
Orange Dragon |
Koldoon is starting the Shackled City campaign this Sunday and I am running a Half-Dragon (Copper/Halfling) Rogue from the Races of the Dragon book. My problem is that I am having trouble finding a reference on how Half-Dragons age. It is clear from reading the RoD that they age extremely slowly, but no definite age categories are listed there that I can find. Does anyone know if there is a rule for this either in Dragon or in one of the rule books?

Lilith |

There isn't any official one that I know of, but as a stop-gap I would use the elf age progression. Given the normal lifespan of a dragon (barring injury/sickness, of course), it's about 2000 years and halflings - well, significantly less than that. Average would be about 800-1000 years between the two, methinks.
Here's something you may want to consider - is your half-dragon the result of natural breeding or an acquired template through a magical source or ritual? You could have an optional "burn-out" rule - the body is so fused with energy that it wears out in an abnormally short time, significantly reducing one's lifespan.

Tome |

possible formula = (dragon ancestor maximum age/elf maximum age)xbase race maximum age = half-dragon maximum age
Treat the dragon ancesor's maximum age as being a a few hundred years less if you like.
Alternativly you could treat half-dragons as advancing though dragon age categories insted of normal ones and use the formula result to determine when they enter the twilight.
Just some suggestions from a dragon obessed freak o' nature ^_^.

The White Toymaker |

Tequila Sunrise wrote:Dragons are immortals, living unto the end of time and beyond! Therefore half-dragons are half-mortal, living only until the end of time.shouldn't they live Half-way to the end of time?
I guess that would depend on your outlook. I figure that there's a lot of time between the beginning of time and the end of time, but there's a lot more time that never actually happens and is therefore beyond the end of time.
That being the case, I'd say that cutting off a Half-Dragon's lifespan at the end of time is pretty cruel. I mean, Mommy gets to go look at all the time that never happened, but poor little Dave doesn't get to because she fell in love with a soft-skinned fleshy thing. How is that fair? (Sorry, I lost the ability to take this thread seriously at "half-mortal".)

Tequila Sunrise |

Tequila Sunrise wrote:Dragons are immortals, living unto the end of time and beyond! Therefore half-dragons are half-mortal, living only until the end of time.shouldn't they live Half-way to the end of time?
As Queen Mab explains in Merlin, 'A half-mortal dies in fullness of time, while an immortal lives beyond.' Damn, I still say Merlin is the best Arthurian movie yet made!

Tome |

Sorry to burst your bubble (Yay, Bubbles) but dragons have finite lifespans. In the dragonomicon it states "a dragon is mortal and cannot stave off death forever".
The dragonomicon also states that "A dragon's maximum age is a function of it's Charisma score. For a chromatic dragon, multiply the dragon's Charisma score by 50 and add the result to 1,200. This is the age when the twilight period begins for that kind of dragon. For a metallic dragon, multiply the dragon's Charisma score by 100 and add the result to 1,200. This difference reflects the fact that metallic dragons are longer-lived than chromatic dragons. When a dragon's twilight period begins, the dragon must make a DC 20 Constitution check. The dragon dies if the check fails. If the check succeeds, the dragon survives, but it's Constitution score drops by 1. Each year thereafter, the dragon must succeed on on another Constitution check to stay alive."

Tequila Sunrise |

Sorry to burst your bubble (Yay, Bubbles) but dragons have finite lifespans. In the dragonomicon it states "a dragon is mortal and cannot stave off death forever".
Draconomicon, shmackonomicon! The 2nd edition MM referred to dragons as immortal, though Council of Wyrms had rules for max life spans. Anyway, this is one of those 'DM prerogetive' moments and I say IMMORTAL! After all, we play dungeons & DRAGONS, not tunnels & trolls.

Tome |

Draconomicon, shmackonomicon! The 2nd edition MM referred to dragons as immortal, though Council of Wyrms had rules for max life spans. Anyway, this is one of those 'DM prerogetive' moments and I say IMMORTAL! After all, we play dungeons & DRAGONS, not tunnels & trolls.
Dragons can be immortal, there's a true-dragon-only prestige class in the dragonomicon called "Dragon Ascendant" that effectively gives dragons divine rank 0 and turns them into gods. That's right, dragons can become gods just by taking levels in a prestige class. Plus it says that dragons rarely die of old age, so maximum age makes very little difference.
And really, when you get right down to it, what's the difference between 4,400 years (average gold dragon maximum age) and immortality?

Gwydion |

And really, when you get right down to it, what's the difference between 4,400 years (average gold dragon maximum age) and immortality?
I suddenly have an urge to run a game where the PCs start out as young'un dragons and age through the history of the campaign world...Not exactly Council of Wyrms, but similar...
*ponder* I need a Draconomicon.

Tequila Sunrise |

And really, when you get right down to it, what's the difference between 4,400 years (average gold dragon maximum age) and immortality?
The difference is that one is immortality, and one isn't. Btw, supplemental books are not d&d law. In fact, no d&d book is law. I own the draconomicon, but I disregard about 50% of it. Why? Because I disagree and my word is law because I am the DM. Dragons are immortal; not might-as-well-be-immortal-by-human-standards; not immortal-with-X-levels-of-dragon-ascendant; they are immortal plain and simple.

Tequila Sunrise |

And just to illustrate how contradictory d&d books can be, why does the Draconomicon describe maximum age as the great wyrm stage...and then a dozen pages later describe advanced dragons that exist beyond the great wyrm stage?
There is such a thing as taking literature too seriously, even when we're not discussing T.S. Eliot.

Tome |

There is such a thing as taking literature too seriously, even when we're not discussing T.S. Eliot.
True, though if you could see the expression on my face it's usually a big goofy grin to let people know I'm not taking things seriously. This discussion was just for fun anyways.