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I would rather not have an Ultimate Class book. That to me would mean a glut of classes to a system that is already well balanced with the amount of books put out a year along with the amount of information such as classes, prestige classes, and races. An Ultimate Race guide is fine as the Bestiaries give us a goodly amount of them already and does not upset the balance.
I realize this book is about EQUIPMENT. However will it, in any detail, deal with say, special materials? You know something other than Mithril, Admantine, Cold Iron, etc?
Yes.
Call me a negative Nathaniel if you must, but since when are animal companions and mounts considered "equipment?"
Since the game and its predecessors listed them in the Equipment chapter. So, at least as far back as 1st edition AD&D.
Hallelujah, new special materials!
Come ooooon, show me skymetals.
Now all we need is an "Ultimate Classes" book that gives us a system to create are own classes.
Yes, please! I have a Word document called "The Classless Pathfinder System". It was a free download from a site that I can't recall and I can't find the names of any authors on it. However, from what I read of it I think it would make an interesting jumping off point toward an "Ultimate Classes" book. I loved 2e's "Skills and Powers" books, but they were so borked they were almost unplayable (and I'm a guy who doesn't worry about that stuff so much).
James Jacobs on the likelihood of a build-your-own-class book:
Hey James.
The build your own race section in the upcoming Advanced Race Guide has me thinking. Is it possible that you guys come out with a Tool kit type book filled with guidelines of 'How to Build X'...like thinga like Classes, Achetypes, PrCs, etc?
Or could we see those type of things in some future products?
Unlikely.
None of our current game components are built using a point-based system like you see with the Advanced Race Guide race builder. Retrofitting all the racial traits into a system like that was really complex, but we managed to pull it off in part thanks to our awesome designers and in part thanks to great feedback from the playtest, but also in LARGE part due to the fact that compared to something like classes, building a race is child's play. A class, for example, has twenty "levels of options", whereas a race only has one effective "level of options." Rebuilding the last 3 or so years-worth of class options into something that works as a class builder would take an extraordinary amount of time.
But perhaps more importantly... the class-based system is a huge part of the brand and identity of Pathifnder. It's actually VERY important to me that you be able to say "that's a wizard" and, regardless of the feats or spells or archetypes that wizard took, it's still a wizard.
A completely point-based class builder is essentially throwing out a class-based system in favor of a point-based system like GURPS or Champions. And while I do like building characters for those games... I don't like point-based character building for fantasy games at all.
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Good. I'm glad there will be no ultimate Classes book. That would be super hard to balance, and as James Jacobs mentioned it would basically turn pathfinder into a point based system. GMs can always create their own classless variants if they want, but I'm for one glad that pathfinder isn't going classless.
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The game is what it is. PF, like D&D before it, is a class-based system.
If you like point-based systems, just play GURPS or whatever your game of choice is and use the Pathfinder fluff.
As Freud might have said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
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Now all we need is an "Ultimate Classes" book that gives us a system to create are own classes.
What was that?
...oh, just Jason's head exploding...
...again.
Hmmm. If we ask for Ultimate Adventure Paths, would James' head explode?
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Hallelujah, new special materials!
Come ooooon, show me skymetals.
Not to disappoint you, but skymetals are part of Golarion and the Pathfinder RPG line of books assumes a setting neutral stance. That said, one skymetal will be mentioned in Ultimate Equipment.
Stay tuned for more information on skymetals in our Golarion-focused products.
Will it be a sky metal that hasn't been statted up before?
Regarding my earlier post about the Pathfinder Classless rules, I believe they were designed by Kirth Gersen and some of his associates.
Hmmm. If we ask for Ultimate Adventure Paths, would James' head explode?Now all we need is an "Ultimate Classes" book that gives us a system to create are own classes.
What was that?
...oh, just Jason's head exploding...
...again.
Would those be adventure paths in a whole different universe that's very similar to the existing one but without all the backstory so new readers can jump in at "the beginning" without having to know the existing lore going back to the 1960s?
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And they should be very interesting special materials at that!
I look forward to that.
Adam and/or Sean,
If either of you can answer this: I was curious if these new materials would be suitable for something say like, bypassing epic level DR? Just as a starting point more than just a specific type/question.
I'm just trying to gauge if these materials will be anything like a certain Green Ronin product (IE Sovereign Materials in Advanced Game Master's Guide) or just something else.
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1,000,000,000,000 thank yous!
I absolutely cannot wait for this to arrive. Since the Alpha playtest, based on a weekly campaign, plus my monthly campaign, I believe I nearly used every item in the Core RuleBook. lol
And yeah, I can make up my own magic items, but PAIZO design is top shelf and full of win!
THANK YOU AGAIN!
Please send me a courtesy advance copy PDF! Thanks ;)
Through a combination of different factors my games tend towards a level range of 1st-10th. I love these kinds of books because it gives me plenty of fun items to equip both PCs and NPCs of those levels with.
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I am so incredibly excited for this book! I don't know who to thank for the Pathfinder line of fantasy RPG but if someone who does reads this, please give them my absolute and heartfelt appreciation. My most favorite things in fantasy are constructs and magic items. Pathfinder ALWAYS keeps me entertained. Best of luck with this book! Does anyone know if there will be augments (similar in function to the magic item compendium's augment crystals)?
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Hey there everybody! This is mainly for the Paizo peeps, but I've made a post about preemptive errata from books that have information no doubt pulled into Ultimate Equipment. Mainly to help avoid copy-paste errors, you can find the link here!
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I'll apologize first for being vague, but it's the best I can do. I don't think anyone counted exactly how many items are in the book. When I was helping build out the index I counted well over a thousand items in the wondrous items section alone. I didn't make a separate count of which were new.
I'll apologize first for being vague, but it's the best I can do. I don't think anyone counted exactly how many items are in the book. When I was helping build out the index I counted well over a thousand items in the wondrous items section alone. I didn't make a separate count of which were new.
Sounds like by the end you were all weeping with joy that it was finally done!
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I'll apologize first for being vague, but it's the best I can do. I don't think anyone counted exactly how many items are in the book. When I was helping build out the index I counted well over a thousand items in the wondrous items section alone. I didn't make a separate count of which were new.Sounds like by the end you were all weeping with joy that it was finally done!
You would be correct. :D
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I was hoping this might have some items from Numeria, but it has been mentioned that it is world neutral so I am assuming not. I have always liked magic and technology, I think I was first introduced to the concept in FF3 on Super Nintendo and was thinking of running a campaign like that.
I love Final Fantasy 6 (US 3) actually playing through it again right now.
But as for Numeria, join me in hoping for some stuff in Campaign Setting: Artifacts and Legends which seems to be a bit of a companion book to this.
I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a lot of art in in it, then there would more room for the actual items.
Just a random thought I have had will this book have art in it and if so will it just be item pictures or will there be characters using items? Also will this book follow the rest of the line in having large picture/story chapter openers?
I seem to recall reading that there will be lots of art of the items in the book.
I love Final Fantasy 6 (US 3) actually playing through it again right now.
I was hoping this might have some items from Numeria, but it has been mentioned that it is world neutral so I am assuming not. I have always liked magic and technology, I think I was first introduced to the concept in FF3 on Super Nintendo and was thinking of running a campaign like that.
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Me too!I love Final Fantasy 6 (US 3) actually playing through it again right now.
I was hoping this might have some items from Numeria, but it has been mentioned that it is world neutral so I am assuming not. I have always liked magic and technology, I think I was first introduced to the concept in FF3 on Super Nintendo and was thinking of running a campaign like that.
Oh my gods yes!!! I wanna play, I wanna play
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Just a random thought I have had will this book have art in it and if so will it just be item pictures or will there be characters using items? Also will this book follow the rest of the line in having large picture/story chapter openers?I seem to recall reading that there will be lots of art of the items in the book.
There is an *astounding* amount of art. And an *astounding* number of items.
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Hmmm. If we ask for Ultimate Adventure Paths, would James' head explode?Now all we need is an "Ultimate Classes" book that gives us a system to create are own classes.
What was that?
...oh, just Jason's head exploding...
...again.
Yes.
But mostly because the idea of doing an entire Adventure Path that doesn't have any world flavor in it is so nonsensical.
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How about Ultimate Worlds? A book with tons of different settings? It wouldn't be all that large, just the size of the space needle...Yes.
But mostly because the idea of doing an entire Adventure Path that doesn't have any world flavor in it is so nonsensical.
We already did Ultimate World. Only we called it "Inner Sea World Guide" instead. Ha.
Well the Races book was marginally interesting...but this? Sorry, I have enough hard cover books I don't use without adding to the pile.So I'll be giving this a miss.
And as I'll be missing out on the NPC Codex as well it looks as if my RPG subscription will be getting a long term cancellation..
How about Ultimate Worlds? A book with tons of different settings? It wouldn't be all that large, just the size of the space needle...Yes.
But mostly because the idea of doing an entire Adventure Path that doesn't have any world flavor in it is so nonsensical.
I wouldn't want Ultimate Worlds, but an Ultimate World BUILDER.... I want SO bad.
While Advanced Races is the most interesting hardcover this year since it hasn't been done with all playable races before. I will be getting this one because I love magic item books even if it has items from the core book.
I would prefer a Psionics book or Advanced Players Guide 2 over most other hardcover books, well other then another Bestiary,I just can never get enough of those. I also would love hardcovers for the other continents of Golarion, the planets, and the Planes.
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Me too!I love Final Fantasy 6 (US 3) actually playing through it again right now.
I was hoping this might have some items from Numeria, but it has been mentioned that it is world neutral so I am assuming not. I have always liked magic and technology, I think I was first introduced to the concept in FF3 on Super Nintendo and was thinking of running a campaign like that.
If i lived near you I would be down to play that. I am in Colorado Springs and don't plan on going to VA anytime soon. Looks like a good game though.
As much as I love Paizo's products, I have to say that out of Ultimate Equipment, the NPC guide or the Races book (whatever they're called) only the Equipment guide has any appeal for me. And it more than makes up for any appeal the others are lacking for me!
Will this book have more firearms and/or firearm related gear?
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Mithral pots and pans! They're non-stick!
Durable darkwood switches for spanking naughty elflings! One will last their whole childhood!
There are some things that's very, very hard to forgive. But I'll try. Besides, turns out that darkwood is really good tinder.
Mithral pots and pans! They're non-stick!
LOL!
I really want this book.