Moral Code in Pathfinder World


Rise of the Runelords

Liberty's Edge

Hello,

I am somewhat intriqued that if the Runelords used sin magic in their lost empire of Thassilion it means that "Sin" as an idea exists and that the power of sin is harnessed by these Runelords.

Is there an oposite group of folks that harnass the power of "Virtue" to combat these Runelords.

Also what is the Moral Code by which Sin and Virtue are considered and established.

Are we talking the 10 Commandments here?

Just a few questions? Maybe they are aswered in #1 because I have not finished reading it all the way through yet.

Our group happens to consist of people from the Church I go to and I am sure they will want the answers to this.

Sovereign Court

Short answer.

Spoiler:
11,000 years ago First King Xin was a visionary whose providence was shaped by a philosophy known as the Seven Virtues of Rule: wealth, fertility, honest pride, abundance, eager striving, righteous anger and rest. These were born from the teachings of the goddess Lisalla who (along with dragons and other celestial beings) gave Xin the means to express his power through writing known as rune magic. It bound his empire, Thassilon, together.

But as the empire grew so did his need for governors to manage the various domains. These governors were the Runelords. After Xin's death the Runelords grew decadent and in their hunger for power they corrupted the Virtues of Rule into a darker, more immediate magic. This is sin magic.

So, a god gave it to a king, a king gave it to his servants and the servants turned it on its ear. The god and the king are dead, but the servants are stewing in torpor, waiting for their encore

If it is “The 10 commandments” of Varisia, it was given to a Confucian wizard by a goddess of bureaucracy rather than a Hebrew cleric by a god of salvation.

Liberty's Edge

I think I will use one of these lists of Seven Virtues to oppose the Seven deadliest sins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_virtues

I would be interested in wheather there are ways of harnessing this Virtue magic in opposition to the Sin Magic harnessed through Runewells.


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According to the Anniversary edition for RotR, there is literally no difference between Sin Magic and Virtue Magic. Both are just fancy names for the seven schools of magic that the Thassilonians practiced, and it's ultimately a matter of semantics (and differing acts for scoring points) - a character who has high Charity receives the same benefits for Abjuration-based Thassilonian magic effects as someone who has high Envy, since these are the opposing sins and virtues.

The Sin of Envy and the Virtue of Charity both correlate to the school of Abjuration.

The Sin of Gluttony and the Virtue of Temperance both correlate to the school of Necromancy.

The Sin of Greed and the Virtue of Generosity both correlate to the school of Transmutation.

The Sin of Lust and the Virtue of Love both correlate to the school of Enchantment.

The Sin of Pride and the Virtue of Humility both correlate to the school of Illusion.

The Sin of Sloth and the Virtue of Zeal both correlate to the school of Conjuration.

The Sin of Wrath and the Virtue of Kindness both correlate to the school of Evocation.

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