Transferring settlement leadership


Pathfinder Online

Goblinworks Executive Founder

Topic says it all. Not parting with my accounts, just resigning from my company which happens to control a settlement.

I’m auctioning total control of my player settlement by making the lucky RL auction winner its new leader.

https://cryptothrift.com/auctions/video-games-digital-goods/pathfinder-onli ne-player-settlement-96485/

Various individuals have been begging me (or threatening me) to do this for months now.

Note, I won’t be checking emails, or forum responses, because this crowd tends to waste A LOT of time and energy trolling.

So I apologize in advance to the rational, reasonable bidders. I will caution bidders not to take running a settlement lightly.

If you don’t already have a few dozen people willing to follow you to your new home, don’t expect them to fall from the sky later.

Goblin Squad Member

The leadership is tied to the email address of the primary account. I've heard of GW adding additional leaders at the request of the primary account, and there is an ingame tool for settlement management that adds a leader. It will be interesting to know if you can sell the leadership without the account. Hopefully you won't mind letting the community know how it works out?

Grand Lodge Goblin Squad Member

From my experience:
Adding new leaders is no problem. You just promote them with the GUI - similar to any other role you promote someone to.
Demotion on the other hand seems protected. I gave my daughters character a (temp) promotion to ensure full access to all vaults and couldn't revert it afterwards anymore. A message comes up that she has protected status.
I haven't yet tried leaving the company if there are multiple leaders.

Goblin Squad Member

Thod wrote:
Demotion on the other hand seems protected. I gave my daughters character a (temp) promotion to ensure full access to all vaults and couldn't revert it afterwards anymore. A message comes up that she has protected status.

Once someone is made a leader, they can only remove that themselves by demoting their own character or resigning.

Grand Lodge Goblin Squad Member

Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
Once someone is made a leader, they can only remove that themselves by demoting their own character or resigning.

That is useful information to know. Will check it out (on my daughters account) later.

Goblin Squad Member

You are selling a settlement which was gifted to your COMPANY for real life money because you left your company?

that's pretty nasty...

Goblin Squad Member

Calidor Cruciatus wrote:

You are selling a settlement which was gifted to your COMPANY for real life money because you left your company?

that's pretty nasty...

I'd say it's no more nasty than selling a pioneer account that cost $100 and included $300 of PDFs, 4 months of game time and a few extras for over $400 (when the PDFs and the 4 months is already used up.

Goblin Squad Member

Sure it is Bludd. The Settlements were GRANTED to specific accounts by GW. Only 33 people were given this luxury benefit. GW should reassign it to an active player/settlement. Nobody should benefit monetarily because of that.

Sell your account for all you want. Those were all fair game and ANYONE could have bought a Kickstarter package. Only 33 people got settlements and those were picked by GW...

Goblin Squad Member

Power of choice, you don't have to like it, but nothing here should give you and anyone else the sense of authority of muck up someone's thread.

Besides, GW may have granted them the settlements, but it was we the players that voted for them to have it. So where should the blame actually lay?

Soon enough other players can seek to claim their own settlements once the mechanics are in place. And eventually maybe even overthrow current leaders.

Goblin Squad Member

I might be mistaken, but I thought players voted to grant settlements to companies or nations (ie. Xelias)not individual player accounts. That's a pretty big distinction in my opinion.

The way the OP is written it sounds like he is leaving his company which currently owns the settlement.

Goblin Squad Member

The "hands off" attitude to activities that effectively can often amount to RMT is interesting but besides the point - if GW is Ok with this type of trading a settlement it is not our place to argue about here, take it up with GW directly.

I am however interested to see if it is bought by one of the big power blocs, by an existing player from the settlement or someone else entirely. I do hope the new buyer maintains the Erastil spin as that was one of the more interesting features of this community.

Goblin Squad Member

Perhaps Andius will buy it, I hear he is writing for Goonswarm, and maybe he can convince them to set up a CE settlement. ;-)

Goblinworks Executive Founder

FYI - approximately 11 hours remaining on the auction. One bidder, and who knows how many lurkers waiting till the final minute (155 views).

https://cryptothrift.com/auctions/video-games-digital-goods/pathfinder-onli ne-player-settlement-96485/

I think a public auction of a settlement is a 1st for PFO (and probably not a last).

Goblinworks Executive Founder

BTW, just noticed that wordwrap on Paizo is borking my URL with an extra space because it's too long (thanks Paizo). Here's the tiny, working version of it.

http://tinyurl.com/lmxchu8

Goblin Squad Member

Here's Scorchbark's link properly formatted.

Pathfinder Online Player Settlement


Bluddwolf wrote:
Perhaps Andius will buy it, I hear he is writing for Goonswarm, and maybe he can convince them to set up a CE settlement. ;-)

I have no affiliation with the actual organization of Goonswarm and no intention to pursue one atm. I've just been invited to write some articles for a site owned by them.

Goblin Squad Member

Tharak Venethorn wrote:
Bluddwolf wrote:
Perhaps Andius will buy it, I hear he is writing for Goonswarm, and maybe he can convince them to set up a CE settlement. ;-)
I have no affiliation with the actual organization of Goonswarm and no intention to pursue one atm. I've just been invited to write some articles for a site owned by them.

I was just having a little "tongue-in-cheek" fun. As much as some here say they wouldn't care in Goons came to PFO, I'm certain they actually would if they brought the naked-noob-zerg.

Although I have discovered several, far worse groups than Goons over at Albion Online forums. That game's forums are off the hook.


They sound a lot like the Darkfall forums. Let's just say on the Darkfall forums I always say exactly what I mean to say in the exact words I want to use and I've never once received a warning not was any of my language censored. I like having that but unfortunately Albion's gameplay looks substantially less appealing to me than Star Citizen, Life is Feudal, and Crowfall. I might still check it out when it releases though.

Goblin Squad Member

1 person marked this as a favorite.
Tharak Venethorn wrote:
Star Citizen, Life is Feudal, and Crowfall. I might still check it out when it releases though.

I have SC account, but waiting until release. I'm not sure about the real money for ships business model. The game really comes off as P2W to me.

LiF, waiting for the MMO version. I've gotten burnt out re rolling toons every time the owners of the servers decide to wipe.

Crowfall, looks like the true next generation (conceptually) replacement for the theme park MMO. Ryan has said in many interviews that the TP MMO will be replaced by Open World PVP focused Sandbox MMOs. He was likely correct in that belief, unfortunately PFO is not being developed to sufficiently to align with the true meaning of those attributes. It is not nearly PVP focused enough and has too many controls and limitations to be a sandbox (even in its most superficial definition).

The real game I'm looking forward to is, Sword Coast Legends.


I see SC this way. Everything being sold for $ will be available in-game as well. Some people will get a headstart because of ships they own. Sure.

But in titles that you can't buy in-game items for real world money what will happen is a few people that are unemployed will pull drastically ahead of everyone anyway.

At least in this case, with money, what they are contributing goes to further benefit the continued development of the game, where letting people poopsock their way to the top benefits nobody who doesn't poopsock.

But yeah. It's a waiting game with any of the good upcoming titles. In the meantime I'm just having fun building up my skills and connections in other titles.

Goblin Squad Member

Bluddwolf wrote:


I was just having a little "tongue-in-cheek" fun. As much as some here say they wouldn't care in Goons came to PFO, I'm certain they actually would if they brought the naked-noob-zerg.

The naked-noob-zerg has not been a Goon thing for a long long time. Talking up the BoB war and naked-noob-zerg for Goons is a bit like the English talking about the glorious days of the Raj and the British Empire where the sun never set, fuzzy nostalgia of a bygone age.

Goons and CFC with all the renters and moon goo and market manipulation have pretty much evolved into an even bigger variant of the old dev-favored control freaks BoB who they despised. CFC now fight there battles in the forums and in direct meetings with the CCP management where they definitely get a lot of attention, almost never in the game itself.

The true battles for CFC involve torpedoing games changes that will effect their current doctrines and fleets whilst pushing for changes that will disadvantage PL or the Russians or whoever their current enemy may be. They may occasionally fight a "big SOV battle" but not because they need to - it is purely for recruitment PR and to keep their playerbase from getting too bored and disgruntled.

The group in PFO closest to the current day Goons in terms of day to day ops, relationship to their playerbase and long-term aspirations is probably Brighthaven.

Goblin Squad Member

Neadenil Edam wrote:
Bluddwolf wrote:


I was just having a little "tongue-in-cheek" fun. As much as some here say they wouldn't care in Goons came to PFO, I'm certain they actually would if they brought the naked-noob-zerg.

The naked-noob-zerg has not been a Goon thing for a long long time. Talking up the BoB war and naked-noob-zerg for Goons is a bit like the English talking about the glorious days of the Raj and the British Empire where the sun never set, fuzzy nostalgia of a bygone age.

Goons and CFC with all the renters and moon goo and market manipulation have pretty much evolved into an even bigger variant of the old dev-favored control freaks BoB who they despised. CFC now fight there battles in the forums and in direct meetings with the CCP management where they definitely get a lot of attention, almost never in the game itself.

The true battles for CFC involve torpedoing games changes that will effect their current doctrines and fleets whilst pushing for changes that will disadvantage PL or the Russians or whoever their current enemy may be. They may occasionally fight a "big SOV battle" but not because they need to - it is purely for recruitment PR and to keep their playerbase from getting too bored and disgruntled.

The group in PFO closest to the current day Goons in terms of day to day ops, relationship to their playerbase and long-term aspirations is probably Brighthaven.

The tactic might be obsolete for EvE, not so here in PFO. Imagine the havoc 30 naked noobs in a blob would produce.

But, as I said, I was just joking. Goons have their eyes on Crowfall and they will likely make a major showing of it.

Goblin Squad Member

Bluddwolf wrote:


The tactic might be obsolete for EvE, not so here in PFO. Imagine the havoc 30 naked noobs in a blob would produce.

But, as I said, I was just joking. Goons have their eyes on Crowfall and they will likely make a major showing of it.

Current anecdotal reports from the recent tower squabbles are that one T2 combat focused character can hold off 4 to 5 T1 relatively new players quite easily.

Though that result may be an artifact of the inexperience of the T1 players rather than lack of skills and gear.

Community / Forums / Paizo / Licensed Products / Digital Games / Pathfinder Online / Transferring settlement leadership All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.
Recent threads in Pathfinder Online