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Honestly, I'm satisfied by what the editors have told me and they have heard what I wanted to say. The only thing keeping me on this thread at this point is all the people (who don't have any control over the magazine or any more knowledge than I) telling me that I have no right to whine about a FREE supplement. However, many of my peers have made all the arguments necessary on why we have the right to gripe, and why you people constantly telling us that we are wrong is the only reason why this thread stays alive.
I dare people to resist pressing reply to this post for one day and see if any of us continie to gripe. I think the majority of us are actually quite done with it. :)
It's been harder for me to keep an eye on the messageboards this week as I have been trying to catch up from my vacation, but I think I need to make a few comments here.
First: To all those people who are disappointed/frustrated that the Overload is not out yet, I would like to apologize again for the delay. I am just as disappointed as you are, although being on the front lines (so to speak) perhaps a trifle less surprised. I would like to once again reiterate that we have not forgotten about it, and we are working to get the overload out as soon as possible. Unfortunately it is taking much longer that we had originally hoped.
Second: To all those people who are offended on our behalf. Thanks! It is extremely gratifying that you all care so much about the magazines that you are defending our tardiness with the online supplement on the messageboards. I can sympathize with the people who feel there is too much complaining and griping about various issues on these boards. I love the support you are giving us by defending our decisions. However I would like to caution that griping about the complaints, or calling the people who post them names, does not help the situation. If you have a response to a complaint, by all means share it, but you don't need to attack the person who posted it to do so.
Third (and finally): I am not going to lock this thread yet, because until the overload is actually posted, it serves a purpose. But I would like to request that people tone things down a bit, and state unequivocally that I personally believe that the people who are complaining that the Age of Worms Overload is late do indeed have a legitimate gripe.
One other quick note. I suppressed a couple of posts that went up after I started writing the above post but before I submitted it. Going forward, lets try and keep this a little more civil people.
Whew. Thanks, Jeremy. My last post was indeed a bit snarky, and I didn't see yours before I posted it. In light of what you said, I was embarrassed by it and tried to delete. I'm glad you beat me to it.
To everyone across the table, I raise a glass. Peace, mates. Looking forward to sharing some excellent ideas with you all about our future games.
It's been harder for me to keep an eye on the messageboards this week as I have been trying to catch up from my vacation, but I think I need to make a few comments here.
<<SNIP>>
So... your avatar isn't just a pretty picture after all. That whole post was the wisest thing anyone could have said about this dilemma. I, too, await Age of Worms Overload, and thank the whole Dungeon crew ahead of time for their work. :)
Man . . . I love all you guys . . . lets never fight again!
( heh heh heh )
It's been harder for me to keep an eye on the messageboards this week as I have been trying to catch up from my vacation, but I think I need to make a few comments here.
First: To all those people who are disappointed/frustrated that the Overload is not out yet, I would like to apologize again for the delay. I am just as disappointed as you are, although being on the front lines (so to speak) perhaps a trifle less surprised. I would like to once again reiterate that we have not forgotten about it, and we are working to get the overload out as soon as possible. Unfortunately it is taking much longer that we had originally hoped.
Second: To all those people who are offended on our behalf. Thanks! It is extremely gratifying that you all care so much about the magazines that you are defending our tardiness with the online supplement on the messageboards. I can sympathize with the people who feel there is too much complaining and griping about various issues on these boards. I love the support you are giving us by defending our decisions. However I would like to caution that griping about the complaints, or calling the people who post them names, does not help the situation. If you have a response to a complaint, by all means share it, but you don't need to attack the person who posted it to do so.
Third (and finally): I am not going to lock this thread yet, because until the overload is actually posted, it serves a purpose. But I would like to request that people tone things down a bit, and state unequivocally that I personally believe that the people who are complaining that the Age of Worms Overload is late do indeed have a legitimate gripe.
I'm just happy to hear such a needed undertaking as Overload is being created, that it seems like it will be done well and not half-a$$ed, and that the powers-that-be at Dungeon are being straight with us.
Now unless the darn thing comes out in September, I'll be happy.
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Not a subscriber because it's not economically viable and I support my local store who gets it before Australain subscribers (often a week or so earlier). How being a subscriber makes it easier to justify making demands of people, I'm not sure, you pay for a magazine that you recieved. It doesn't change the fact that the Overload is material that Paizo could have made us pay for or decided not to release until a theoretical, stand alone publication sometime in 2007. It is for free by virtue of it being a freely available download at no cost.
Me? I'm hanging with anticipation, willing to wait and tired of reading attacks based in the fact it's not here yet. Unlike other role playing providers who can be months over expected release/shipping dates (WoC, White Wolf, Troll Lord Games... the list can go on), let alone MMORPG creators (pricipally Blizzard) who can be years over time; Paizo is a week or so over a proposed date. Most likely the staff are working over time already creating a product I happily put money down for every month.
It's not an easy task, putting together a commercial PDF release; ask any graphic designer or publisher that has done it. It's not as simple as spending an hour patching copy and layout to meet the expected level of quality that will satisfy the very discerning readers of Dungeon and Dragon magazines. Most likely the staff would have then been berated in this instance, becuase the PDF looked rushed and that they shoudl have taken more time to get it right rather than putting out a half baked, free additional support material package.
I guess there'd be no pleasing some people.
Third (and finally): I am not going to lock this thread yet, because until the overload is actually posted, it serves a purpose. But I would like to request that people tone things down a bit, and state unequivocally that I personally believe that the people who are complaining that the Age of Worms Overload is late do indeed have a legitimate gripe.
Yes we do. And expressing our gripes does not mean we are detractors of the magazine either. Issue #125 marks my 119th purchase of Dungeon in a row. I have supported this magazine throughout and make my opinions known to help make it better (at least in my opinion). I am patient about the realease of Overload only because I made the decision to postpone the start of my campaign until all material was available (prior experience with the unknown release dates of the previous AP taught me this lesson). But I do expect Dungeon to live up to its promises and we have been assured that they intend to. But don't hand me the line that because other magazines have failed to deliver that I shouldn't expect anything from the folks at Paizo. Overall I have been able to rely on the various Dungeon staffs to deliver what they promised and I don't expect that to change in the future (especially from the great Paizo staff).
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Yes we do. And expressing our gripes does not mean we are detractors of the magazine either. Issue #125 marks my 119th purchase of Dungeon in a row. I have supported this magazine throughout and make my opinions known to help make it better (at least in my opinion). I am patient about the realease of Overload only because I made the decision to postpone the start of my campaign until all material was available (prior experience with the unknown release dates of the previous AP taught me this lesson). But I do expect Dungeon to live up to its promises and we have been assured that they intend to. But don't hand me the line that because other magazines have failed to deliver that I shouldn't expect anything from the folks at Paizo. Overall I have been able to rely on the various Dungeon staffs to deliver what they promised and I don't expect that to change in the future (especially from the great Paizo staff).
Said much better than I could ever say it. I really do appreciate the Dungeon staff and really want to see Age of Worms kick as much butt as Shackled City.
You know, the last adventure path is what got me starting to buy Dungeon's again, and to be honest I really only liked the part up to the soul pillars..I feel it lost something after that.
The first two issues of the newest AP's are very very good, and I am expecting Sean's adventure to kick ass since he usually seems to know what he is doing. The Overload is just gravy. Its like going into a used book store and finding a mint condition MERP Haven's of Umbar for 5 bucks. At this point, based on what I saw in dungeon 124, I would pay money for the overload to get it now. So I am happily waiting even though my impatientence is killing me. Good thing my buddy is GMing a star wars campaign while I wait.
One comment... "It's free" ... nuff said.
Maybe next time, you guys could refrain from even telling anyone that you plan on releasing an overload until you have it up. That might prevent some of the issues.
Silly me, then everyone would complain that they should have been notified so that they could prepare for it and held off on starting campaigns until it was completed.
Nevermind, you just can't win. At least you know that you have a lot of people out there that support the extra effort you put into this adventure path. Hell, you could have just thrown the extras out... and just like I do with my 4 year old... if you complain about a gift... YOU DONT GET IT!
So hopefully this experience does not deter you guys from releasing more overloads in future editions.
ROCK ON!
Everybody here has valid points. In order for a business to satisfy the needs of its customers, it needs to hear the input from the customers. And there has been some overwhelming response for the AOW because everybody here thinks it's that good, otherwise there wouldn't be the volume of replies as we're seeing now. What's nice here is that both Eric and Jeremy have responded to customer input in these threads. They've apologized for the delay in the PDF for the campaign setting.
It's true that a product can't please everybody, so regardless of what is done, somebody somewhere is going to be disappointed. But I don't agree to that we should not voice our opinions or at least make known that we're a bit frustrated because paizo didn't come through with the initial promise made on page 10 of Dungeon #125 where it states: "Drop by today to download Age of Worms Overload, a free PDF compilation of supplementary material to help Age of Worms Dungeon Masters get the most out of their campaigns."
I'm starting Age of Worms next week. One of my PCs is an elven monk, and we can't give him a decent character background because the Twilight Monastery hasn't been covered yet. So yes, I'm a bit frustrated.
As far as this free download goes, yeah, its great, but if paizo decided to publish the campaign overload in a separate issue at the regular magazine price, I'd still buy it, because I feel Age of Worms is that good. As a DM, I'm pleased with both adventures in 124 and 125 and I really hope my players will enjoy it. But in order for a player to enjoy a campaign, he has to feel like his character is part of the campaign world, and for the elven monk I can't deliver that satisfaction.
However, getting back to both Eric and Jeremy; they've made replies to our complaints, and they've been prompt about it.
As a customer though, I feel I have a right to voice a complaint. It's part of business. I'm confident that paizo won't make the same mistake in future campaign settings for Dungeon magazine. These guys are professionals and they listen and respond to customer issues. You can't expect anything more out of a company.
Lastly, my punctuation in this post really sucks! :P
I'm starting Age of Worms next week. One of my PCs is an elven monk, and we can't give him a decent character background because the Twilight Monastery hasn't been covered yet. So yes, I'm a bit frustrated.
Erik leaked the Twilight Monastery info to the boards a few weeks ago. Here's a repost:
The Twilight Monastery
About two hours north of Diamond Lake, a towering crag called the Griffon's Roost casts a dark shadow over the muddy road to Elmshire. From a perch hundreds of feet above looms the cat-infested Twilight Monastery, a three-towered monument to an obscure philosophy of the Distant West. Two score monks dwell within the monastery, dedicating themselves to a litany of exercises meant to perfect the body and spirit. The secretive monks hold dusk as the holiest of hours, and sonorous chants emit from the Twilight Monastery's central courtyard when the night sky appears in the heavens.
Foremost among the monks is Izenfen the Occluded, a peerless masked combatant thought to be one of the wisest figures in the hills. Travelers frequently seek her council, but most leave Diamond Lake without ever having gained access to the Twilight Monastery, for Izenfen deigns to speak with only a handful of pilgrims foretold to her via the agency of the night sky and an immense mirrored lens called the Censer of Symmetry. The Censer, which dominates the monastery's central courtyard, grants any who gaze upon it a +10 bonus on Profession (astrologer) checks made during a clear night. Junior monks polish its smooth surface throughout the day, and the whole of the order is prepared to defend it with their lives.
When word of the Censer's predictive prowess spread to the miners of Diamond Lake 20 years ago, a desperate contingent petitioned Izenfen to predict the location of the richest unclaimed local ore deposits, appealing to her compassion with tales of starving children and dangerously unpaid debts. The masked mistress of the Twilight Monastery rebuffed their pleas, triggering the miners' contingency plan—an ill-fated invasion of the monks' compound that left seven miners dead. Only a single member of the order perished—Imonoth, Izenfen's beloved daughter.
Immediately thereafter, Izenfen gathered a cadre of stealth assassins from the ranks of her best warriors, and silently set them upon the surviving invaders who still milked wounds in the petty shacks along Diamond Lake's waterfront. At an annual celebration called Darkstar's Kiss, the monks of the Twilight Monastery recite from memory the names of all fifteen miners murdered on that night, reminding themselves to always remain vigilant to the encroachment of outsiders. Rumors suggest that Izenfen's masked silent killers remain active to this day, citing the disappearance or mysterious deaths of nearly a dozen political enemies within the town.
Although the monks of the Twilight Monastery keep mostly to themselves and desire only to lead lives of undisturbed contemplation, they frequently appear on the streets of Diamond Lake to reprovision or to engage in the trade of kalamanthis, a rare psychotropic plant grown regionally only on the slopes of the Griffon's Roost. Proceeds from this trade account for all of the monastery's activities, but initiates of the order are forbidden from taking it in all but the most controlled ritual circumstances. Kalamanthis is popular among all classes of Diamond Lake, but the real business is centered in the nearby Free City. Potential buyers frequently meet with elder monks in a secluded corner of Lazare's House along the Vein's central square to arrange payment and distribution to the neighboring metropolis. Both the wagons loaded with kalamanthis and the returning coaches loaded with city coin go unmolested in Diamond Lake, for all fear Izenfen's relentless invisible killers.
It's not free. I'm sure there's no way to get you to see this point if the posts already haven't done it, but I'm not sure why folks keep repeating it.
I guess I won't, because the fact of the matter is that I paid for a subscription that was to deliver a magazine once a month with a set amount of material. They have done just that. The magazine stands on its own and has EVERYTHING that I need to complete the campaign. This "Overload" is just that, all the EXTRAs, AKA "bonus" material that did not make the cut. You know, the the extras that come on DVDs these days. You don't need it to watch, enjoy and understand the movie. It just makes it that much more enjoyable. But in the case of this magazine, it is totally not expected. I think all this online stuff is AWESOME that they are providing. The suppliments, the message boards, etc. But none of it is required with my subscription. So it is all gravy.
In a nutshell, that is why it is "FREE", because I already got what I paid for.
Also, it is okay for people to use their own imagination instead of requiring the assistance from the publishers. I had a monk in my party that came from the Twilight monastery and I was able to create his background quite easily without the aid of Erik and company. We have been playing for over a month without any complaints and loving every minute of it. However, I was pleasantly surprised when Erik posted the details, because then we just worked it in. No problems, just more gravy.
Final note: I agree with the fact that its okay for people to complain about something because it is the only way that we can improve, as long as it is constructive criticism. It just accentuates my point on how amazing it is that you can directly communicate with the publishers, editors, writers of Dungeon magazine in such a one to one forum.
Okay, I'm done. Time for me to go have a turkey dinner so that I don't let all this gravy go to waste. ;)
I'm not trying to argue about it one way or another, all I can say is that as someone who is currently running the adventures having the material would be very helpfu. Unfortunatly it's time sensative and if it doesn't come out when they said it would and by the time I've finished the scenario, it becomes almost worthless to me.
I look to Dungeon sometimes as one tool to help me run my game, people can say I'm right or wrong and that doesn't matter to me, all that matters to me personally is how good of a tool it is for me.
Well, the end of this week must be about done in the US by now, and still a no show :-( Freebe or not, this has gone on way too long for me, I'd prefer someone just got out whatever is done, and left the rest for a "part 2". In fact, I'd really prefer that was done a couple of weeks back, as like some others here, I'm trying to plan ahead for my campaign, so anything new is better than nothing...
Oh well, I can only hope someone is hunkered down getting the thing out as I type...?
This post has made for a fascinating study in inter-personal conflict. I’ve decided to no longer take sides, but to step back and try to understand what could cause such an un-winnable and circular argument. At the risk of being too simple, I’ve divided the argument into two sides: Apples and Oranges. My perception of what motivates each side is below. Please correct me if I’m way off base. (Sorry for the length, but I was trying to give each side a thorough treatment.)
Piazo made a promise to deliver background campaign material. One promise was made in issue #124, which indicated the material would be in issue #125. A second promise was made in issue #125, which said we could download the material “today.” Where Apples and Oranges diverge is in the expectation created by those promises.
To Apples, the promises are binding agreements, and Piazo owes its customers the background material. To not deliver would be false advertising. Especially in those cases where customers purchased #125 with the specific expectation of background material. They feel they have been “damaged,” in the legal sense, and have a right to be made whole. This is why they do not perceive the Overload as “free,” but rather something owed to them. Because they are the damaged party, they also feel within their rights to voice their complaints, both about the material not being printed, and the delay in its delivery. They understand that others want to support Piazo without question, but they see little point to this, as only critical feedback can lead to improvement. Being chastised for voicing their complaints is offensive to them, as is having their legitimate issues reduced to the label of “whining.”
Oranges believe that the promises are not binding agreements, but more like “giving someone your word.” They are satisfied that Piazo is staying true to their word. They believe that a less honorable company could have easily cancelled the article without owing its customers anything. This is why they perceive the Overload as “free” and are grateful to be getting it at all. They feel that Piazo’s honorable effort should be recognized and respected. They believe that patience will result in a better quality product. They understand people’s right to complain, but, in this case, see little point to it, since complaining will not improve the outcome, and could cause harm to either this or future free releases. For this reason, they feel the need to police the complaints and corect any perceived negativity. They are offended by being chastised for displaying patience and understanding, and at having their well-meaning efforts reduced to the label of “defending Piazo.”
The funny thing is, I agree 100% with everything above, on both sides. Personally, I happen to fall in the Orange camp, but I completely understand where the Apples are coming from, and, honestly, they may have the better case. But neither side is “wrong,” and, like Jeremy said, we shouldn’t attack each other over it. Hope you found this interesting!
Piazo
It's PAIZO.
Well its a new week. They should probably update the Overload link on the front-page again. Not trying to be an arse, just pointing that out.
I'm holding out hope that the update will say "Click Here To Download." ;-)
Apples and Oranges...hmmmm...See, I find myself in the Bananas camp...When it shows up it shows up. I'm sure it will be good, and I'll get it when it is available...I'm in no rush...
I must be bananas.
ASEO out
OK, Alright. It's late (again) ;-) Whatever!
Just answer me this: should I go ahead start the new Harry Potter *now* or is the AoW reading material due to be posted immanently?
Smiles,
C.
I think they should release a statement like this:
*mischievious grin*
"There's been a bit of controversy and complaints over the release date of the Overload pdf ; So we've decided never to make any free pdfs available ever again, for as long as we shall live. This way, we can't ever upset our loyal fans by missing a target date again. We're going to cancel the other 10 Age of Worms pdfs that we had planned, along with all the cool maps, statistics, and artwork we were going to create for you later this year. It'll be less work for us, and our loyal fans need not fear being disappointed by a two week delay ever again."
I bet the delay is just to fuel posts on this thread to see if it can overcome the post count on my 'Failed Wil Save' thread ;-)
ASEO out
In a buisness envirement you don't promise your customers something and not deliver and untill they actualy post SOMETHING that's what they are doing. I'm running my 3rd AOW game very soon so if they delay any longer it thanks for nothing but an empty promise--the material's great but useless. This reminds me of that verse in the song "Ironic"--
"It's like a free ride when you're already late".
I think they should release a statement like this:
*mischievious grin*
"There's been a bit of controversy and complaints over the release date of the Overload pdf ; So we've decided never to make any free pdfs available ever again, for as long as we shall live. This way, we can't ever upset our loyal fans by missing a target date again. We're going to cancel the other 10 Age of Worms pdfs that we had planned, along with all the cool maps, statistics, and artwork we were going to create for you later this year. It'll be less work for us, and our loyal fans need not fear being disappointed by a two week delay ever again."
That would be really cool! Then I could ask for a refund on the remainder of my subscription and put that money and all future money I would have spent on Dungeon towards my bills. :D
*bored smirk*
Luckily, the Paizo staff doesn't run their magazine like an indignant FLGS owner who runs himself out of business because people came into his store and hurt his feelings. :(
In short: Rah-rah Paizo! You can do eet! And: It's not free.
I bet the delay is just to fuel posts on this thread to see if it can overcome the post count on my 'Failed Wil Save' thread ;-)
By all that's holy, please don't drive down that road.
I bet the delay is just to fuel posts on this thread to see if it can overcome the post count on my 'Failed Wil Save' thread ;-)By all that's holy, please don't drive down that road.
Too Late! We are almost half way there and going strong ;-)
ASEO out
I am wondering how long we will run with this thread.
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I am wondering how long we will run with this thread.
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Look at it from the point of view of Paizo. Every Monday gives new hope to their promise:Current ETA is "sometime this week".
I am wondering how long we will run with this thread.
Rooster
See the 'Failed Wil Save' thread. Well over twice this long and people still wouldn't call it quits :/
Later all :)
Jack
oooh, lets make up our own Forum Overload and publish it as a free pdf until the real one comes out.
any takers?
I am wondering how long we will run with this thread.
RoosterSee the 'Failed Wil Save' thread. Well over twice this long and people still wouldn't call it quits :/
Later all :)
Jack
BTW Erik, I found the info on the Bronzewood Lodge and the Twilight Mon very helpful, thank you and all of your staff for keeping DnD alive. I hope to see many new and wonderful adventures in the future.
I wonder if Overload will come out before I get #126? That means before this Saturday.
Peace and smiles :)
j.
(Sam Kinison Voice ON) AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH! WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH! SAY IT!!! SAY IT!!!! (Sam Kinison Voice OFF)
Sorry... someone had to do that to break the tension in here. :-)
I'm starting Age of Worms next week. One of my PCs is an elven monk, and we can't give him a decent character background because the Twilight Monastery hasn't been covered yet. So yes, I'm a bit frustrated.
Erik leaked the Twilight Monastery info to the boards a few weeks ago. Here's a repost:
The Twilight Monastery
About two hours north of Diamond Lake, a towering crag called the Griffon's Roost casts a dark shadow over the muddy road to Elmshire. From a perch hundreds of feet above looms the cat-infested Twilight Monastery, a three-towered monument to an obscure philosophy of the Distant West. Two score monks dwell within the monastery, dedicating themselves to a litany of exercises meant to perfect the body and spirit. The secretive monks hold dusk as the holiest of hours, and sonorous chants emit from the Twilight Monastery's central courtyard when the night sky appears in the heavens.
Foremost among the monks is Izenfen the Occluded, a peerless masked combatant thought to be one of the wisest figures in the hills. Travelers frequently seek her council, but most leave Diamond Lake without ever having gained access to the Twilight Monastery, for Izenfen deigns to speak with only a handful of pilgrims foretold to her via the agency of the night sky and an immense mirrored lens called the Censer of Symmetry. The Censer, which dominates the monastery's central courtyard, grants any who gaze upon it a +10 bonus on Profession (astrologer) checks made during a clear night. Junior monks polish its smooth surface throughout the day, and the whole of the order is prepared to defend it with their lives.
When word of the Censer's predictive prowess spread to the miners of Diamond Lake 20 years ago, a desperate contingent petitioned Izenfen to predict the location of the richest unclaimed local ore deposits, appealing to her compassion with tales of starving children and dangerously unpaid debts. The masked mistress of the Twilight Monastery rebuffed their pleas, triggering...
Thanks much Phil, where's the Bronzewood Lodge stuff?
In a buisness envirement you don't promise your customers something and not deliver and untill they actualy post SOMETHING that's what they are doing. I'm running my 3rd AOW game very soon so if they delay any longer it thanks for nothing but an empty promise--the material's great but useless. This reminds me of that verse in the song "Ironic"--
"It's like a free ride when you're already late".
Ah yes, but we live in an imperfect world. You should see Fantasy Flight Games release schedule for their Midnight d20 products, I don't know which end is up with that deal. But I buy the stuff because I like setting, it's just that I don't really follow their schedule anymore because it's mighty unreliable.
FF Games got me used to disappointment I guess. Sometimes businesses screw up a little- sometimes a bit more. The important thing is that the business acknowledges the screw up, which is what paizo has done. Cheers man!
I bet the delay is just to fuel posts on this thread to see if it can overcome the post count on my 'Failed Wil Save' thread ;-)
By all that's holy, please don't drive down that road.Too Late! We are almost half way there and going strong ;-)
Resist, ASEO, resist! Taking off-ramps into the Abyss for kicks... not good! Not unless you're packing a +8 Holy Avenger and some Holy Hand Grenades, that is! ;-)
I am wondering how long we will run with this thread.
Until everyone is either dead or too maimed to type. That's my guess. ;-)
It's PAIZO.
Thanks for correcting my silly error. I don't know when my spelling circuitry re-wired itself. Scoot over Bananas, I'm moving in!
On a completely different note: Does anyone recall reading whether Overload will contain any further history about Diamond Lake? I'm working up a timeline of the town to assist with creating character histories.
Chief Creative Officer, Publisher
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Last night I (finally) completed the complete campaign outline section of the Overload document, which was the main thing holding up the release of Age of Worms Overload. I need to spend about four more hours on it writing up the Cairn Hills and the Cult of the Green Lady, and from there it goes to our fine layout people, who will make it pretty. From there it goes to Wizards of the Coast for a quick look-see approval, and then to you guys.
I apologize again for the delay. Things have been crazy lately, and I've been working as fast as I can. I will keep everyone updated on where we stand as we churn through the various remaining parts until it's in your hands.
Thanks again for everyone's patience.
--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon
Last night I (finally) completed the complete campaign outline section of the Overload document, which was the main thing holding up the release of Age of Worms Overload. I need to spend about four more hours on it writing up the Cairn Hills and the Cult of the Green Lady, and from there it goes to our fine layout people, who will make it pretty. From there it goes to Wizards of the Coast for a quick look-see approval, and then to you guys.
I apologize again for the delay. Things have been crazy lately, and I've been working as fast as I can. I will keep everyone updated on where we stand as we churn through the various remaining parts until it's in your hands.
Thanks again for everyone's patience.
--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon
Personally, I could have gotten along with just the adventure outlines. It's one thing to tell DMs to use their imagination and create backgrounds for stuff like the Bronzewood andf the Monastery by themselves. I can do that...no problem. NPC histories? I can do that as well. But adventurers have a tendency to "go off the map" and throw a monkeywrench into the works. The problem with the "Adventure Path" idea (at least as it stands now with AoW) is that if I have to "wing it" because of something they've done, it's entirely possible that the entire plot gets thrown out of whack. I'm as far as the blurb for the 3rd installment and there are already two instances in which the progression of the story would have been screwed up if my characters and I had gone with our original plans.
...and no, I'm not going to wait until all 12 are out to get started.
Last night I (finally) completed the complete campaign outline section of the Overload document, which was the main thing holding up the release of Age of Worms Overload.
Yay! Thanks, Erik. I'm sure it will have been worth the wait.
Last night I (finally) completed the complete campaign outline section of the Overload document, which was the main thing holding up the release of Age of Worms Overload. I need to spend about four more hours on it writing up the Cairn Hills and the Cult of the Green Lady, and from there it goes to our fine layout people, who will make it pretty. From there it goes to Wizards of the Coast for a quick look-see approval, and then to you guys.
I apologize again for the delay. Things have been crazy lately, and I've been working as fast as I can. I will keep everyone updated on where we stand as we churn through the various remaining parts until it's in your hands.
Thanks again for everyone's patience.
--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon
Hey Erik-
No problem. Thank you very much for your communication with us customers as well as your hard work. Keep up the good work man! Cheers!All the best-
GG