prefer shorter pointy ears, still long enough to be seen poking out from the hair, but short enough not to get caught on stuff when theya re waling through the woods.
I think the ones shown in the PHB at the races section are already quite long. More than that should really not be.
This seems okay for me: http://dndonline.gameamp.com/modules/dnd/images/icon_elf.jpg
Blue if your elves are meant to look smu4fy.
Hey, I have blue elves in my games. But theyre evil, not smu4fy!
Blue if your elves are meant to look smu4fy.Hey, I have blue elves in my games. But theyre evil, not smu4fy!
You must know Antimon, a guy that used to play in our groups and also run some awesome campaigns. He had blue-skinned, psionically gifted, and usually quite evil elves, too.
You must know Antimon, a guy that used to play in our groups and also run some awesome campaigns. He had blue-skinned, psionically gifted, and usually quite evil elves, too.Blue if your elves are meant to look smu4fy.Hey, I have blue elves in my games. But theyre evil, not smu4fy!
Hey, I'd like to hear about those elves...did he put anything up online?
Hey, I'd like to hear about those elves...did he put anything up online?
No, I think not.
I can only go from memory here (it's been years - it was the first campaign in that group - and our first 3e campaign ever. Good times!)
They were blue-skinned, very good at psionics. I think they may have had some telepathic connection with each other. They sure did the finishing-each-others-sentences-to-freak-out-strangers thing.
They were appearing in Faerûn (again) during our campaign, having been more or less exiled in Carceri for quite some time.
There were 5 hourse/tribes/clans, and some of them were evil, some were not. It all pretty much tied into their "patron deity":
I can't remember its name, but it used to be an elven deity 18,000 years ago, before it was exiled to Carceri. When it was sent there, it managed to take the blue elves (I think they also had another name, but I can't remember) with it into exile, and over the millenia, the race - or at least most of its houses, was twisted by their patron deity and started to see the other elves and their gods as the enemies (not the guy who exiled them here for company).
So they returned, and 3 or 4 of the 5 houses attempted to return the favour, getting the elven gods, and the elves themselves, exiled in the Red Prison.
I'm a fan of Lodoss ears too. They're long, thin, and nothing floppy about them.
The original 13 episodes of Record of Lodoss War should be required viewing for D&D fans.
I'll have to go with Urza on this one.. Lodoss all the way for elves. (But then again my wife and I both are huge lodoss fans..) But I like the elves having longer ears and the classis shorter style being for the half-elves.
Not that it really matters... any DM can just declare how the elf race looks in their game...
Shorter ears all the way.
I'm so sick of the WoW/anime/manga ears, it's not even funny.
WoW/anime/manga ears, 4e, strictly miniatures reliant, powergaming, min-maxing, rules lawyers.... how are we even calling this game Dungeons & Dragons anymore.
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WoW/anime/manga ears, 4e, strictly miniatures reliant, powergaming, min-maxing, rules lawyers.... how are we even calling this game Dungeons & Dragons anymore.
You know what's funny, those "anime" ears you hate so much, they come from Record of Lodoss War.
Record of Lodoss War's story is BASED off the creator's D&D campaign.
*snickers*
I was saving that for just the right moment!
You know what's funny, those "anime" ears you hate so much, they come from Record of Lodoss War.
Record of Lodoss War's story is BASED off the creator's D&D campaign.
Yeah. In fact, subtract the animism (not anime-ism) present in magic (and maybe the berserker's curse), and the stuff feels like something right out the core rules, and you wouldn't be surprised if they peeled the stickers off place names and stuff like "Andoran", or, for that matter "Albion" would appear beneath.
And, for the record: D&D has always been the powergamers' and min-maxers' primary home. Many other games just don't have them to that extent. I guess it's because in, say, Vampire, the guys who do stuff like that won't get any absinthe, and then they stop playing to sit in the corner and play with their favourite razor ;-).
The gigantism of Elfquesty ears is not my thing. Very highly stylized without taking into account that such ears should subtract a few points from armor class unless the elf wore a plate helmet that covered those puppies up. Such armor would look like a tinfoil triceratops head.
Also, when I see ears that big I want to point and say, "Those... Those ears!" and then laugh uncontrollably and discourteously just as everyone did at poor Baby New Year.
Who's Hotter: Leetah or Nightfall?
The one who can listen to me talk and convincingly pretend I'm fascinating.
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I prefer both types of ears. Why not? Elves do not have to be limited to only one look, any more than humans are.
In fact I have been shooting a sexy elves calendar where the length of ears depend upon where the elf lives. Warm climate elves have longer ears (summer months) and arctic elves have shorter ears (winter months).
You can have high elves with long ears and wood elves with shorter ones, whatever you want. The more variety the better!
Barbara Walters?Who's Hotter: Leetah or Nightfall?The one who can listen to me talk and convincingly pretend I'm fascinating.
Well... no...
She was quite rough with me in the sack. I wept.
Barbara Walters?Who's Hotter: Leetah or Nightfall?The one who can listen to me talk and convincingly pretend I'm fascinating.Well... no...
She was quite rough with me in the sack. I wept.
I would have thought Mike Wallace would have been rougher on you...
i am growing to prefer the long ears.
The real question is who's hotter..Deedlet or Pirotess.
The answer is Yes!
Lodoss look like NighElf ears to me.
Long is good, but that's a little too long for my tastes. It looks like they can impale someone on those.
I would have thought Mike Wallace would have been rougher on you...Barbara Walters?Who's Hotter: Leetah or Nightfall?The one who can listen to me talk and convincingly pretend I'm fascinating.Well... no...
She was quite rough with me in the sack. I wept.
Actually Wallace speant 60 minutes on the receiving end of some rather viscious punishment on our special night together. He took it like a trooper though. Bit a hole through his lip, but no crying. I'll always respect him for that.
::rolls a Ramada Inn matchbook in his hands in warm remembrance.::
Hehe it wasn't a yes or no question. :PThe answer is Yes!
The real question is who's hotter..Deedlet or Pirotess.
I don't care.
This matter can be resolved in one way and one way only: Mud Wrestling.
I would have thought Mike Wallace would have been rougher on you...Barbara Walters?Who's Hotter: Leetah or Nightfall?The one who can listen to me talk and convincingly pretend I'm fascinating.Well... no...
She was quite rough with me in the sack. I wept.
Actually Wallace speant 60 minutes on the receiving end of some rather viscious punishment on our special night together. He took it like a trooper though. Bit a hole through his lip, but no crying. I'll always respect him for that.
::rolls a Ramada Inn matchbook in his hands in warm remembrance.::
::weeping with fear::
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Actually the long-eared elf was a mainstay for Ars Magica which hearkened to the medieval image of faerie. I'd say it's a very appropriate feature for a more woodsy elf as opposed to say the High Elves of Tolkien vintage.
The 1977 cartoon version of The Hobbit shows the high elves like Elrond had long pointed ears that almost reached the top of the head while the wood elves had ears that were longer and did go over the top of the head.
The ears are one part of the body that continue to grow throughout a person's lifetime. In humans, this results in longer, thicker lobes and bigger ears. With elves, ours becomes longer and the point more pronounced. As such, very young elves can more easily be mistaken for fine-boned, really-pretty humans.
BTW, ask me about where half-elves come from or the elven "starting age" sometime. It's the same explanation either way.
Speaking of which, hands off Deedlit! Once she's gotten thru this brief "human phase" she's going thru (i.e. when Parn reaches his human fate), she's mine! In the mean time, I think Pirotess needs some consoling... |\~_^/|
(For the record, jello wrestling > mud wrestling.)
The 1977 cartoon version of The Hobbit
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I dont like anime much. But my vote is like this; long ears for elves, but not past their head, differing lengths for different types is good. 1/2 elves should be human-sized with points (Vulcan). These wild-looking ears that would double as daggers, are just too much.
Shorter ears all the way.
I'm so sick of the WoW/anime/manga ears, it's not even funny.WoW/anime/manga ears, 4e, strictly miniatures reliant, powergaming, min-maxing, rules lawyers.... how are we even calling this game Dungeons & Dragons anymore.
Amen!
Personally, I say why not both? Leave some room for variation. Typically, I like elves with shorter points to their ears. But I don't see any reason why there can't be a particular sub-species or familial trait among some elves so that they have longer points. If I had to choose only one length, though, I'd go with short...
It can be both as long as the "long-eared" elves aren't insanely long-eared. If an elf's ears are so long that they look like an appendage then you've gone to far.
Cheers!
KF72
The 1977 cartoon version of The Hobbit
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
Just remember, that was what people think elves looked like.
I was referring to the (in my opinion) shoddy quality of that cartoon. I tried to look it once, but had to turn it off after 5 minutes, as both the drawing technique and the music was horrible.
I think I fast-forwarded a bit, though. Refresh my memory: Was that movie the one with the bearded elf king?
I believe that all elves have freakishly long ears by nature, but some undergo plastic surgery to infiltrate humans.
I read about it, too.
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I believe that all elves have freakishly long ears by nature, but some undergo plastic surgery to infiltrate humans.
I read about it, too.
I'm imagining a medieval version of that classic Eddie Murphy skit now.
My problem with the extra-long ears is functional more than aesthetic. First of all, they would be very difficult to keep covered in cold weather...a hat won't cut it...and therefore liable to frostbite. Also, if the character spends a lot of time out crawling through forests and thickets...like Shalelu, for example...the ears would constantly be getting caught on random branches and thorns and twigs, and would eventually be either ripped to shreds or scarred to the point of unsightliness.
They'd also give an opponent in melee a tempting handle to grab onto and yank, or slice off with a sword.
How does Shalelu keep her ears so smooth and pretty with all the time she spends in the wilderness? One possibility might be tying the ears up tight against the head using a headband.
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First of all, they would be very difficult to keep covered in cold weather...a hat won't cut it...and therefore liable to frostbite.
What about a woolen lined cloak with a woolen lined hood? Much like winter jackets today... who needs hats.
Also, if the character spends a lot of time out crawling through forests and thickets...like Shalelu, for example...the ears would constantly be getting caught on random branches and thorns and twigs, and would eventually be either ripped to shreds or scarred to the point of unsightliness.
I would think they're used to having their ears line that and thus pay more attention. Also, I don't know about your ears.. but when I flick my ears with a pen.. my ears seem to give way to the pen.. so something tells me branches would just push the ears aside. Thorns and twigs.. *shrugs* they probably deal with them the same way we do. Lotion.
They'd also give an opponent in melee a tempting handle to grab onto and yank, or slice off with a sword.
So do boobs and long hair.
How does Shalelu keep her ears so smooth and pretty with all the time she spends in the wilderness?
Lotion and natural instinct I would guess.
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Also, if the character spends a lot of time out crawling through forests and thickets...like Shalelu, for example...the ears would constantly be getting caught on random branches and thorns and twigs, and would eventually be either ripped to shreds or scarred to the point of unsightliness.I would think they're used to having their ears line that and thus pay more attention.
The echolocation helps too. ;)