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So I was reading the latest interview regarding the Races and Classes book WotC is putting out and this caught my eye:
As for half-orcs, we’re still discussing them. But the race intrinsically makes me uncomfortable due to its implied origins, and until that’s solved, I’m just as happy to see them left out for now.Now I have to assume that the "implied origin" that makes Michelle "uncomfortable" is that half-orcs would be the product of rape of a human woman by an orc. I can fully understand how this might be a problem for some folks.
What I don't get is that WotC is substituting this for a race (tieflings) whose origin comes from pacts with lower planar powers. How is that any better than a race that would be the product of rape? What kind of message do they want to send to the parents of their hoped-for new customers?
Anyway, this struck me as odd.
It doesn't have to be anything more than an implied origin, if that's what upsets Michelle. Or it could be that Thokk the orc swashbuckler came along and saved the human girl, who fell in love with him, and now I'm playing their half-orc love-child. Or maybe one of the players is running a half-orc who was the unfortunate by-product of a brothel, out to find its place in the world?
To take it out of the books and replace it with a race that is the end result of dealings with lower-planar creatures is kinda silly.
Then again, so is expecting me to pay $20 for this crap. Should've made it a free PDF or something.
"Less about" rather than "not about." As in sexual attraction plays a part, but is not the primary motivation. Also, I specified "Criminal Psychology," as in the academic subject, not the sensationalists who equate female nudity in movies with rape.Just because most people believe something, doesn't mean it's true. Read the crime statistics, then explain why they don't jibe with the prevailing "wisdom" of Andrea Dworkin & company.Go read some Criminal Psychology articles/textbooks.Rape is psychologically less about sexual attraction than about domination, after all.Which is why so many victims of sexual assault are frail old ladies, rather than females between 13 & 39.
I wasn't talking about nudity. Look, if power was the primary motivation, the perpetrator would choose targets based on ease of domination (ie, children & the elderly), rather than prepubescent females of childbearing age. Furthermore, the perp would simply assault the victim & leave it at that. In addition, few rapists, when asked what motivated them, will say "I had to prove how powerful I was"--usually, it's along the lines of "I was attracted to her, & had to have her." Power is usually a means to an end, rather than a motive.
Remember that there are different kinds of rapists people. But lets assume we are talking about repeat rapists who make a campaign out of their crime.
Furthermore, the perp would simply assault the victim & leave it at that. In addition, few rapists, when asked what motivated them, will say "I had to prove how powerful I was"--usually, it's along the lines of "I was attracted to her, & had to have her." Power is usually a means to an end, rather than a motive.
That bolded part is simply not true when you are talking about such deviance. Also, sex and attraction may still be part of the act, which would explain why they would choose desirable women. Also, simply beating someone up may not be enough to satisfy their desire to be in a position of power, they may choose methods other than assault such as murder or, as we are discussing, rape.
And people DO rape old women and childen.
For those rapists who are part of the normal non-deviant society, I think it is fair to say that rape is a combination of sex drive, an inability to control themselves, and a need to satisfy a general power deficit.
If you really want to know something about this I suggest you go to a campus bookstore and pick up a textbook on deviant psychology, or check out any of the hundred textbooks available on this vile subject.
I just heard on a radio news program yesterday a man raped a dead horse.
Sniff.
Many times.
My bad it was a deer.
20-year-old Bryan James Hathaway of Superior, Wisconsin allegedly had sex with the deer corpse after he found it on the roadside on October 11 this year.The sickness of some people...
I have to agree with Dragonchess Player, huge amounts of fuc-ked up rapist have said it had nothing to do with attraction, but power, domination, and other mental/emotional hang-ups/problems/defect (what ever you want to call what ever lead them to choose what they did) ei. she was the mother that never loved me.
I've read several criminal psychology textbooks in my toss up to decide on a career/degree while in college.
All those horrible people have some reason why they did those thing, and usually it's not just because he/she was attractive.
Fizz"Huge amounts," eh? What's your primary source for this figure? Court transcipts? Police reports?
The whole "rape as power" hypothesis coincided with the rise of neofeminism in academia, but like the similarly promoted "ancient goddess-centered matriarchy," has little hard evidence to back it up.
Remember that there are different kinds of rapists people. But lets assume we are talking about repeat rapists who make a campaign out of their crime.
Furthermore, the perp would simply assault the victim & leave it at that. In addition, few rapists, when asked what motivated them, will say "I had to prove how powerful I was"--usually, it's along the lines of "I was attracted to her, & had to have her." Power is usually a means to an end, rather than a motive.That bolded part is simply not true when you are talking about such deviance. Also, sex and attraction may still be part of the act, which would explain why they would choose desirable women. Also, simply beating someone up may not be enough to satisfy their desire to be in a position of power, they may choose methods other than assault such as murder or, as we are discussing, rape.
Then why not skip the rape part & just kill them? If power is the primary motivation, as you seem to believe, what better way for the perp to show how powerful he is?
And people DO rape old women and childen.
Never said they didn't. It's just that most rape victims are females of childbearing age--which has led to evolutionary psychologists to theorize that there may be an underlying reproductive motivation as well.
If you really want to know something about this I suggest you go to a campus bookstore and pick up a textbook on deviant psychology, or check out any of the hundred textbooks available on this vile subject.
I'd suggest picking up Thornhill & Palmer's A Natural History of Rape & Violence, Aggression, and Coercive Actions by Felson & Tedeschi.
With respect, I think the conversation is getting a bit beyond appropriate limits for many people here.
Can we please keep more on-topic?
Regards all :)
Good, evil, law, chaos.
I thought they were getting rid of those?