FYI guys I probably can't post on Saturday, and not on Sunday until late.-
Thanks for letting us know! I'm sure we can wait if needed. In any EXTREME circumstance I'll bot you, but HIGHLY doubtful that it will come to that.
I guess the main thing I am saying is be kind to us Lawful Good types and don't put us into these moral dilemmas whenever possible.
Something that I had thought of myself. A lot of what alignment means, as with so many things, is up to the GM. But killing someone or thing that has surrendered at least raises alignment questions for good characters. And perhaps for anyone not evil.
You would expect Boudacia to be less worried about such things being Chaotic Neutral. However, that would be to conform to the rules of her alignment, which is the last thing she wants to do.
Alignments? Meh. Just sorta a guideline ... If I start to see things that I don't think your alignment would allow, I'll say something if I think it's warranted, but I'll give you a warning before I get to the point of changing alignments. I'm more of a 'character concept' follower - What reason would your character have for doing that? kind of thing, than so much as the alignment. Capisce?
By the way, so you all know, RL Tamlara let me know via facebook on Saturday that she was having some internet issues. Not sure when it would be straightened out.
Yeah, alignment is supposed to be a product of your actions, not the other way around.
Worth mentioning though that Gansu has the legalistic curse, so he has real non-RP problems if he breaks his word.
Yeah, alignment is supposed to be a product of your actions, not the other way around.
Worth mentioning though that Gansu has the legalistic curse, so he has real non-RP problems if he breaks his word.
Easiest way to solve that is just don't give your word. Let someone else in the group negotiate the terms of surrender. Aldhranhald would never promise life, he'd only ever promise a merciful death. Not the best negotiation tactic, but Aldhranhald is also the kind of elf who believes there are many ways to knowledge, and asking people is one of the least trustworthy sources, cause people lie. :)
I was in a game once where the Chaotic Neutral wizard promised a group of bandits that they would live if they surrendered, having no intention of keeping that promise. But I was playing a lawful good character and felt bound by this promise. This caused a big RP crisis in the game.
It made me appreciate the value of playing chaotic characters.
Gansu doesn't make promises lightly. But if someone else is negotiating he would feel bound by that promise too.
Now that Kessa is gone, we need a new...
Marching Order!
I propose the following:
It seems to me that we ought to have two different modes:
1. Checking for Traps. In this case Tamlara ought to be in front, with someone heavy just behind to support her.
Tamlara
Tank (either Gansu or Guiness)
Sama
Aldranhald
Other Tank
Boudacia and Wayne can be in bat form and occupy the same space as the second slot.
2. Getting Ready to Fight. In this case Tamlara doesn't need to be in front.
Tank (either Gansu or Guiness)
Tamlara
Sama
Other Tank
Aldranhald
How does that sound?
Sounds good to me. I think I'm ready to head COUNTER-CLOCKWISE down the stairs into zombie land!
It seems OK except one thing. Zombies can't be put to sleep. So if you want Boudacia to do anything I will have to be in human form, where I can employ burning hands.
Sounds good to me. I think I'm ready to head COUNTER-CLOCKWISE down the stairs into zombie land!
I'm glad you caught on to that counter-clockwise thing this time! :D
Zombies can't be put to sleep.
This is true, but how would Boudacia know this? She has not encountered Zombies before! And I have not noticed anyone pass a knowledge religion check TRAINED to get such info.
@Gansu, duly noted about others making promises they don't wish to keep. I'll keep that in mind. BTW, I really appreciate your role playing. I'm glad you joined our game. Same goes for BG and Sama, I'm really glad you came along for the ride here. :)
Also @Gansu, I'm totally fine with those marching orders. I feel touched that Aldhranhald has garnered one of the positions of greatest protection. :)
@Stormstrider, Regarding zombies and sleep... Check the game play thread. :)
Ummmm... I just realized that when Aldranahald uses one of his trained Knowledge skills to identify the abilities and weaknesses of monsters, he actually gets a +12 to that check, because Monster Lore allows him to add his Wisdom modifier in addition to everything else. So he get's +4 from Intel, +2 from ranks +3 because all Knowledge skills are considered class skills (due to the Knowledge Domain), and another +3 from Monster Lore... This means, if they are outside of combat, he could take 10 and get a 22... Not too shabby. :) I'll have to invest some ranks in more class skills at level up, which fits his back story perfectly anyway... Next will be knowledge planes, and knowledge religion for sure, since they will be needed.
Zombies can't be put to sleep.This is true, but how would Boudacia know this? She has not encountered Zombies before! And I have not noticed anyone pass a knowledge religion check TRAINED to get such info.
I have too encountered zombies.
In fact the very same zombies in the very same place, when I came down to scout last time.
They were not sleeping then and they are not sleeping now. And they have had nothing to do but trudge round and round in circles in a tedious fashion that is sure to put anything capable to sleep to sleep.
Pedantic forgetful bloody GM. Grumble.
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I have too encountered zombies.In fact the very same zombies in the very same place, when I came down to scout last time.
They were not sleeping then and they are not sleeping now. And they have had nothing to do but trudge round and round in circles in a tedious fashion that is sure to put anything capable to sleep to sleep.
Pedantic forgetful bloody GM. Grumble.
I have been trudging in a circle all day long myself "working" in my fabric-covered box.. I am not immune to sleep, but the coffee gives me a bonus on Will saves...
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What do you do for a living BG?
My guess is you work in a shop or something, pretending to be something cute.
Either that or you work in a bordello, pretending to be something cute.
You have fabric? My cubicle looks like a shower stall!
Customer service call center, taking inbound calls only.
At least I don't stoop so low ass to call people to annoy them!
And I HIGHLY recommend you NEVER give your ph # to JD By Ryder no matter how desperate you are for a car! They immediately sent me a text msg asking for more info, when I replied stop to unsubscribe they started calling me sometimes more than once a day, but I just ignored the 'unknown' number until the same number called me when I answered and practically screamed at the lady for calling me on a Sunday and told her to take me off the call list! Sorry Lady. At least they haven't called since.
Gamewise The entire party has been marching around and fighting and has not slept since the last time Boudacia saw the goblin zombies, so does that make the entire party immune to sleep? Duh, NO! So, Boudacia your logic fails big time.
Now, are these 'common' monsters that can be identified with an untrained knowledge religion check? Goblins are common. Zombies are relatively common. BUT? zombie goblins? I have been playing D&D for something close to 20 years. I don't recall EVER having seen zombie goblins before. Does that make them uncommon? To me, yes, but maybe the game system does not consider them uncommon? How does one determine the 'commonality' of a monster? So, you can see my dilemma to some degree. BG via facebook suggested the "Monster manual rarity line", but, Monster manual first suggest its from DnD, not Pathfinder, and I don't have that book and could not find a listing for such a thing on an internet search. I did download a PDF of the bestiary but of course it has no such thing. A ruling here needs to be mad for future knowledge checks at some point so I would appreciate any input from you all, before I can make a final call on that aspect.
That being said, I WILL ALWAYS REWARD A NATURAL TWENTY IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER!!! so, Aldhranhald knows everything about regular zombies and goblins and thus the combination thereof. Primarily: DR 5/slashing; Immune: undead traits.
@Gansu, ... I'm glad you joined our game. Same goes for BG and Sama... :)
My pleasure. :)
I feel touched that Aldhranhald has garnered one of the positions of greatest protection. :)
Aldranhald is built mostly as a knowledge guy, so I understand that his attacks aren't that great. But we do need to focus on getting you close enough that you can identify the creatures with that knowledge. Depending on the creature, that knowledge may be critical.
@BG: Stairs are not difficult terrain normally. They cost 2x normal movement to go up, but normal movement going down. We are probably okay, unless they also have that rubble all over them.
... BUT? zombie goblins?
Cast cursed earth and you'll see some! :)
Presumably a successful knowledge check would allow someone to understand that zombie is something that a dead body is made into and thus almost anything can be made into a zombie.
I have done zombie giants and zombie treants before in my home game. I did goblin ghouls once, but not goblin zombies.
Gamewise The entire party has been marching around and fighting and has not slept since the last time Boudacia saw the goblin zombies, so does that make the entire party immune to sleep? Duh, NO! So, Boudacia your logic fails big time.
There are two answers to this.
First, marching around and fighting are activities that will preclude sleep not promote it. You need to be awake to march [unless you are sleepwalking of course, but that is rare] and the noise and adrenaline surges involved in combat will make sleep impossible. Contrast this with monotonously trudging in circles...
Second, for those familiar with propositional logic, this is merely where the assumption introduced earlier is discharged.
What's going on? Not a single game post today? I know Tamlara just notified me that their electricity was out all weekend due to the hurricane, and she just got it back late tonight, so she will be posting some time tomorrow. I've been waiting to see what everybody is doing, but do I need to go ahead and roll initiatives? Not sure here ...
And Boudacia, ... Huhzuh whatsa? Propo what logic? Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about there. But after the combat and excitement, your all's adrenaline should have plummeted and so seems like you all should have been very, very, sleepy ... but no. And unless Aldhranhald actually shares the knowledge he knows/gained, the rest of the characters still don't know.
And besides, the zombies are mindless, so there is nothing monotonous about trudging in circles to them! HA! :P
I think we're just waiting to enter the room? We have a marching order and so it's a matter of figuring out if we're rolling initiative, or blasting zombies from surprise, or what?
Sorry guys if it was me... I went ahead and put everyone in order according to the latest marching order idea. I wasn't entirely sure where to put Boudacia so I put her in front of Sama but you could switch of you want.
And Boudacia, ... Huhzuh whatsa? Propo what logic? Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about there.
Propostional logic. From OED online:-
"proposition
NOUN
Logic A statement that expresses a concept that can be true or false."
You remember algebra from high school? Algebra allows you to do proofs that are true for all numbers.
Propostional, or formal, logic does the same thing with propositions. So you can, loosely speaking, do algebra with what follows logically.
Sound complicated? It is even worse.
And discharging an assumption is a valid tool from propositional logic. Used in a way that is total bullsh***.
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... I've been waiting to see what everybody is doing, but do I need to go ahead and roll initiatives? Not sure here ...
Stormstrider, I think we are waiting for you to determine how far we get down the steps before being detected and needing to roll initiative. I have been posting in the gameplay tab, and BG has mentioned several times that he has his Warhammer out...
Seem that way to me too.
okay! Sorry for my confusion! Initiatives here we come! :D
Since BG was the only the only one that bothered with a Stealth check I'm just going to go ahead and say no surprise round on either side. I did 'push' the party back a little further since it makes sense (at least to me) that initiative would start as soon as you could see each other.
Hello, all! I am officially back from hurricane purgatory. I can't really call it hell, it wasn't that bad for us. A few trees down, a few days without electricity. I did miss warm showers, though! And electronic devices had to be rationed, too. All told, it could have been much worse.
And the tanks go last! :)
BTW guys if the baddies block the entrance to the room I plan to attempt a bull rush. I will take AoOs but I can probably handle it.
Glad to hear you are all OK Tamlara.
Hey Stormstrider-Can I move into the square diagonally behind Tamlara, the one with just under half cut off by the column running up through the staircase that has a yellow and a green line running through it. What I want to is ready an action if any of the gombies move into the square in front of Tamlara to go burning hands. Without roasting Tamlara.
It seems fine by the rules to me, but it is up to you to say if I can go into a square that is only like 40% there. Sqares are 5' X 5' and 40% of that is oodles of room for a person.
Boudacia, If I understand your question correctly, - I have moved your icon on the grid and placed a 15 ft cone template there, second cone next to the insert as well - if that is what you want, the answer is yes. Looks like a good plan to me.
Thanks Stormstrider. That is exactly what I intended.
I'm just glad I remembered to move my mini this time! That does sound like a good plan, though. 'Roasted Tamlara with Potatoes and Carrots' is a recipe fit only for giants. Or maybe dragons? Either way, we have neither potatoes nor carrots, so roasting me really wouldn't work out well.
By the way, I remembered I have not given out the XP points for the most recent encounter.
There are several players who have not updated the Dice Rolls Doc.
Still looking for languages from: Gansu, Sama, & Tamlara.
I'm also looking for Appraise skill bonuses from: Boudacia, Gansu, Sama, & Tamlara
Still looking for languages from: Gansu, Sama, & Tamlara.
Oh, you meant on the document!
You asked before, but I thought you were talking about my character sheet. Updating now.
Document updated again. Y'know, you should probably link it in the campaign info, where you have all the other document links.
Document updated again. Y'know, you should probably link it in the campaign info, where you have all the other document links.
Uuummm ... it IS linked. In the spoiler section Various charts & stuff: The Emerald Spire Dice Rolls.
Moving the ooc commentary here...
Let's just finish these things off. Let me know if I need to do any more shuffling as the fight evolves!
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@Samma, please don't feel like you have to take any particular action, even if BG leaves a space for you or you have specifically stated you are delaying until after BG's action. I just didn't want you to feel left out or skipped over based on your previous posts.
@Stormstrider, did Gansu hit @ do damage to the lead gombie?
FYI guys I know my posts have slowed down a bit lately.
Here's what's going on.
Right now we have a staffing shortage at my workplace, and I have been pulling extra shifts. This has left me pretty tired and worn out. I also expect to be training some new hires soon (though I'm not sure when), and since I do most of my posts from work it is unlikely I will be able to post much on those days, but we don't have a schedule for that person yet, so I don't yet know which days I am doing that, and I may not end up knowing until I arrive for my shift. So since I may not have any warning I'm letting you guys know now. The training will probably be spread over three days.
After that I am leaving for a much needed Vacation on September 30th. I expect to have internet access, so I should be able to post in that period, though it may be a bit irregular.
Sorry for any problems this might cause, and if I don't respond in a reasonable time bot me as needed. Things should be back to normal for me in mid-October.
Understood Gansu! Thanks for letting us know.
I have been checking in at least twice a day here. I did send Tamlara a message via Facebook late last night to make sure she knows it is her turn.
I just watched the 'new' Mummy movie (2017). No spoilers! Just the moment when they are talking about how beautiful, ruthless and cunning the princess was, and saying how she would be worshiped as a living god ... and the pharaoh is staring at the pretty girl in the retinue ... then she's having a baby! That's some powerful look he's got! Just look and in a matter of seconds she's having a baby! Wow! - Hahaha! But I really enjoyed the movie. And quite romantic which I was NOT expecting!
After all that I could not get to sleep, finally went to sleep somewhere after 7:30 this morning! Then woke up at 8, 9 and 10 to use the restroom! After the 10 am run I was half awake so got on the computer and decided to write this.
RL Tamlara has told me before that I need to find a new place to live. I believe some of my other friends here may have mentioned it. AND I fully agree!!! but, the truth is that I can’t find anything near this price to rent and as far as the room goes I have a GREAT setup! The rent includes all utilities, free Wi-Fi, a free 42-inch “smart” TV, a mini fridge with separate “real” freezer section, and a microwave – all in the room! I could pay almost double and not have all the amenities! And I would not be able to afford that! Not to mention that my landlord is being nice enough to get me back and forth to work every day right now because my car is broke down! As a matter of fact this past Thursday and Friday he just let me take the van and drive myself back and forth to work! Thursday he was even nice enough to warn me that some people where coming for dinner that he knew I didn’t want to see and he allowed me to keep the van so I could stay away from the house until they were gone!
So, I need to get my car fixed hopefully, and then save up some money, and then yes I need to look for another place to live. There have been a few other episodes of his wife being drunk and things going wrong there recently as well, I just haven’t posted about those. Let’s just say the last time she spoke to me was to tell me to never speak to her again because I “am a two-faced liar”, and to inform me that she will never do my laundry again (oh yeah – until then I had free laundry service as well!), and she said she was going to make sure all the renters get kicked out. The landlord had already warned me she was saying this about kicking out the renters and he assured me that she will be gone before me and the basement guy are, but he was already wanting to get rid of ‘Johnny’ back then.
And thanks for letting me vent! I know Boudacia/Chillel will get excited to see another chapter of my drama life to read! ;)
Am I the only person who reads your real life drama posts?
You might get a wider readership if you changed them to make them more believable. You certainly seem to live in a madhouse. At least it is not boring.
The only thing interesting that has happened around here is that we now have someone dealing drugs from one of the units.
Their was a furious, elderly midget ranting and raving over a mobile phone in the parking lot about how he was coming around to collect the money he was owed and was going to **** smash the guys head in if he didn't have it. And his friendly drug dealer was driving him accompanied by the dealers puppy Rico. Odd.
And thanks! That little story about the Furious Midget was amusing! I've never gotten to see that in person, though I have seen something similar on TV, but in person it would be much more amusing! Not to mention real! Of course, considering his height, I have to wonder ... ... which of the guy's head's was he planning to smash? :D
And to be clear, I mean NO OFFENSE to any of the little people out there! We have a lady at my job that is a little person and I say she is rather attractive. I have a lot of respect for them. It must be difficult living in a world where things are not designed to your height.
In one of my Browncoat (Firefly fans) Face book groups I decided to make 3 posts having pictures of three of the beautiful ladies from the show. No nudes! If you wish to see thee pictures here you go:The Ladies of Serenity. I started with just the first one of Summer/River, but then I didn't want Morena/Inara or Jewel/Kaylee getting jealous so I posted once with their two pics, in clockwise order and then because I like Morena/Inara most of all I did one more post with the bottom 4 pics of her. And I'm sorry to Gina Torres, she is just not my type. But Morena Baccarin/Inara MOST definitely is!
Anyways, in under 7 minutes I had 94 likes/reactions/comments! And even now, several hours later the numbers are still climbing!
Yep. We're pigs.
From the guy studying to be a psychologist to help people? He made me want to kill myself! (Not really, but you get the point!) I just told him, you just gotta do what you gotta do. To 'quit doing' is not an option.
I guess my point is that apparently I have had a rough life compared to some others? But I'm generally happy. And I love my family! (well, I might make some changes to my brother - especially the woman he chose to marry! None of our family likes her!) my parents still live in Argentina and I call them on Skype at least once a week and we always talk for at least 30 minutes and frequently more than an hour. Overall, I feel blessed.
Do I wish I had a girlfriend/wife? At times yes. But then I would not have the time for all my gaming, and I would not be able to live the way I do. (You know, dress how I want, never make the bed, clean house, etc.) So, I'm ok.
The guy I called an elderly midget wasn't really a midget. He was just short and slight.
I don't recall having anything to do with what are now called little people. Not that i have avoided it really, just it hasn't come up.
The social experiment is interesting. Morena is definitely very hot. And her appearance suggests kindness [at least] as well.
We had a new person join our tabletop group today. Lenny. He seems nice, knowledgeable about roleplaying and gets on with everyone. So this is good.