Umbragen Stats


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can somebody please post the stats for the Umbragen Drow from issue #330, as my copy is currently MIA.

thanx!


Nice try, but no. It isn't too smart to ask for copyrighted material on Paizo's own boards.


Gabriel N wrote:
Nice try, but no. It isn't too smart to ask for copyrighted material on Paizo's own boards.

Gabe,

are you an employee of Pazio?
cuz if ur not, than i dont think it's really any of your business.

i have pretty much every issue of dragon since 3.5 but alot of them have gotten misplaced due to movin home from college, moving outta my old room, and havin my stuff moved around on me...

if u want me to prove i do indeed have the issue, i can do my best to recall certain items from it.


Monkeygod wrote:

Gabe,

are you an employee of Paizo?
cuz if ur not, than i dont think it's really any of your business.
...
if u want me to prove i do indeed have the issue, i can do my best to recall certain items from it.

That's not the point. You're asking for copyrighted material to be copied and pasted on a public messageboard, which both Paizo and Wizards of the Coast have repeatedly stated, formally or informally, not to be done. "Just post it" is crass - if you want somebody to send you the information, then post your email address so that it can be done.


Monkeygod wrote:

are you an employee of Pazio?

cuz if ur not, than i dont think it's really any of your business.

Oh, okay. We'll just ignore this post then.

TK


Lilith wrote:
That's not the point. You're asking for copyrighted material to be copied and pasted on a public messageboard, which both Paizo and Wizards of the Coast have repeatedly stated, formally or informally, not to be done. "Just post it" is crass - if you want somebody to send you the information, then post your email address so that it can be done.

To add to Lilith's post, these publicly accessible boards are actually privately owned by Paizo Publishing, so it's rather obnoxious to ask someone to violate copyright law by distributing said material on Paizo's own messageboards and act like you're doing nothing wrong.

The Exchange

While you doubtless feel that, as you purchased the relevant issue in the first place, you have already paid, copyright doesn't really work like that. I kind of sympathise, but I guess you will have to purchase a back copy. Those are the breaks.


Is it really so hard to tell him?

The answer is five words:

"The stats are the same."

A few other things, like weapon profs, change, but nothing major. Umbragen are, more or less, identical to Drow.

That said, I'd consider tracking down that issue, because it was a great one. One of the few Aprils I liked (mainly because it skipped on the jokes almost completely).


Justin Fritts wrote:

Is it really so hard to tell him?

The answer is five words:

"The stats are the same."

A few other things, like weapon profs, change, but nothing major. Umbragen are, more or less, identical to Drow.

That said, I'd consider tracking down that issue, because it was a great one. One of the few Aprils I liked (mainly because it skipped on the jokes almost completely).

That's precisely why I suspect he's never actually seen the article before.


ok,
that is outta line Gabe.

the favored class for them is lock, their homeland is under constant attack from abberations, and if i remember correctly, there was a variant for soulknife called soulbow or mabe it was a PrC.

for some odd reason i had a naggin feelin that there was a few stat differences, but i guess it turns out it was nothin major.

if you really want i can come up with more things that issue contained.

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