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At various points in the Demonomicon series, a correlation between certain demons with certain sins was established. Looking through them, we have the following:
Sloth- Alkilith
Gluttony- Nabassu
Lust- Succubus
Wrath- Vrock
Envy- Glabrezu
Did the writers have any particular demons in mind for the missing Greed and Pride? Furthermore, beyond Malcanthet and Kostchtchie, does anyone have any decent ideas for Demon Lords connected with the sins?
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I'd break down demon types like this:
Sloth: Alkilith
Gluttony: Nabassu
Lust: Succubus
Wrath: Vrock
Envy: Glabrezu
Pride: Nalfeshnee
Greed: Marilith
Note that all of these demons are tanar'ri; obyrith and loumara and other non-raced demons aren't really "evolved" from mortal souls, so they don't really get in on the sin action. And even then... they're not perfect assignments. Greed, in particular, seems a little sketchy, but since Mariliths seem to me of the tanar'ri to be the ones who covet the most jewelry and powerful weapons... greed works for them.
As for the demon lords most associated with these sins...
Sloth: Luperico
Gluttony: Juiblex
Lust: Malcanthet
Wrath: Kostchtchie
Envy: Lynkhab
Pride: Graz'zt
Greed: Volisupula
Again... note that they're all tanar'ri demon lords. A couple of whom are relatively obscure. And I'm not sure about Lynkhab representing Envy... but it'll do for now.
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Wouldn't Orcus better typify gluttony? If the alkalith is sloth, wouldn't Juiblex best represent sloth as well?
Who the hell (I mean abyss) is Luperico?
Luperico is the demon lord of sloth and darkness. I believe he was first introduced into the game in Planescape's "Faces of Evil: The Fiends."
And Orcus already has PLENTY of hooks and history. Frankly, of all the demon lords, I think he's the one who's the most "played out." Overused, even. If I were still doing the Demonomicon articles... I'd play up the gluttony aspect of Juiblex quite a lot. He is, after all, basically a giant amoeba that lives to eat and eats to live. And unlike Orcus, Juiblex DOES need some more something going for him.
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You know, now that the halcyon days of the Demonomicon are done for Paizo and given that y'all have forged ties with Necromancer Games....what about a sort of fiendish who's who of Golarion?
That will probably be showing up somewhere sooner than later, as it works out...
Drow DO worship demon lords.
There ARE a fair amount of devils interested in Korvosa.
And we HAVE figured out a cool role for daemons.
Stay tuned!
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Actually, if I were to tie Orcus to one of the sins (which I probably will), it'd be to sloth. He obviously doesn't exemplify it as well as Lupercio (even if by default), but the appearance fits, and the creation of undead, to me, has always niched rather nicely with sloth. Just an idea.
Oh, and thank you very much for your response, James. It's an immense help.
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Actually, if I were to tie Orcus to one of the sins (which I probably will), it'd be to sloth. He obviously doesn't exemplify it as well as Lupercio (even if by default), but the appearance fits, and the creation of undead, to me, has always niched rather nicely with sloth. Just an idea.
Oh, and thank you very much for your response, James. It's an immense help.
Although Orcus certainly fits the Sloth appearance (assuming you talk about old-school Orcus and not new-school Book of Vile Darkness Orcus)... the fact that he's been the big bad end guy of more plots and adventures in published modules would say otherwise to me. He's all over the place! :-)
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As for the demon lords most associated with these sins...
Sloth: Luperico
Gluttony: Juiblex
Lust: Malcanthet
Wrath: Kostchtchie
Envy: Lynkhab
Pride: Graz'zt
Greed: VolisupulaAgain... note that they're all tanar'ri demon lords. A couple of whom are relatively obscure. And I'm not sure about Lynkhab representing Envy... but it'll do for now.
Hey James, I'm just curious but wouldn't Turaglas the Ebon Maw work better for Gluttony? You are the true Sage of Demons, but I'm a total fan boy for the Ebon Maw, and just want to see him get some love! =D
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I've got a small question about the Wendigo. In the morale section in the adventure text, it mentions that it assumes snow form and flees. However, in the creature stat block and description, I'm not seeing an ability to turn into snow. I'm assuming that this is a minor variation on the standard wind walk power, which for the Wendigo manifests as turning into a cloud of swirling snow instead of a cloud of vapor.
Yeah... originally the wendigo had a complicated snow-form ability, but I realized that it was pretty much the exact same thing as wind walk. Plus... in some stories, the wendigo is CALLED the Wind Walker, or the Walker on the Wind. Switching his snow-form ability over to wind walk made sense as a result for lots of reasons, but we forgot to change the name back in the tactics.
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I'd break down demon types like this:
Sloth: Alkilith
Gluttony: Nabassu
Lust: Succubus
Wrath: Vrock
Envy: Glabrezu
Pride: Nalfeshnee
Greed: MarilithNote that all of these demons are tanar'ri; obyrith and loumara and other non-raced demons aren't really "evolved" from mortal souls, so they don't really get in on the sin action. And even then... they're not perfect assignments. Greed, in particular, seems a little sketchy, but since Mariliths seem to me of the tanar'ri to be the ones who covet the most jewelry and powerful weapons... greed works for them.
As for the demon lords most associated with these sins...
Sloth: Luperico
Gluttony: Juiblex
Lust: Malcanthet
Wrath: Kostchtchie
Envy: Lynkhab
Pride: Graz'zt
Greed: VolisupulaAgain... note that they're all tanar'ri demon lords. A couple of whom are relatively obscure. And I'm not sure about Lynkhab representing Envy... but it'll do for now.
Thanks for this listing, it's really a big help. I was thinking of someday making up a demonic cult/organization called 'The Seven-Fingered Hand' or the like, with the members all representing the different deadly sins. Though it's hard to see half-a-dozen demon lords agreeing on much of anything beyond "we hate each other".
By the way, just who is Volisupula? I remember the name (vaguely) from FC1, but I forget just what their title/area of interest is.