Maps and Submissions


Dungeon Magazine General Discussion


Out of curiosity, must you have maps with the adventures you submit? Because I am fairly good at writing adventures but suck at drawing maps.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Yes. You must submit map turnovers with your adventure. And the grim truth is that a cluttered or hard-to-understand map can actaully cause us to reject an adventure; it's happened before, and I'm sure it'll happen again.

Now that said... the author of the adventure doesn't have to be the one who draws the map. If you have a friend who's a better mapper, ask him to touch up your map. There's also numerous software applications online and for sale that can be used to create maps. You might even be able to convince someone who posts here at Paizo to help you out if we greenlight an adventure proposal and you suddenly find yourself panicking because you have to draw some maps.

But yeah. In the end, you do indeed need to provide legible maps with your adventure turnover. I suppose it's possible to write an adventure that DOESN'T use any maps... but since D&D's basically about killing monsters and taking their stuff, that'd be tough.


I am in the same boat. Luckily one of my gaming buddies is pretty good at drawing maps and he's going to help me out with a piece that I got the greenlight for.


Depending on the timing, the phase of the moon, my children's piano schedule, whether the laundry is done, and if the stars are right, I might be delighted to help. I'm not bad with maps. Click here to take a look.

(All I ask in return is your support lobbying the powers that be to allow me to do the final maps!)

-Ted

Liberty's Edge

Awesome work, Ashenvale. I'm very impressed.


Christopher West wrote:
Awesome work, Ashenvale. I'm very impressed.

Thank you very much!! I'm a huge fan of yours!! Your maps, more than anything else in DUNGEON, keep bringing our gaming group back from other game systems to good ol' D&D.

Any chance you'd be willing to criticise a far-more-recent map? I can't post it on the website because DUNGEON's reviewing it along with a manuscript. If they like the manuscript, and the submission moves on to the revision stage, I'd love to improve the map as much as possible!

-Ted

Sovereign Court

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Oh man! I was just wandering up this mountain and must have ended up on top of Olympus. I feel like I'm eavesdropping on a couple of strolling deities deciding how best to bring into existence the location of some poor party's demise while sipping ambrosia!


DitheringFool wrote:
Oh man! I was just wandering up this mountain and must have ended up on top of Olympus. I feel like I'm eavesdropping on a couple of strolling deities deciding how best to bring into existence the location of some poor party's demise while sipping ambrosia!

Yeah, but any moment now the true God of Cartography is going to notice that the entity he's entertaining is just a rot grub wearing sunglasses and a really expensive wig.

Contributing Cartographer

Just noticed this thread, a little late, but anyway.

Nice work Ashenvale, I really like the 3-D cathedral!

Lazz


Lazz wrote:

Just noticed this thread, a little late, but anyway.

Nice work Ashenvale, I really like the 3-D cathedral!

Lazz

Thanks Lazz! I really appreciate it!

By the way, for anyone reading all of this, Christopher West let me send him my map and provided the most FANTASTIC detailed and thoughtful review. His comments will improve that map 100% or more. Christopher West, you rock!!

Liberty's Edge

For those who don't know, Rob Lazzaretti is the guy who originally inspired me to try my hand at professional cartography, back in the days leading up to 3rd Edition. I fell in love with a starship map that he and Dennis Kauth designed for the Alternity game, and I set out to design more starships to match it for my game. Lazz's feedback was tremendously encouraging, and he gave me my first assignment at WotC: doing some diagrams for the Warships PDF.

Thanks again, Lazz! I bow to the real master. :)

Contributing Cartographer

Thank you Mr West!

I have really enjoyed watching your progress as a professional cartographer. The works you produce continue to amaze and inspire. I am proud to be able to work with you in this great industry of games!

Take care

Lazz

Liberty's Edge

Thanks for the kind words! I look back on some of the work I did when I was first starting out, and am amazed that you and others were willing to hire me to make more. :)

I'd love to collaborate with you on a project someday! It would be interesting to see what we could create.

Contributing Cartographer

Christopher West wrote:


I'd love to collaborate with you on a project someday! It would be interesting to see what we could create.

Hey you know I was just thinking the same thing recently. We could really do something amazing in a collaborative effort! Hmmmmmm.......Big giant Map of Mystery or something like the map a week.


Lazz wrote:
Christopher West wrote:


I'd love to collaborate with you on a project someday! It would be interesting to see what we could create.
Hey you know I was just thinking the same thing recently. We could really do something amazing in a collaborative effort! Hmmmmmm.......Big giant Map of Mystery or something like the map a week.

My inner fangirl is jumping up and down with glee. :D

The Exchange

Lilith wrote:
My inner fangirl is jumping up and down with glee. :D

Yeah, this is scary-cool! I am such a HUGE fan of both of them. I can't wait to see if/when this comes about.

Keep up the good works, men!

FH


Great work Ashenvale! And congrats on the two recent bookcovers! Totally cool!

I'm not in the same league as Chris or Lazz, but for beginning mappers out there, I've got an advice page on RPG mapping on my website that people might find useful as a starting point.
http://melkot.com/mechanics/map-guide.html

Denis, aka "Maldin"
======================================
Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com
Loads of edition-independent Greyhawk goodness... maps, magic, mysteries, mechanics, and more!


Maldin wrote:

Great work Ashenvale! And congrats on the two recent bookcovers! Totally cool!

I'm not in the same league as Chris or Lazz, but for beginning mappers out there, I've got an advice page on RPG mapping on my website that people might find useful as a starting point.
http://melkot.com/mechanics/map-guide.html

Denis, aka "Maldin"
======================================
Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com
Loads of edition-independent Greyhawk goodness... maps, magic, mysteries, mechanics, and more!

Hey, that's a fabulous website, Denis! Well done. And thanks for the kind words! Always appreciated!

Ted


Ashenvale wrote:
Hey, that's a fabulous website, Denis! Well done. Ted

Thanks Ashenvale! Its been a labor of love, although I haven't had time to add to it in a little while. Hopefully I'll be able to get back to it soon, and expand the City of Greyhawk section a bit with more locations. Oh, and few more Spelljammer ship models that are mostly done. ;-)

Denis, aka "Maldin"
===================================
Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com

Liberty's Edge

Lazz wrote:
Christopher West wrote:


I'd love to collaborate with you on a project someday! It would be interesting to see what we could create.
Hey you know I was just thinking the same thing recently. We could really do something amazing in a collaborative effort! Hmmmmmm.......Big giant Map of Mystery or something like the map a week.

I hope not only one BIG GIANT MAP OF MYSTERY but a whole book of 'em!!! I would buy it on the spot!!!

So, cartographers of the world (at least my world ;) unite and give us those fabulous maps - pleeeeaaase!!!

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