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If I want to use something that WotC published on their website in an adventure for Dungeon Magazine, is that acceptable? For instance, WotC publishes "Random Encounters" and "Vicious Venues" - would it be kosher to use said material in an adventure submission?

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And would it be ok as well, if we use a "map of mystery" from Dungeons own pages?


EP Healy wrote:
If I want to use something that WotC published on their website in an adventure for Dungeon Magazine, is that acceptable? For instance, WotC publishes "Random Encounters" and "Vicious Venues" - would it be kosher to use said material in an adventure submission?

You might want to check out the balance prior to doing so. The WotC download "Stone Dead" adventure, for example, has CR10 critters running around with Rings of Protection +4, Belts of Str +4, Eyes of the Eagle, etc...

The treasure is sometimes way off.


I'm very interested in this question also, in particular, if we can use information culled from Keith Baker's Dragonshard articles?


Shroomy wrote:
I'm very interested in this question also, in particular, if we can use information culled from Keith Baker's Dragonshard articles?

I'm hardly an official opinion here, so hang on and wait for Jeremy or James or Erik (or another Paizo staffer) to chime in, but...

In the case of Keith Baker's Dragonshard, I don't see why not:

1. They are supposed to be canon, as much so as any sourcebook, according to WOTC and Keith. As such I'm pretty sure we are free to use them as we see fit, and since Paizo has the license to publish WOTC "official" articles and adventures, and we can use any WOTC published book... I think the web-published dragonshard articles would fall into this category

2. Much of the details of the articles were repeated in the relevant sections of the Players Guide to Eberron anyways, and we know we are allowed to "use" that book. So if the section you are refering to is duplicated like this, then the Web Article aspect is moot.

3. They are like 99% fluff (which is why I love them) so if you use it and are contradicted by another sourcebook later on a fluff issue about the dining habits of the Valenar vs their Khovarar brethren... well, not a lot of people are going to call you on it or care... not compared to making a mistake on a "hard" rule like AoO or how Feather Fall works.

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But like I said, I'm not in a position to give an official ruling on this, just my 2 cents.


I'm pretty sure Paizo's policy is that every submission must be completely original, unpublished material -- including the maps.

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Feel free to use material from WotC's website in your adventure; treat it as a non-core book (in other words, we'll have to reprint rules mechanics). Sure... it's free to get, but we can't assume that all of our readers have internet access.

As for using maps of mystery; we did so once back in issue #103 as an experiment. I'd rather not repeat this experiment. Maps of Mystery have value in being mysterious; once they have encounters keyed to them they become less useful. In addition, an adventure that uses a map of mystery is kind of cheating, in that we're robbing the reader of a new map and instead just reprinting an old map.


James Jacobs wrote:
As for using maps of mystery; we did so once back in issue #103 as an experiment. I'd rather not repeat this experiment. Maps of Mystery have value in being mysterious; once they have encounters keyed to them they become less useful. In addition, an adventure that uses a map of mystery is kind of cheating, in that we're robbing the reader of a new map and instead just reprinting an old map.

Has anyone ever gathered up ideas inspired from particular map(s) of mystery? I'd be intruiged to see the various results of the minds who've used the maps.

Might make for an interesting contest, even...

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Bram Blackfeather wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
As for using maps of mystery; we did so once back in issue #103 as an experiment. I'd rather not repeat this experiment. Maps of Mystery have value in being mysterious; once they have encounters keyed to them they become less useful. In addition, an adventure that uses a map of mystery is kind of cheating, in that we're robbing the reader of a new map and instead just reprinting an old map.

BB wrote:

Has anyone ever gathered up ideas inspired from particular map(s) of mystery? I'd be intruiged to see the various results of the minds who've used the maps.

Might make for an interesting contest, even...

Yep, I've been inspired by one map of mystery and I thought about sending in a querry. However, as James said they wouldn't print it, I think I just skip it. :(

Anyway - the contest-idea might be cool. Could be made here on these boards as well...

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James Jacobs wrote:

Feel free to use material from WotC's website in your adventure; treat it as a non-core book (in other words, we'll have to reprint rules mechanics). Sure... it's free to get, but we can't assume that all of our readers have internet access.

How about Map-a-week maps? Those are pretty interesting...
Can we use them in a submission?


the vast majority of map a weeks on the WotC website are reprints of maps in current books (in the current incarnation of map a week) and a lot of the older maps a week (though by no means not all) were reprints of maps from 2e books/modules.

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