Nicolas Logue Contributor |
Hey, Nick.
Are you looking to offer this to a publisher, or are you following Wolfgang's Open Design module, and offering a PDF directly to GM's?
As long as it has game stats for the Amazing Engine / Masterbook / Transhuman Space / Serenity hybrid I run, we're good.
Or, I guess, OGL would be ... okay, too.
Got a publisher all lined up! Looks like this puppy will be available for multiple systems too! Rock!
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Raymond Rich |
Please, please, please have this be more than just a self-contained little ditty. I'd love to see a good gritty sci-fi adventure that I could springboard a campaign out of. There is a severe lack of that sort of thing on the market. Too many sci-fi adventures are Star Trek first contact style scenarios ("Those were some weird aliens, eh? Back to the ship with our macguffin, then. See y'all next week!").
I want something that'll leave a group that's lukewarm on trying something outside their D&D comfort zone saying "When are we going to play Starships & Saurians again?"
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
hopeless |
I'm really curious to know how many people are interested in Science Fiction/Space Adventure Modules. I'm writing one right now and I want to know how many people are interested in picking it up.
What do you say: Dark Space Adventure written by Nicolas Logue
Anybody want one?
Thanks in advance for your responses!
Yes but what system would it use or rather would it be useable by ANY system sort of like those two traveller supplements that were merely showing where the traveller universe would have gone had Emperor Strephon been supposedly assassinated?
Snorter |
I've thought that this approach would be good for a lot of publishers; produce material for the D20/OGL modern/future/cyber/historical/alternate settings (or other systems entirely, which normally get overlooked) during the 2007/2008 4E confusion period. You still get product out the door, and it doesn't get invalidated or contradicted by a change of edition.
In fact, have WOTC proposed any update of the d20Modern ruleset? Or will this continue to be the current edition? If so, all the hoo-hah over 3.75 (or 3.Paizo, or whatever) could all be bypassed by simply putting out a 'fantasy' supplement to the d20Modern brand, no?
You can also make non-rule-specific product (floorplans, item cards, etc) but there must be a limit to the number of items you can create, and the market will stand.
DitheringFool |
cthughua wrote:Color me interested. I love dark sci-fi. I'm always looking for non-fantasy stuff to convert to True20. :)It may very well come out in a True 20 edition for ya as well. :-)
True20 might work...
Hey rclifton, what do you think of a True20 space opera?
Taliesin Hoyle |
I seriously don't get why anybody would use the d20 system level based legacy crunch for science fiction, rather than using a skill based dice pool product. Apart from familiarity of course. I tolerate hit points and levels as a necessary evil so I can play with D&D's awesome monsters and toys. If I had a choice of sci-fi systems, I would probably never pick a level based one.
Grimcleaver |
I seriously don't get why anybody would use the d20 system level based legacy crunch for science fiction, rather than using a skill based dice pool product.
Not to go too far astray from the topic, but my preference for d20 comes from three sources: the flavor that comes from distinct character classes, the slower and more realistic gain in skill growth over games where XP is spent for stat increases, and the grittier more grounded feel of the dice rolling.
Character classes carry a lot of flavor with them. Someone being a Space Monkey or a Helix Warrior or a Xenophile adds a load of detail where a bunch of points spread freeform around a charactersheet really doesn't. That, and the special abilities really are a nice touch that make my character feel different and simultaneously part of something bigger than just him. There's espirit de Helix Warrior as it were.
Likewise skill based games where XP is spent on stats and skills rather than raising levels create insane amounts of skill bloat. Within a handful of sessions, characters wind up going from single dots in skills to mastery--in what days? weeks? Take the amount of XP the characters make in that period, extrapolate that over the years and years that the NPCs in the setting have been doing the same and you have a real power bloat problem. It makes epic gaming with levels, and the 20th level ex-adventurer bartender in every town, look sane by comparison.
Lastly there's the feel of the dice-rolling. The d20 system tends to have a much more luck-based gritty feel. In games where you're rolling a big fistful of dice there's a safety net. Something good will probably roll up on at least some of those dice. With a d20 it's as likely to be a one as it is a 20. That makes characters sweat the big important rolls. It adds to grit. That can make for great horror sci-fi gaming.
So yeah, that's why I'd pick a d20 class and level system for something like this.
As for hating level based hitpoints, yeah I hate 'em too. Mostly I just give people their one starting hit die and that's it for them, unless they buy Toughness or raise their Con mod. If that's too psychotic for you there's other ways to bring down HP bloat instead. I just like to make them sweat.
Crimson Jester |
As for hating level based hitpoints, yeah I hate 'em too. Mostly I just give people their one starting hit die and that's it for them, unless they buy Toughness or raise their Con mod. If that's too psychotic for you there's other ways to bring down HP bloat instead. I just like to make them sweat.
I think it is a bit of a stretchto just let the PC's have Hit Points at 1st level, Though I also like the grittier feel for my games. That being said the way I do it is to give each PC the option to purchase Hit points at each level. I stole the idea from rolemaster, yeah I know. i give them 8 hits at first level and any fighter type can purchase Hit points as a class skill all others have them as a cross class skill and then I give each PC a few extra skill points to purchase these HP. every class is a D8 and cetian classes get a bonus to thier rolls such as Barbarians get a +2.
FenrysStar |
I'd pick it up. I am starting to go more for True20 these days, but if it's written for D20 Future or something similar it should be easy enough to convert. I like both fantasy and sci-fi. In fact Science Fantasy is probably what I like best. It's the main reason I think SpellJammer is so wonderful as well as its evolved form in Dragonstar.
DM Jeff |
Here's the thing. I think this is sorely needed. I don't know about many, I can whip up a fantasy adventure (or improvise one) without too much difficulty at all. But for some reason have a much harder time with sci-fi. The few times my group has played d20 Future/Modern we've had a complete blast. But the game isn't sustained simply because I don't have a stable of good adventures to weave together.
The thing is, I am not trusting when it comes to 'new generic publishing company B' and I am NOT a fan of PDF only, which seems to be where the only support for this is these days. On the other hand, with your name attached to it, Nik, I'm a buyer.
-DM Jeff
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
Here's the thing. I think this is sorely needed. I don't know about many, I can whip up a fantasy adventure (or improvise one) without too much difficulty at all. But for some reason have a much harder time with sci-fi. The few times my group has played d20 Future/Modern we've had a complete blast. But the game isn't sustained simply because I don't have a stable of good adventures to weave together.
The thing is, I am not trusting when it comes to 'new generic publishing company B' and I am NOT a fan of PDF only, which seems to be where the only support for this is these days. On the other hand, with your name attached to it, Nik, I'm a buyer.
-DM Jeff
Thanks for the awesome vote of confidence Jeff! I shall not let you down my man!
Wasteland Knight |
Mr. Logue,
After reading Hook Mountain Massacre, my thoughts are this: any adventure, be it fantasy, sci-fi, or something in between that's written by Nicolas Logue I *want* a copy. Hell, if there was a Care Bears d20 RPG and you wrote an adventure for it, I'd want a copy.
So yes, please. More modules. Sooner the better.
etrigan |
If the adventure got the grim and gritty feel of your previous work I will buy it anytime... And probably try to convert It to the Dark Heresy RPG (Warhammer 40K) or to True20...
On a side note, as we all known you are a great fan of Marvel Super-Heroes, have you ever think of writing a few adventures for Mutants and Masterminds or Champions?
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
Mr. Logue,
After reading Hook Mountain Massacre, my thoughts are this: any adventure, be it fantasy, sci-fi, or something in between that's written by Nicolas Logue I *want* a copy. Hell, if there was a Care Bears d20 RPG and you wrote an adventure for it, I'd want a copy.
So yes, please. More modules. Sooner the better.
Wow! Thanks! There will be MANY MANY Logue modules coming out this year...never fear!
I've been a very busy bee, and a lot of SECRET THANGS are in the works right now. Wish I could share more, but all will be revealed soon!
Oh, and if you are interested, you may want to check out the Open Design I am writing with Wolfgang Baur right now (two great tastes that taste great together)!
Linkie: BLOOD OF THE GORGON
You get to be a part of the process...so it's wicked fun!
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
If the adventure got the grim and gritty feel of your previous work I will buy it anytime... And probably try to convert It to the Dark Heresy RPG (Warhammer 40K) or to True20...
On a side note, as we all known you are a great fan of Marvel Super-Heroes, have you ever think of writing a few adventures for Mutants and Masterminds or Champions?
I LOVE MARVEL! I CAN'T BETRAY HER!!! ;-)
I would write a module for M and M! That game rocks too! Not as much as Ye Old MARVEL, but nothing really can! ;-)
I'll talk to Green Ronin. Those guys are amazing!
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
Nicolas Logue wrote:Are you going to be using the d20 CoC sanity rules? :-)
The adventure I'm writing is very dark. Not as sick-f%*! as HMM, but very dark and with lot edge to it. It's gritty. Star Trek happy-nice it ain't.
Ha! Nope! But there are some pretty interesting house rules on terror and interacting with ungodly alien races.
Wasteland Knight |
Wow! Thanks! There will be MANY MANY Logue modules coming out this year...never fear!
Awesome! Blood of the Gorgon sounds very interesting. I believe I may have turn my couch upside down and see how much $$$ falls out...perhaps break a piggy bank (or three).
But the most important question of all....will one of the MANY MANY Logue modules be Care Bears d20? ;-)
DitheringFool |
SouthEast Jones wrote:Ha! Nope! But there are some pretty interesting house rules on terror and interacting with ungodly alien races.Nicolas Logue wrote:Are you going to be using the d20 CoC sanity rules? :-)
The adventure I'm writing is very dark. Not as sick-f%*! as HMM, but very dark and with lot edge to it. It's gritty. Star Trek happy-nice it ain't.
The only thing I need to know is WHEN?
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But the most important question of all....will one of the MANY MANY Logue modules be Care Bears d20? ;-)
Oh please please please!!! Then I could start to teach my 2 year old daughter RPing, as she absolutely adores Care Bears!
EDIT: Although maybe I should be asking myself "Do I really want my 2 year old daughter to be subjected to the Infamous Mr Logue, no matter how good he is?" ;)
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
Nicolas Logue wrote:The only thing I need to know is WHEN?SouthEast Jones wrote:Ha! Nope! But there are some pretty interesting house rules on terror and interacting with ungodly alien races.Nicolas Logue wrote:Are you going to be using the d20 CoC sanity rules? :-)
The adventure I'm writing is very dark. Not as sick-f%*! as HMM, but very dark and with lot edge to it. It's gritty. Star Trek happy-nice it ain't.
It will be available for Gencon. Oh yes it shall.
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
Kirwyn |
You are very welcome. I really enjoy reading and running your adventures. They are well crafted and so much more "American" than some four letter foreigners I could mention.
Right now I am modifying The Obsidian Eye (Dun #120) to fit in a forested world in faint hopes I will get to run a game tonight. Mahlmet, Ahln Veer and the Harbinger will hopefully get to slap some PC's around this evening.
Nicolas Logue Contributor |
You are very welcome. I really enjoy reading and running your adventures. They are well crafted and so much more "American" than some four letter foreigners I could mention.
Right now I am modifying The Obsidian Eye (Dun #120) to fit in a forested world in faint hopes I will get to run a game tonight. Mahlmet, Ahln Veer and the Harbinger will hopefully get to slap some PC's around this evening.
Awwwwwww yeah! Slap one for me Kirwyn!
Nick
P.S. "Four Lettered Foreigner" is now my very most favorite means of referring to my arch nemesis! Thanks for that Kirwyn!