once knew each other. That'll make things easier once the ball gets rolling :)

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Zereta Bludwulf of Ruathym wrote:Zereta has lived in Daggerford for most of her life so most likely she knows at least one or more of the other local characters.Answered one of my questions before I even posted it ;)
When would Zereta have gotten her ink done? Kessel got his Tattoos when he was fifteen, just before he left for collage.
She prolly got her ink after she had dreams of Gwynharwyf. so around about 5 years ago. Also Gwynharwyf is apart of the Court of Stars a group of fey from arborea not sure if that means they would be know by the druidic types Gwynharwyf is a patron of barbarians. I am cool with know kessel ahead of time

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She prolly got her ink after she had dreams of Gwynharwyf. so around about 5 years ago. Also Gwynharwyf is apart of the Court of Stars a group of fey from arborea not sure if that means they would be know by the druidic types Gwynharwyf is a patron of barbarians. I am cool with know kessel ahead of time
LOL, I guess this means half the party got their ink done around the same time!
Don't suppose any of the other PCs are sporting tattoos are they? ;)

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Lord Thasmudyan wrote:
She prolly got her ink after she had dreams of Gwynharwyf. so around about 5 years ago. Also Gwynharwyf is apart of the Court of Stars a group of fey from arborea not sure if that means they would be know by the druidic types Gwynharwyf is a patron of barbarians. I am cool with know kessel ahead of timeLOL, I guess this means half the party got their ink done around the same time!
Don't suppose any of the other PCs are sporting tattoos are they? ;)
we prolly got it at the same time :)

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Kells was born in Daggerford, but ran away almost a decade ago. His parents are both dead and he has so far been staying away from the locations he's likely to be recognized (as well as travelling under an assumed name). He spent most of his time in one of Smenk's mining camps, so he wasn't in town a whole lot.
BTW, sorry about the posting SNAFU last night where I posted as Gavgoyle and not as Kells. I was bone tired and didn't double check as well as I should have.
EDIT: I'm assuming that Kells doesn't know anyone in the group yet... he may look vaguely familiar to some locals, but that was a 12 year old boy covered with dirt, not a clean, very muscular man. Currently Kells sports no tattoos, but ink isn't out of the question in the future.

Kayotic DM |

Regarding spoiler-protected spot/listen checks: Do we need to use Invisible Castle for these, or can we use our handy local d20s?
Whichever way you prefer.
I prefer invisible castle, not that I don't trust you guys, I'm just trying to get into the habit of using the site in general. That said if for a few rolls you feel the need to use your lucky local d20 for spoilered spot/listens then go for it.
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Also, it's good to see you all working on how you know each other. There is actually a tattooist in Daggerford, so it sounds like a lot of you are clients of 'Derf's Skin Art'

Zereta Bludwulf of Ruathym |

TerraNova wrote:Regarding spoiler-protected spot/listen checks: Do we need to use Invisible Castle for these, or can we use our handy local d20s?
Whichever way you prefer.
I prefer invisible castle, not that I don't trust you guys, I'm just trying to get into the habit of using the site in general. That said if for a few rolls you feel the need to use your lucky local d20 for spoilered spot/listens then go for it.
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Also, it's good to see you all working on how you know each other. There is actually a tattooist in Daggerford, so it sounds like a lot of you are clients of 'Derf's Skin Art'
<----A repeat customer of Derf
bizzaro Fred = cool :P

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Also, it's good to see you all working on how you know each other. There is actually a tattooist in Daggerford, so it sounds like a lot of you are clients of 'Derf's Skin Art'
Derf? Oh no! I don't think Kessel would ever let a man named Derf anywhere near him with a needle! I think Kessel got his tattoos done amongst his people. I'm thinking that there's some druidic symbols intertwined with the images. Next level (when Kessel starts to remember some of his druidic training he should be able to read these symbols).
Derf = bizzaro Fred

Callum |

Tobin often visited Daggerford before moving there. Would you say he was a playful child? Perhaps he met up with and played with some human kids while he was in town? Maybe Kessel and Kells?
Yes, I'd say that's pretty likely - Tobin was always keen to join in (or instigate) games with anyone he'd run across.
I've been assuming that Tobin knows all the local characters by sight, if not by name, and has probably spoken to them before. However, I don't think he'll have seen through Kells' subterfuge, necessarily...

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I just realized something: Darie is 17, while Kessel is 21. So while they can have met, the age difference probably had hin see a nice kid instead of a peer in her - especially since he probably was in Waterdeep for his Bard School in his early twenties.
Maybe she fell sick (rare for her, but it happens), and he assisted when a healer was finally summoned? Or during an unrelated visit, he got to know her, maybe appalled that her family didn't even teach her her "letters"?

Lorderl |

I caught up on the reading here, i also like it that many of us have some familiarity with one another.
Since Darie worships Lathander, there is a good chance that she/her family frequented the church in Daggerford on those occasions they went into town? This would allow Darie to know Khadath as well.
Looks like Tobin and Kessel might have met/seen everyone at one point or another
Also there’s a good chance Zereta and Khadath have seen each other in town, also another that was getting a tattoo on the same day, haha :)
I’ll get a post up shortly…
Oh, decided to keep my options for PRC open, I’ll fulfill requirement regardless for the ones I’m interested in, Radiant Servant of Lathander and Morninglord of Lathander.
Would we be allowed to take 2 PRC’s?
I could do something like Cleric 6/ Radiant Servant of Lathander 5/ Morninglord of Lathander 9 in that order. Has a nice hierarchy look to it that way :)
Levels 1-6: Cleric
Levels 7-11: Radiant Servant of Lathander
Levels 12-20: Morninglord of Lathander

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I've cobbled together a one-piece map of Daggerford (from the free pdf of The North that Kayos provided a link to in the first post) - you can find it here, if you're interested.
Callum! You are made of awesome! Is it alright if I share this with my group 2?

Lorderl |

From Game Post
Darie nodded. "Sure, hopefully the day will earn me a bit of coin, so an ale or two is something i won't say no to." The idea was good, catching up on old times (as slim as they might be) was better than having next to no one to turn to. "I just hope this Auric Tallstag won't take it personally, he invited me as well." Somehow, the admission felt a little bit... "off" to her.
I’d like to do a check for Auric Tallstag, which I'll then pass on to Darie if needed, I’ll (Take 10 +4 = 14, Knowledge Local), or (Take 10 +7 = 17, Knowledge Nobility and Royalty), which ever applies. If nothing comes of that here’s a Lore Check=11
Hehe, guess the Lore Check won’t help :)

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I've cobbled together a one-piece map of Daggerford (from the free pdf of The North that Kayos provided a link to in the first post) - you can find it here, if you're interested.
Nice work Callum

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I’d like to do a check for Auric Tallstag, which I'll then pass on to Darie if needed, I’ll (Take 10 +4 = 14, Knowledge Local), or (Take 10 +7 = 17, Knowledge Nobility and Royalty), which ever applies. If nothing comes of that here’s a Lore Check=11
Hehe, guess the Lore Check won’t help :)
With those checks you vaguely recognise the name Auric Tallstag as champion of the Champion's Games held each year on the Field of Triumph in Waterdeep.

Kayotic DM |

Nothing untoward will happen, I'm more than happy for Darie to find a small job to occupy her until everyone meets up later - I plan to lay off plot until you're all resolved with all of your getting to know one another stuff :)
So yes, once the sparring is done and you're all at the Cow I'll be throwing NPCs and things at you again ;)

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i'm thinking if Gavgoyle wants, Khadath and Kells will already be at a table discussing things, as Khadath would have arrived early so he and Kells can finish any topics that they may have started earlier?
what'cha think?
Kessel is always late for most things. As he's the youngest of the twins he sometimes jokes that he was even late for his own birth. This isn't a result of absentmindedness or anything as you can see by my post, he sometime genuinely tries to be late. Anyone who's known him for any length of time would know this and certainly be expecting it. It should be noted that the one thing Kessel despises about city life is the incessant need to be on time for everything.

Lorderl |

by chance, is the Church of Lathander doing anything about whats been happening in the town, maybe appoint someone, either an npc, or charged Khadath to see what more he can learn?
also anything interesting happening within the church since the Duke and his family are supposed to have close ties with the church?

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by chance, is the Church of Lathander doing anything about whats been happening in the town, maybe appoint someone, either an npc, or charged Khadath to see what more he can learn?
also anything interesting happening within the church since the Duke and his family are supposed to have close ties with the church?
Sounds good, I'll amend my last post slightly to get us in the Cow.

Lorderl |

I quite enjoyed that dialog (couldn't resist throwing a bit of LOTR in there)
Now to see what Kayos can throw our way in the form of support from the Church of Lathander. I'm not talking magic items, unless she prefers to throw a trinket or two our way :), but some extra background info, maybe other basic supply or the funds from which to purchase them would be helpful. Of course this is just one plot, so there may be other stuff she plans to throw at us first.
Kells wouldn't mind a +5 holy blade would he? I'll ask if there's one in storage he can use, haha! :)