I just thought that you all might find this amusing. Would it make a good soundtrack to The Age of Worms?
I just thought that you all might find this amusing. Would it make a good soundtrack to The Age of Worms?
Hey, Dr. Awkward! That's the same nickname I use when authoring palindromes.
Great minds thinking alike and all. ;)
As for the band... I'd have to sign in to hear them but I can't see trying to explain environments and events to players over a screaming metal god. Being, among other things, a hard rock singer, I could try, but I'd have to bark through a PA and that would probably clear the table.
Yes, I'm just sure it would.
Hey, Dr. Awkward! That's the same nickname I use when authoring palindromes.
A good name too. It influences the way I think. For example, the car I drive: A Toyota. Race fast, safe car. A Toyota.
As for the band... I'd have to sign in to hear them but I can't see trying to explain environments and events to players over a screaming metal god.
Yeah, I was kinda thinking it might set the mood for the final battle... :D
A good name too. It influences the way I think. For example, the car I drive: A Toyota. Race fast, safe car. A Toyota.
Hey, Dr. Awkward! That's the same nickname I use when authoring palindromes.
I only think in palindromes every few years, usually when I'm on a vacation that proves to be too dull for words, but when I do. Good god.
Last time I was in Arizona I wrote a palindromic song in rhyming couplets. It's the same from back to front. Front to back. Well, you know how it is... insanity. The 'L' in the word last is the central pivot outwards.
This one took me forty minutes. I'm not proud.
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EMU LOVE VOLUME (c. Rone Barton 2002)
Ho!
Emu love volume!
Race laser if flow erupts
I'm raft I'm muse--ew!
Rent rape us
Awash, crane dragon sits
But rat is bonked
I trap a spine
Man, tinker on!
Emu love volume!
Sit in it now
I won't sulk cus
Stuck cab sleep
One man rusts
A last surname no!
Peels back cuts
Suck lust now
I won tinitis
Emu love volume!
No reknit name
Nips a part
I deknob sitar tubs
tis no garden arch
Saw a sue partner
Wee summit far
Mist pure wolf
Fire sale car
Emu love volume!
Oh!
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In the pantheon of my personal campaign world, I included a true neutral deity charged with the preservation of balance within the pantheon itself (and within the setting to which the pantheon is bound). To reflect this, I gave him/her a palindrome for a name: Nadorodan.
I'm quite proud of the set of deities I created for this world; while it has a lot of familiar echoes from existing D&D pantheons of Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms (as well as real world pagan pantheons of old), it was designed to incorporate that sense of balance. If you add up the number of lawful deities, they equal the number of chaotic ones. Same with good and evil, male and female, etc.
Jade - YES! That made me laugh harder than I have in a long time (and I mean that in a good way :) ). That is BEAUTIFUL!
Jade - YES! That made me laugh harder than I have in a long time (and I mean that in a good way :) ). That is BEAUTIFUL!
Thank you so much, David. You are very kind. :)
In the pantheon of my personal campaign world, I included a true neutral deity charged with the preservation of balance within the pantheon itself (and within the setting to which the pantheon is bound). To reflect this, I gave him/her a palindrome for a name: Nadorodan.
I'm quite proud of the set of deities I created for this world; while it has a lot of familiar echoes from existing D&D pantheons of Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms (as well as real world pagan pantheons of old), it was designed to incorporate that sense of balance. If you add up the number of lawful deities, they equal the number of chaotic ones. Same with good and evil, male and female, etc.
I too am a sucker for symmetry.
I like to include hidden levels of word play in my writing without making it obvious to the reader... that way the game of it all isn't inhibiting the forward motion of the story leaving only you beautiful mind sorta folks to pick up on it. ;)
In the pantheon of my personal campaign world, I included a true neutral deity charged with the preservation of balance within the pantheon itself (and within the setting to which the pantheon is bound). To reflect this, I gave him/her a palindrome for a name: Nadorodan.
I'm quite proud of the set of deities I created for this world; while it has a lot of familiar echoes from existing D&D pantheons of Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms (as well as real world pagan pantheons of old), it was designed to incorporate that sense of balance. If you add up the number of lawful deities, they equal the number of chaotic ones. Same with good and evil, male and female, etc.
Oh, and your use of a palindrome to symbolize neutrality? Brilliant, my friend.
Last time I was in Arizona I wrote a palindromic song in rhyming couplets. It's the same from back to front. Front to back. Well, you know how it is... insanity.
Yeah, palindromes tend to make more sense in Chinese.
Yeah, palindromes tend to make more sense in Chinese.
Last time I was in Arizona I wrote a palindromic song in rhyming couplets. It's the same from back to front. Front to back. Well, you know how it is... insanity.
Oh now, Won Ho...
eh, the best I could do on short notice.
Sorry to hijack the intent of your post. Back to the heavy metal soundtrack idea, people! ;)
Palindrome-lovers should check out "Bob" by Weird Al Yankovic. Not only does it include palindromes, it rhymes!
I, man, am regal, a German am I
Never odd or even if I had a hi-fi
Madam, I'm Adam, too hot to hoot
No lemons, no melon, too bad I hid a boot
Lisa Bonet ate no basil, Warsaw was raw
Was it a car or a cat I saw?
Rise to vote, sir, do geese see god?
"Do nine men interpret?", "Nine men," I nod
Rats live on no evil star, Won't lovers revolt now?"
Race fast safe car
Pa's a sap, Ma is as selfless as I am
May a moody baby doom a yam
Ah, Satan sees Natasha, no devil lived on
Lonely Tylenol not a banana baton
No "x" in Nixon, O, stone, be not so
O Geronimo, no minor ego
"Naomi," I moan, "A Toyota's a Toyota"
A dog, a panic in a pagoda
Oh, no! Don Ho!, Nurse, I spy gypsies-run!
Senile felines, now see bees I won
UFO tofu, we panic in a pew
Oozy rat in a sanitary zoo
God! A red nugget!, A fat egg under a dog!
Go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog
Sorry to hijack the intent of your post. Back to the heavy metal soundtrack idea, people! ;)
There must be more Evil-undead-god-themed heavy metal out there. I just don't know what it is. It would be a lot of fun to set it up so that every time a kyuss minion is "on camera", the soundtrack for the game makes a quick shift to metal. Maybe make the Ebon Triad use dark ambient, and the creatures guarding the tomb of the Wind Duke could be speed metal... What music would make an appropriate lizardfolk soundtrack? Lounge?
Palindrome-lovers should check out "Bob" by Weird Al Yankovic. Not only does it include palindromes, it rhymes!
I was surprised to see someone had attempted a palindromic song before but Al performed this feat without demonstrating that he could create even a single palindrome.
Every palindrome he used can be found in the palindromic compendium "Go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog" so he must have just lined up examples that rhymed.
My song also rhymes but is the same front to back. His is only the same sentence for individual sentence.
That all said, I would really like to hear how he made the song flow, despite the lack of linear meaning. What album is that off of, Airwalkrr?
There must be more Evil-undead-god-themed heavy metal out there. I just don't know what it is. It would be a lot of fun to set it up so that every time a kyuss minion is "on camera", the soundtrack for the game makes a quick shift to metal. Maybe make the Ebon Triad use dark ambient, and the creatures guarding the tomb of the Wind Duke could be speed metal... What music would make an appropriate lizardfolk soundtrack? Lounge?
Sorry to hijack the intent of your post. Back to the heavy metal soundtrack idea, people! ;)
You want metal for Kyuss? There was this Norweigan group named after that stoney field in Iceland that looks like the surface of the moon. What was that name? Aaa... this is gonna kill me trying to remember.
Their music was truly epic. Not my thing, but epic.
You want metal for Kyuss? There was this Norweigan group named after that stoney field in Iceland that looks like the surface of the moon. What was that name? Aaa... this is gonna kill me trying to remember.
Their music was truly epic. Not my thing, but epic.
Well, heavy metal isn't usually my thing either, but I do appreciate the value of appropriate mood-enhancing environments. And epic metal seems about right for an undead god like Kyuss, about to manifest his destiny and throw the world into eternal darkness. Hell, even the undead in World of Warcraft throw up the horns when they dance. As far as I'm concerned, the more epic the better. This is the end of the world we're talking about here. :)
As an aside (at least from the palindrome discussion), I wanted to note that bringing in anything related to "Kyuss" is going to have my group rolling on the floor laughing, as we started this campaign while working together at a rock club where we would see the members of the rock band Kyuss in all their current projects (Queens of the Stone Age, Mondo Generator, Fu Manchu) on a regular basis. Now, naturally, those guys did get the name Kyuss from D&D (I asked), which helps with our current game of "outing" rock stars who play D&D. The list is quite lengthy, and could make for a good Dragon article or something I suppose... at any rate, metal is saturated with fantasy/D&D references... try High on Fire if you're looking for some good battle music with completely over-the-top Lovecraft/Howard/Gygax references (not as obvious as the bands Lightning Bolt, Mind Flayer and Black Wizard, but close).
Well, heavy metal isn't usually my thing either, but I do appreciate the value of appropriate mood-enhancing environments. And epic metal seems about right for an undead god like Kyuss, about to manifest his destiny and throw the world into eternal darkness. Hell, even the undead in World of Warcraft throw up the horns when they dance. As far as I'm concerned, the more epic the better. This is the end of the world we're talking about here. :)
You want metal for Kyuss? There was this Norweigan group named after that stoney field in Iceland that looks like the surface of the moon. What was that name? Aaa... this is gonna kill me trying to remember.
Their music was truly epic. Not my thing, but epic.
Dimmu Borgir. I saw your post and the band's name just popped into my head. Go DL a sample of that and see if it fits the bill.
I was a "metalhead" for quite a few years but I've always just listened to anything from any genre. Have yet to cut the hair though. It's still 40 inches long. If anyone out there wants to pay me, I'll let them cut it. Pay me enough and you can cut it off and flog me with it.
We can make it a pay-per-view event.
As an aside (at least from the palindrome discussion), I wanted to note that bringing in anything related to "Kyuss" is going to have my group rolling on the floor laughing, as we started this campaign while working together at a rock club where we would see the members of the rock band Kyuss in all their current projects (Queens of the Stone Age, Mondo Generator, Fu Manchu) on a regular basis. Now, naturally, those guys did get the name Kyuss from D&D (I asked), which helps with our current game of "outing" rock stars who play D&D. The list is quite lengthy, and could make for a good Dragon article or something I suppose... at any rate, metal is saturated with fantasy/D&D references... try High on Fire if you're looking for some good battle music with completely over-the-top Lovecraft/Howard/Gygax references (not as obvious as the bands Lightning Bolt, Mind Flayer and Black Wizard, but close).
That's great insider info, WL. When I see your name I'm thinking "Wait... wait... I never wanna be without you..." well, cuz of the band of course.
Your idea of outing rock star gamers and ex gamers would certainly make for a fun article.
There's a band called Mind Flayer?
Wow.
I just thought that you all might find this amusing. Would it make a good soundtrack to The Age of Worms?
Ha ha, I listened to Kyuss while reading the first few Age of Worms adventures. It seemed like the right thing to do. As for playing it during the game session: music is a good mood enhancer, but Kyuss needs to be played loud, and that might be a problem.
Funny story: One time a friend came over and threw a Kyuss CD in the stereo and cranked it up. Not 5 minutes later the undesirable neighbor (nicknamed King Crackhead) was standing in the doorway saying "You guys like Kyuss? Cool!".
Gotta be careful with that Kyuss.
Want some doom and gloom that might go better in the background of a game session? Try Sunn0))) if you can stand it. Whatever you do, don't blame the messenger.
ahh... sweet Sunn0)))... that's good stuff too (hell, they wear druid's robes on stage!). And yes, there is a band called Mind Flayer... it's some of the guys from Lightning Bolt. Never quite figured out that Lightning Bolt was a D&D name until they started Mind Flayer; then everyting started coming together. Hyper-spastic prog-noise... real cool stuff. Not quite as impressive as Lightning Bolt, but still real cool. BTW, do yourself a favor and see Lightning Bolt if they roll through your town; the two Brians in the band put on one of the best shows I've ever seen.
(on an even more tangential aside, the guy [Pete] who released the Mind Flayer record on Bulb Records used to play D&D back in Hattisburg, Miss. with one of the guys in my campaign. It's weird how these things link up sometimes...)
I found that heavy metal, while certainly enjoyable, is not conducive to gaming environments--although quick mood music pieces that can be queued up quickly might work.
The heavy metal song that reminds me the most of a D&D battle is "Blood Red Skies" by Judas Priest, but a song that actually depicts a battle with music is "The Necromancer" by Rush--which is tough to listen to unless you're a Rush fanatic like me AND like a little early 70's acid rock--which, of course, I do.
There's also a place in my heart for good old cheesy heavy metal that attempted to capture the mastery of the fantasy theme in heavy metal, but failed miserably--Saxon (Crusader) from 1984 comes to mind.....boy, were those guys LOUD (I saw them with Quiet Riot and Fastway and Krokus in a quadruple bill that ruined my hearing for life, I think....)
Anyway, to me heavy metal and D&D go hand in hand--I grew up with both of them........that and Mickey's Malt Liquor with the shank top.....sigh
I found that heavy metal, while certainly enjoyable, is not conducive to gaming environments--although quick mood music pieces that can be queued up quickly might work.
The heavy metal song that reminds me the most of a D&D battle is "Blood Red Skies" by Judas Priest, but a song that actually depicts a battle with music is "The Necromancer" by Rush--which is tough to listen to unless you're a Rush fanatic like me AND like a little early 70's acid rock--which, of course, I do.
I was so into Rush... and the fact that you know who Saxon and Fastway are...
Krokus singing Midnight Maniac... with that singer who looked like the singer from Air Supply but with bad parenting...
I sympathize with your hearing loss. I explain to people, "Come again? Rock and roll ear."
Oh yeah....I also got a first generation Walkman for Christmas in 1982--no automatic volume control so you could blast 180 db directly into your eardrum if you wanted to.
Combine that with "Powerslave" by Iron Maiden and I'm surprised I can hear anything at all today. My wife says that my hearing loss only manifests itself when she's b@#!&ing at me, but I say "huh?"
I have to chime in here with props for the 'godfather' of metal, that tiny elf with iron and leather lungs, the almighty Ronnie James Dio! Granted, some of his solo stuff was a little too much, but the stuff he did with Blackmore in Rainbow is amazing.
"Crossbows in the firelight"
"One day in the year of the Fox came a time remembered well. When the strong young man of the rising sun heard the tolling of the great black bell."
"If I was high on a hill, she would still be lookin down at me"
"Hot wind moving fast across the desert. We feel that our time has arrived. The world spins while we put his wing together. A tower of stone to take him straight to the sky. Oh I see his face. Where is your star. It is far, is it far, is it far
When do we leave, yeah. I believe, I believe"
"Kill the king, strike him down!"
and the almighty "you're the man.....and you're the man....we're all the MAAAAAAAAAAN! The man on the silver mountain!"
and I second the Harris/Dickinson team! "Flight of Icarus", "Rime of the Ancient Mariner", "Blood Brothers", "Paschendale" (though that is more about WWI, but still very gritty and D n D -ish)...and my fav! THE TROOPER!
"You’ll take my life but I’ll take yours too
You fire you musket but I’ll run you through
So when your waiting for the next attack
You’d better stand there’s no turning back
The bugle sounds. The charge begins
But on this battlefield no one wins
The smell of acrid smoke and horses breath
As I plunge on into certain death
The horse he sweats with fear we break to run
The mighty roar of the russian guns
And as we race towards the human wall
The screams of pain as my comrades fall
We hurdle bodies that lay on the ground
And the Russians fire another round
We get so near yet so far away
We were meant to fight another day
We get so close near enough to fight
When a Russian gets me in his sights
He pulls the trigger and I feel the blow
A burst of rounds take my horse below
And as I lay there gazing at the sky
My body’s numb and my throat is dry
And as I lay forgotten and alone
Without a tear I draw my parting groan"
and I also agree that playing this music is not so good during actual gaming. The only stuff we allowed was instrumentals/soundtracks. Vangelis/Blade Runner, Conan 1 and 2 sndtrks., and the musical scores of the LOTR movies that have recently come out, though not the soundtracks.
Oh yeah....I also got a first generation Walkman for Christmas in 1982--no automatic volume control so you could blast 180 db directly into your eardrum if you wanted to.
Combine that with "Powerslave" by Iron Maiden and I'm surprised I can hear anything at all today. My wife says that my hearing loss only manifests itself when she's b&@&#ing at me, but I say "huh?"
f2k, I had a good laugh on that one :-) The old Maiden stuff surely rocks, I still love the two live recordings, I think "a real dead one" and "a real live one" are the titles.
If anyone is looking for a heavy metal band with absolutely awful fantasy texts, try Man´O´War :-) I love their music, but most of the texts suck a lot. I think they still hold the world record for being the loudest band.
Stefan
I was so into Rush... and the fact that you know who Saxon and Fastway are...
Fastway's singer now fronts this cool irish punk band called Flogging Molly.
Fastway, in order to steal an opening spot for a tour back in the early 80's, actually stole Whitesnake's musical equippment.
It did not go well for them. Whitesnake wound up blowing up the next year with that self titled album. Karma-like, no?
Didn't they sing a few songs in the Trick or Treat movie where Skippy from family ties is offered up as a rocker kid? lol
As for POWERSLAVE, my friend just drove over here yesterday saying he was screaming along with that album in the car. He said other drivers were looking at him. He's not to type to stop singing in that circumstance.
Dio... what a voice. That little troll once got his arm grabbed by someone in an audience and I saw him lift the guy into the air effortlessly with that arm alone. He was smiling, still singing, and amusedly staring into the eyes of the fervorous metalhead who dangled from Dio's bracer.
Man-o-war. Saw them at Lamours in NYC when I was 16. I'm not going to disagree about the loud part, but then I also saw a triple bill there a few months earlier... Armored Saint, Wasp, and Metallica. Now THAT was LOUD! I hadn't eaten that day and I just wanted to lay down on the club floor because the bass punches of the music felt like a sonic bat to the gut. There was a bouncer there that was as big as a fat buffalo on stilts.
I just saw Judas Priest last year with Rob Halford back in the band...Black Label Society opened for them. I was surprised at how many young people were there, because I truly figured it was going to be a fat middle-aged 80's revival (at least our whole row was). It's amazing how much energy JP still had being as old as they are...it was a great concert.
Here's some my favorite music to listen to while working on my D&D campaign. Most are not heavy metal albums.
Ghost in the Machine by The Police
Zebra
Quarterflash
Floodland by the Sisters of Mercy
Signals from Rush
Anything by Pink Floyd
Here's some my favorite music to listen to while working on my D&D campaign. Most are not heavy metal albums.
Ghost in the Machine by The Police
Zebra
Quarterflash
Floodland by the Sisters of Mercy
Signals from Rush
Anything by Pink Floyd
I bounced for Zebra back in the day, at a club called Sundance. Not that they needed it. The bass player Felix Hanneman would personally guard the back entraces, boldly turning back anyone who wanted to sneak around paying for a ticket.
Signals was an entrancing effort.
Quarterflash... good god, were they responsible for the "Harden My Heart" song I was JUST SINGING YESTERDAY?
Yes, Quarterflash--back then you couldn't have gotten me to admit that I liked anything other than heavy metal, but I was a closet New Wave junkie. I'd listen to Men-at-Work, Duran Duran and early Metallica all in the same sitting.
Zebra was the first band that I downloaded from Napster when Napster went legal and I could pay for the music. Being in law enforcement and all, I couldn't really go for the piracy aspect of peer-to-peer sharing prior to that.
Our big circle of friends in high school would play AD&D whenever we didn't have any money to party...which was often. Virtually half the wrestling team played AD&D, so the jock-nerd theory was kind of out, as no one messed with the wrestlers since they could kick just about anyone's ass just with sheer strength and skill.
I spent at least 2-3 hours a day working on my AD&D campaigns or playing solo wargames (remember those old pocket games that you could buy for $6 where the counters were slipped inside the game board, which doubled as a sleeve for the game as well?)
I'd religiously hide all my gaming stuff whenever I brought female company to my house, as I didn't want to get labelled a nerd and too uncool to date. Then, when I turned 17 I just started not caring any more what people thought of me and it was a great moment of freedom.....and stupid me found out that some girls didn't think gamers were all that uncool and if they judged you by your hobbies they were probably not worth going out with anyway...at least long term.
I apologize profusely to the starter of this thread for the hijacking, but I'm having a lot of fun reminiscing with "The Jade" and others.
Fastway, in order to steal an opening spot for a tour back in the early 80's, actually stole Whitesnake's musical equippment.
It did not go well for them. Whitesnake wound up blowing up the next year with that self titled album. Karma-like, no?
Didn't they sing a few songs in the Trick or Treat movie where Skippy from family ties is offered up as a rocker kid? lol
Yep! Man was that a cool/dumb movie. I actually paid money to see that in the theatres waaaaaay back when. The promo I remember had Gene Simmons / Ozzy Osbourne shown rather heavily (even tho they aren't in the film all that much...Ozzy does get a laugh for his turn as a preacher man!) I had seen "Runaway" (which I thought was awesome! Magnum PI versus The Demon!!) and the one where Simmons plays the drag queen transvestite murderer with the massive coke nail / dagger..."Too young to Die"? and thought that this would be another cool movie...LOL!
Man, even though I hated Skippy, I still thought that movie was b#%*%in', I wonder if would still hold up? LOL!
I've never seen Man-O-War, so i don't know how loud that is, but i have seen Acid Mothers Temple in a small club here in San Diego.
On the third day after the show, i began to worry that the ringing was not going to stop.
Probably not much good for your RPG music needs, but if the AMT comes to your town, DO NOT miss the chance to see them play live. If you love Rock & Roll, these guys are incredible. True heavy metal gods. Well, psychadelic rock gods actually.
Zebra was the first band that I downloaded from Napster when Napster went legal and I could pay for the music. Being in law enforcement and all, I couldn't really go for the piracy aspect of peer-to-peer sharing prior to that.
Our big circle of friends in high school would play AD&D whenever we didn't have any money to party...which was often. Virtually half the wrestling team played AD&D, so the jock-nerd theory was kind of out, as no one messed with the wrestlers since they could kick just about anyone's ass just with sheer strength and skill.
I spent at least 2-3 hours a day working on my AD&D campaigns or playing solo wargames (remember those old pocket games that you could buy for $6 where the counters were slipped inside the game board, which doubled as a sleeve for the game as well?)
I'd religiously hide all my gaming stuff whenever I brought female company to my house, as I didn't want to get labelled a nerd and too uncool to date. Then, when I turned 17 I just started not caring any more what people thought of me and it was a great moment of freedom.....and stupid me found out that some girls didn't think gamers were all that uncool and if they judged you by your hobbies they were probably not worth going out with anyway...at least long term.
I apologize profusely to the starter of this thread for the hijacking, but I'm having a lot of fun reminiscing with "The Jade" and others.
As for your anti-piracy stance... in the parlance of our times, truedat.
When people toss out their rationalizations for stealing intellectual property, missing out on the whole right/wrong thing we were supposed to be taught as kids… I wonder what the end result of this self serving, mob rules logic will lead to.
My friend had a band that was just… sex-crimed by Napster. Special victims unit type stuff. Their first two albums sold amazingly well for the genre but once the DL scene roared into play their third album tanked even though they were filling a at least a thousand seats a night. Not only did they have to quit music and get better paying jobs, but they actually bore witness to fans coming up to them and extolling the band’s virtues mere seconds before bragging how they got their third album off the net for free.
Blink. Blink blink… ba-linkkkkk.
An accountant once explained to me that huge music mega-conglomerates were price gouging poverty stricken laptop owning students. That view seemed to him a clear proof that music should be provided to masses for free, going so far as to cite ‘how it was’ in ancient societies (and other mythical places that didn’t suffer from a morbidly inflated school tax and a monthly DSL fee that could feed a child in Mexico for three years—music people have bills too).
I explained back at him the unpaid years a musician or composer spends perfecting his or her art. Certainly more time than they spent in accounting school. Then I asked him to do my accounting because clearly accounting should be free for the masses as well. Not only that, I wanted that World's Greatest Dad mug off his office monitor top because mugs should be free too. ‘Dass just unconscious knowledge” You're gonna steal my music? Then I'm gettin' half those walnut brownies your momma just tinned up and sent ya.”
Funny you mentioning the girls and gaming thing. I was just thinking about how adorable girls have always thought it was when I said I was a gamer.
THEN AGAIN... gamers do not seem to always share this fanciful respect. I sang a hard rock show at a place called The Rock Bar in Connecticut back in 1992, and when I came off the stage and waded past the front four all-girl rows I was accosted by these three guys who wanted to shake hands vigorously, offer keen praise, and ask if I would give them my headband (yes... we sometimes wore headbands back then, Virginia). When I asked what they did for fun around there they sheepishly mentioned D&D.
"Hey, I play D&D too," sez me. "I've been published in Dragon."
Blink. Blink blink... ba-linkkkkk.
Their eyes went glassy in palpable discomfort. Self-hating gamers. Never understand that bunch. Wanna throw four-sideds at 'em like some kinda low rent caltrops.
I do remember those cheap lil semi-disposable wargames, though they were so play-it-four-times-then-buy-a-different-one that I can't remember a single title, just chits, chits, and more chits.
Fastway... didn't they sing a few songs in the Trick or Treat movie where Skippy from family ties is offered up as a rocker kid? lol
Yep! Man was that a cool/dumb movie. I actually paid money to see that in the theatres waaaaaay back when. The promo I remember had Gene Simmons / Ozzy Osbourne shown rather heavily (even tho they aren't in the film all that much...Ozzy does get a laugh for his turn as a preacher man!) I had seen "Runaway" (which I thought was awesome! Magnum PI versus The Demon!!) and the one where Simmons plays the drag queen transvestite murderer with the massive coke nail / dagger..."Too young to Die"? and thought that this would be another cool movie...LOL!
Man, even though I hated Skippy, I still thought that movie was b@!~@in', I wonder if would still hold up? LOL!
I saw it again a year ago at my friend's house. It was still a lot of fun, maybe because I saw it so long ago. RAGMAN...
Speaking of movies where backwards metal records opened ill-acted portals to hell, how about The Gate? Remember those two boys who found geodes in the backyard and next thing you know there's this Harryhausen type Kraken melonballing the core of a nice suburban home? Oh, FUN.
I do remember Simmons in all those roles, including that transvesty coke nail villain who dared oppose the righteous goodness of John Stamos. What about that Wanted Dead or Alive Film where he plays an islamic terrorist who enters the US disguised as a rabbi then ninety minutes later we're delighted to watch Rutger Hauer shove a pin-pulled grenade into his mouth?
Exploding heads. Does it ever stop being effective?
I saw it again a year ago at my friend's house. It was still a lot of fun, maybe because I saw it so long ago. RAGMAN...
Speaking of movies where backwards metal records opened ill-acted portals to hell, how about The Gate? Remember those two boys who found geodes in the backyard and next thing you know there's this Harryhausen type Kraken melonballing the core of a nice suburban home? Oh, FUN.
Oh yeah, when that big monster falls to the floor and splits into a couple dozen lil monsters totally freaked me out waaay back when. I was all ok about the opening to hell or whatever, but a buncha lil monsters crawling closer to the good guys gave me the willies...
and speaking of little monsters, do you remember the 'Tales from the Darkside' TV show that had this woman renting a room where this albino cat/demon thing fed on the renters...scratching down her back in bloody ribbons before feeding on her neck. That show had many 'freakout' moments for me. loved. every. episode.
I do remember Simmons in all those roles, including that transvesty coke nail villain who dared oppose the righteous goodness of John Stamos.
I can't remember anything about that 'film', probably to my benifit. That was about the time that Simmons was writing 'Murder in High Heels' (which I kinda still like) and 'Burn Biznitch Burn...whoo-hoo-hoo!' I am so glad that Paul Stanley stayed true to the music and didn't get all Hollywood. Do you remember Mr Simmons in 'Red Surf', with the early wackier version of George Clooney???
What about that Wanted Dead or Alive Film where he plays an islamic terrorist who enters the US disguised as a rabbi then ninety minutes later we're delighted to watch Rutger Hauer shove a pin-pulled grenade into his mouth?
Exploding heads. Does it ever stop being effective?
Oh yeah, that was pretty much the best part of that video! Rutger was another one I watched in all of his lesser movies...'Nighthawks', 'Osterman Weekend', 'Flesh and Blood'... That one is D and D related, though many of his could be mined for ideas for D and D stuff...'Blade Runner' and 'The Hitcher' for a couple...It made me so happy to see him in 'Sin City' and really do good scenes again.
And for the exploding heads thing, how about 'Scanners', sick fun!
Oh and Kyuss is true metal...Just to keep this in the same thread...wow! I have split this all up into a million directions...Sorry about that.
I can't remember anything about that 'film', probably to my benifit. That was about the time that Simmons was writing 'Murder in High Heels' (which I kinda still like) and 'Burn Biznitch Burn...whoo-hoo-hoo!' I am so glad that Paul Stanley stayed true to the music and didn't get all Hollywood. Do you remember Mr Simmons in 'Red Surf', with the early wackier version of George Clooney???
Never saw Red Surf. Of course one can't even say the phrase exploding heads without thinking Cronenberg. :) The man was a pioneer in the field of noodle splattering.
Ever see Rutger Hauer in that late 80's rip-off of Blind Swordsman Zatoichi? I think it was called Blind Fury. That I actually enjoyed. And I agree, it was good to see him working again.
I've never seen Man-O-War, so i don't know how loud that is, but i have seen Acid Mothers Temple in a small club here in San Diego.
On the third day after the show, i began to worry that the ringing was not going to stop.
Tinitis for three days straight? That would scare me.
Even as a kid I wouldn't go into one of those sonic death traps without hearing protection. That said, I did not apply the same clear logic to rehearsals and I lost a little hearing in short order. Doesn't manifest itself in too many ways but every woman I've ever known has been able to comfortably hear my TV at a volume that has me straining to hear or outright reading lips. Eventually I just admit the grampy-style infirmity.
When people toss out their rationalizations for stealing intellectual property, missing out on the whole right/wrong thing we were supposed to be taught as kids… I wonder what the end result of this self serving, mob rules logic will lead to.
Here's my rationalization: it's legal. I live in Canada, and I pay a levy for each piece of blank media I buy, regardless of what I put on it. It's handed over to the government, who throws it at the recording industry based on some master plan. As a result it's perfectly legal and ethical for any Canadian to download music. I pay extra on every CD I buy regardless of whether I'm downloading music (and I go through a lot of blank media), so I'm hardly going to feel bad about some file-sharing going on.
Still, there are plenty of Canadians that don't know that it's legal to download music. They continue to do things like buy from the iTunes store. But if they download an album from iTunes and then burn it to a CD, they're paying for it twice. Once to iTunes, and once to pay the levy attached to the CD. DVDs too, I believe.
Anyway, try to rope in your generalizations before you offend someone. I hardly think that the law of a democratic country regarding intellectual property counts as "mob rules", simply because it differs from the law where you happen to live. Or were you not trying to say that Canadians don't know the difference between right and wrong?
When people toss out their rationalizations for stealing intellectual property, missing out on the whole right/wrong thing we were supposed to be taught as kids… I wonder what the end result of this self serving, mob rules logic will lead to.Here's my rationalization: it's legal. I live in Canada, and I pay a levy for each piece of blank media I buy, regardless of what I put on it. It's handed over to the government, who throws it at the recording industry based on some master plan. As a result it's perfectly legal and ethical for any Canadian to download music. I pay extra on every CD I buy regardless of whether I'm downloading music (and I go through a lot of blank media), so I'm hardly going to feel bad about some file-sharing going on.
Still, there are plenty of Canadians that don't know that it's legal to download music. They continue to do things like buy from the iTunes store. But if they download an album from iTunes and then burn it to a CD, they're paying for it twice. Once to iTunes, and once to pay the levy attached to the CD. DVDs too, I believe.
Anyway, try to rope in your generalizations before you offend someone. I hardly think that the law of a democratic country regarding intellectual property counts as "mob rules", simply because it differs from the law where you happen to live. Or were you not trying to say that Canadians don't know the difference between right and wrong?
Rope in my generalizations? Apparently, grumpy sir, you happen to be my generalization. Every hue, texture, and flavor of it.
Do me, and your country a favor, and don't speak for the entirety of Canada. That's an unfair and truly divisive way to stack your defense... telling me that if I have a problem with you, and your interesting view on ethics and commerce, that I must somehow have a problem with the citizens of an entire country. I'll have you know I can recite every lyric to Oh, Canada. What’s more, I like beavers.
You, not Canada (HEY, DID I WRITE CANADA ANYWHERE ON MY POST?!), are the offended party, because I have called those that toss out illogical and meager justifications for intellectual property theft, thieves. I guess that struck a nerve. So, let's stay on point here. I think you’re stealing and you tossing spitballs from atop a house of cards to prove that you aren’t.
Some of your argument props up my theories about there being a mob rule. A great delusion to excuse ourselves from any understanding that the path we have chosen may have a price to pay, and that such a price is paid by the very artists (D&D writers as well) we claim to support and enjoy.
Arguing that provincial legality automatically makes something acceptable is a historical infinity loop that is beyond my reach this morning. Many things have been legal in many times and places that quite arguably should not have been.
Since we’re not talking about the moral complexities of stealing bread to feed a starving family I can go on record as confirming that yes, stealing is wrong. Your argument seems to hinge upon what might be a conspiracy theory (“some master plan”) whereby when you, the Canadian consumer, pay high levees on your overpriced blank media, like CDs and DVDs, there are invisible kick backs to the record companies.
Even if this were so, how do you justify stiffing the composers and musicians who struggle to make their own mortgage each month? You think the record companies pay them out of that ‘mystery levy’? So often I listen to people rail on about big company evils and also that little man. Musicians and composers are that little man. You think this is a lucrative field for anyone who isn’t A-list?
How would you feel if I showed up to where you work and took a third of your paycheck, then justified it by saying, “See, there’s this contract your company signed that ties back to the Ottawa Garvey Act of 1921. And really that money belongs to us, the people. You chose the wrong job to work at, sport. This is ours.”
“What Ottawa Garvey Act of 1921?”
“Oh, see… they don’t WANT you to know about it, maaaaaaan.”
I live within the music and film community in New York, but I promise to not take anything you say as being somehow a knock against New Yorkers, because that would be… well, insane, wouldn’t it? I don’t have the luxury at guessing about what the economic effect of piracy are on artists who have made their creativity a full time job. It’s right here in front of me.
I greatly anticipate your thoughtful reply.
Many European countries have a television tax. So I guess that makes it right to watch pirated movies and burn them to your own DVD as well, right?
I would say...check Canadian law. If Canadian law says its okay to download copyrighted music for yourself without paying, then you're okay.
Hey...I thought we were jus talkin bout Kyuss (and Iron Maiden and Gene Simmons and Rutger Hauer and Scanners and Skippy and chicken tenders and pancakes and Ronnie James Dio!)
I have no emnity towards people who download music without paying from the Internet, or those who freely copy music from their library to give to their friends. I have friends who have told me that they do it...and I tell them that if they want to have a clean conscience that they should go out and slowly buy legal copies of any music they've downloaded for free. Some of them have done it...most probably haven't.
Just like I don't hold emnity towards people who get busted for DWI...I'm sure they had a "valid reason" for doing what they did. It doesn't hurt anyone, does it???
"The Jade" has given a personal account on how a group of musicians that he knew had to give up music and get other jobs because of the free file sharing problem.
I've arrested people for selling counterfeit CD's and DVD's and I've received awards from the RIAA. I live on the Mexico border and pirated CD's and DVD's are openly sold in our flea markets and swap meets. We don't target the buyers or consumers, but only those who manufacture and distribute.
Would we all find it acceptable if an obscure group of software programmers figured out a way to put all of Paizo's products on the Internet for free? ....and then Dragon and Dungeon stopped publishing because everyone cancelled their subscription and got it for free? I like digital content, but I want to pay for it.
Perhaps some Canadian or European levy could be used to rationalize that away as well?
Just because the music industry is more diffused and the effects of illegal file sharing aren't "immediately noticeable" to most people (unlike the Jade, who saw and sees it first-hand)....well, it doesn't make it right.
Would I kick Dr. Awkward out of my gaming group?....no, of course not....but I'd still call him on it.
Hey...I thought we were jus talkin bout Kyuss (and Iron Maiden and Gene Simmons and Rutger Hauer and Scanners and Skippy and chicken tenders and pancakes and Ronnie James Dio!)
That part was MUCH more fun. ;)
Would I kick Dr. Awkward out of my gaming group?....no, of course not....but I'd still call him on it.
Absolutely. The boldness of my reply was a shaky attempt at a tempered response to what I found to be an irrationally brusque defensive. I have friends who pirate and when the subject comes up, I am sure to let them know how I feel. I think the people who blow up at the mere assertion of wrong doing are those who must already feel a bit conflicted. Or not. I really don't know.
The end result of wide spread piracy is the potential for a future of degraded product. Creative projects, seen all the way through distribution, are a tricky enough endeavor without there being no money in it.
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Many European countries have a television tax. So I guess that makes it right to watch pirated movies and burn them to your own DVD as well, right?
Cannot speak for all European countries, but in Germany, the theoretical maximum penalty is three years in prison (if you do it commercially, it's five years and fines up to 100.000 Euro). Apart from possible claims for compensation by the companies.
I'd think it's not quite as ok in Germany as it might be in Canada ^^.
Many European countries have a television tax. So I guess that makes it right to watch pirated movies and burn them to your own DVD as well, right?
Cannot speak for all European countries, but in Germany, the theoretical maximum penalty is three years in prison (if you do it commercially, it's five years and fines up to 100.000 Euro). Apart from possible claims for compensation by the companies.
I'd think it's not quite as ok in Germany as it might be in Canada ^^.
Three years in prison? I could strip naked and shoot a gun in the air while eating a puppy in Times Square and get less than three years.
I don't think the record companies are making a good case by martyrizing working mothers whose kids are downloading behind thier backs with brutal fines. There really is such a thing as bad press. Perhaps they should adopt a more widespread, warning-based slap on the wrist. By using draconian tactics, they're just villainizing themselves and thusly lending creedance to the "they're screwing us and I'm just screwing them back" crowd.
I have a friend who got an official warning and that was the end of his file sharing. Not a great loss there. The last thing he downloaded was Alan Thicke's son's album.
He said he really liked it.
Probably best to cut the boy off for his own good.
Bob by Weird Al was on Poodle Hat.
Brother Cane was/is more Vampire oriented.
There are sons such as Monster from the 60s.
That would be good for the thing from the pool.
KISS is good for cultists. Lick it up?
There was a group with stage shows full of costumes.
Grue or something.
I ordered 2 DVDs from them before I realized they were too
S&M and no D&D for me. Nice metal figures though.
You can always duy DVDs or CDs from the soarce, load them
into your computer and onto your Ipod.
If someone is committing a crime, don't let them drag you
down with them.
Just remember that all files can be deleted unless burned
to disk.
Dowload Police being bad.
Mom Allegedly Falsely Accused
http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=news&referrer=welcome&am p;id=20051225/43ae2750_3421_1334520051225146695403
I got this from People PCs newsfeed. I don't know if you can access this.
I certainly can make generalizations to all Canadians. Each of us pays the same levy on blank media regardless of whether we're actually downloading media. That means that we're either getting ripped off by the music industry, or we're getting our value back by downloading music. The country has recently looked over the issue of downloading music, and we have decided collectively that we think it's fine. If you disagree with that, I don't think that trying to marginalize the position will work, considering that we, as a country, have decided to keep our laws the way they are despite pressure from the big recording companies. They laid out their case and we heard it and decided to disagree.
Now, if an individual artist is not seeing any of that levy, it's not an issue for the average Canadian to worry about. That's between the artist, his publisher, and the government. Once I've done my part by paying for music, it's none of my business what happens to that money. That's just as true for the levy system as it is for an artist who isn't seeing a penny of the price of his CD because his publisher is screwing with him. I've done my part as a consumer by shelling out cash. What more can I do than give money in exchange for product?
As for buying music online, I think it's a dumb idea. You pay, you get something that isn't really a product and often can't be moved from computer to computer (something which keeps getting worse as technology changes), and which could be eliminated by a hard drive crash. You're always better off paying for something you can actually own and make your own copies of, especially when the data is as expensive as a physical CD anyway. However, if I don't really care about owning a CD because I don't expect I'll listen to it more than once or twice, or because I only want a track or two, it makes more sense to download it. If I want to own a CD, I'll buy it. Not only do I get the actual disc, which won't be subject to the kind of age degradation that a burned disc will, but I'll also get the packaging, which is usually a good thing to have if you like the artist. I recently picked up Blam by Ridley Bent, a Canadian independent artist whose work I just discovered. I now have his CD in my collection, just like the hundreds of other CDs I own and which are immune to the vagaries of hardware failure.
Also, you apparently have some kind of a problem with the levy distribution plan. Maybe it could use some work, but there are proper ways to go about fixing it up to make it a more ideal solution, and any flaws in the system don't render it immoral. It's the way we decided that Canada was going to deal with this whole Napster thing a few years back, and if you have a problem with it then you have a problem with Canadian democracy, because that's where the laws came from.
The bottom line is, we do things differently here. It's just ridiculous to suggest that because we do things differently we're somehow immoral. And when you attack something like filesharing, which is as legal for Canadians as driving under the limit, and which lots of Canadians are legally involved in, and which we have recently decided to keep legal, you are in fact attmepting to slander the good name of Canadians in general, for deciding to enshrine in law something that you personally have a problem with. But we're not Americans and we don't play by American rules. We decided to do something different.
To be honest, I don't know how much Ridley Bent gets from the levy system (although I'm pretty sure he has to actually apply for his share, which I don't know if everyone does). If he's not getting enough, I don't blame downloaders, and I don't blame the system. I'll go out on a limb and guess that probably the big recording companies have annexed most of that money and don't pass it on to their artists, much less independent artists. If that's the case, the distribution scheme should probably be changed to send the money directly to musicians, but that's not a slam on the system overall, just the execution.
Anyway, I'm not going to lose much sleep because some foreigner doesn't like the way we do things in my country. If you don't like it, move to Canada, get your citizenship, and get your MP to propose a legislation change. Otherwise, keep your accusations inside your own borders. You live in a place where filesharing is illegal and where no monies are collected to distribute to musicians to compensate for the filesharing that is apparently going on regardless. That's the choice that your peers made to govern the distribution of media. That's fine. You don't see me coming online and trying to say that just because I don't like that system somehow all the people who follow it are immoral.