Ferocious Mount natural attack stacking?


Rules Questions

Lantern Lodge

So, I'm honestly at a lost here

Hypothetical situation:

I get the Ferocious Mount, Greater rage power, as found in spoiler 1. I then get the Animal Fury, Beast Totem: Lesser, and Fiend Totem: Lesser which grants me a bite attack, two claw attacks, and a gore attack respectfully while raging.

I'm assuming that my mount will also gain those attacks while raging. What situation is correct?

Regular horse has 1 bite and 2 hoof attacks. Rage powers grant it 1 bite, two claw, and 1 gore while raging.

Does it have 2 bites, two claw, 2 hoof, and 1 gore attack while raging? Or does it have 1 bite, two claw, 2 hoof, and 1 gore attack while raging?

Ferocious Mount: Greater

Spoiler:
Benefit: While raging and mounted, the barbarian’s mount gains the benefits of any rage powers that are constant in effect when the barbarian is raging. It does not gain the benefit of any rage powers that require actions to activate, even if they are free actions.

Animal Fury

Spoiler:
Benefit: While raging, the barbarian gains a bite attack. If used as part of a full attack action, the bite attack is made at the barbarian's full base attack bonus –5. If the bite hits, it deals 1d4 points of damage (assuming the barbarian is Medium; 1d3 points of damage if Small) plus half the barbarian's Strength modifier. A barbarian can make a bite attack as part of the action to maintain or break free from a grapple. This attack is resolved before the grapple check is made. If the bite attack hits, any grapple checks made by the barbarian against the target this round are at a +2 bonus.

Beast Totem: Lesser

Spoiler:
Benefit: While raging, the barbarian gains two claw attacks. These attacks are considered primary attacks and are made at the barbarian’s full base attack bonus. The claws deal 1d6 points of slashing damage (1d4 if Small) plus the barbarian’s Strength modifier.

Fiend Totem: Lesser

Spoiler:
Benefit: While raging, the barbarian grows a pair of large horns, gaining a gore attack. This attack is a primary attack (unless she is also attacking with weapons, in which case it is a secondary attack) and is made at the barbarian’s full base attack bonus (–5 if it is a secondary attack). The gore attack deals 1d8 points of piercing damage (1d6 if Small) plus the barbarian’s Strength modifier (1/2 if it is a secondary attack).


First, you cannot have te beast totem and fiend totem rage powers.

The horse would use the best natural attack for the limb. If you went fiend totem it would have hoof hoof bite gore and be a spikey armadillo horse.

Lantern Lodge

So no multiple attacks per limb? Is there any place where that is said and made RAW? Or just a generally accepted ruling from GM's?

(Thanks for catching the totem thing, new to barbarian)


Natural Attacks wrote:
You can make attacks with natural weapons in combination with attacks made with a melee weapon and unarmed strikes, so long as a different limb is used for each attack. For example, you cannot make a claw attack and also use that hand to make attacks with a longsword. When you make additional attacks in this way, all of your natural attacks are treated as secondary natural attacks, using your base attack bonus minus 5 and adding only 1/2 of your Strength modifier on damage rolls. Feats such as Two-Weapon Fighting and Multiattack can reduce these penalties.

this page last paragraph of "natural attacks"

Lantern Lodge

Thats when your using a manufactured weapon and natural attacks though, not just natural attacks.

If I took animal ferocity rage power, and had a boar, would it be able to gore and bite, even though they both use the "head" limb?

If I had a horse, would two of it's legs be hoof attacks and two of it's legs claw attacks? (It's state by Dev's that claw attacks are typically hand attacks, except in cases like the lion where it's the front two legs. The horse I have imagined would be using it's two front feet for claws and it's back two legs for hoof attacks).

No agenda here, though, just trying to figure out what I can and cannot get away with on a mount focused barbarian. Best so far I can come up with is a medium boar with Gore/bite/2 claws or a large wolf with bite/2 claws (Large is good for the trampling I plan to do).

As a side note, overrun says "As a standard action, taken during your move or as part of a charge, you can attempt to overrun your target, moving through its square." Can I overrun through someone while charging someone else? How about trample through someone while charging someone else?

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