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Funny thing is I mentioned a Monty python joke on page 2 of this thread and no one’s noticed. Guess I misread how deep and stimulating the subjects this blog post was going to be.

Oh well I’m still no less excited for the war of the immortals book!

Also quick question for the devs if spoilers allow, will Exemplars be proficient in medium armor at least at 1st level or as a later class feat option?


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The only time anyone here should mention Inquisition, is when nobody is expecting the Spanish Inquisition.


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If we already got the previous pre-remaster version via subscription, will we be getting the remaster PDF update? or is this a completely different book?


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does Paizo ship on Saturday's?


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My watch still continues.


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My order (Just PC2) is still listed as pending. but they are dealing with alot right now, So I have patience since many of the other things I want I don't have(or want) subscriptions for and would have to wait until the release date anyway.


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I swear if he summons a talking celestial Lion and four British kids with that lamppost I'm outta here.


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The Raven Black wrote:
UnArcaneElection wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:

"Part of the journey is the end."

Part of war is dying. I think this choice is fitting in many ways.

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My current conspiracy theory

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so like Radahn from Elden Ring.


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Got my physical copy. The inside cover isn't blank, It's an artistic interpretation of the world of Golarian! all continents!

definitely a reason to get the physical copy!


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zergtitan wrote:
zergtitan wrote:
I have not received my order authorization email yet, but it's in my sidecart. Might be due to just getting my suspended subscription reinstated though so I hope to receive the auth email tomorrow.
weird, order shown as pending. but no authorization email. I will assume everything is fine.

Nevermind got the email today. my email server must be slow.


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zergtitan wrote:
I have not received my order authorization email yet, but it's in my sidecart. Might be due to just getting my suspended subscription reinstated though so I hope to receive the auth email tomorrow.

weird, order shown as pending. but no authorization email. I will assume everything is fine.


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I have not received my order authorization email yet, but it's in my sidecart. Might be due to just getting my suspended subscription reinstated though so I hope to receive the auth email tomorrow.


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Considering the pattern of a deity's death(If the mantle is not relinquished or taken shortly after) causes a "out of control moment" with a part of the portfolio without their guidance, and that their death starts or is part of a Planar War, with the developers have not said that the death causes a major effect on the material plane politically(besides the end of a faith) I have a strong Idea of who it might be.

I think Gorum kicks the bucket. Think of him as the Nuclear deterrent of the planar realms. the moment the god of war who can wreak anything is no longer there to "persuade" realms not to seek conflict, they will most certainly take up arms and act on old wounds and rivalries. Someone might even kill Gorum to make it easier to wage war.

I also think of the major 20 deities he is the least nuanced deity to have a religion for Meta-wise. all the other deities have multiple aspects that a cleric can follow making no two clerics the same. At the same time his tenets seems to demand that all his priests be warpriests and not cloistered clerics.

Both narrative-wise and Meta-wise Gorum is most certainly the deities whoses death would be the most effective to do. On top of that similar to how Arodens faithful flocked to Iomedae for support I can easily see many Gorumites flocking to a deity of the Abused and Dignity since other then conquest(Asmodeus), Justice(Iomedae), and liberation(Milani), the other reason why people fight is to defend their dignity and oppose or gain retribution for abuse.

so my money's on Gorum and I'll even put that down as an investment at the First Vault.


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Sy Kerraduess wrote:

So this person obtained a spark of divinity and kept it within one of his personal items, and since then the stories people tell about him have caused his divine powers to grow?

I didn't know Cayden Cailean was an Exemplar!

Interesting. I like the idea of him being an Exemplar, though unlike us PCs he must have gained his divine spark in the cathedral, whereas we get our from the shards of the dead god.

But which god?


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CorvusMask wrote:
ooooh :O Does this mean the rakshasa tiefling equivalent will be its own heritage eventually as well? Nice

Possibly in a Vudra world guide.


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Still waiting on my shipping email, can someone put in a spoiler tag what the new Wizard Class Archetype is? I think someone said the wizard got one.


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FISH GUN!


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I know this may not be the case but would the remastered Thassilonian Wizard Archetype be in this or was that not planned?


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One of the things I noticed from looking at this class is that the Channeler and Sage practices seem both too underwhelming and have similar problems to the cleric doctrines. So I was trying to think of what might be better is to use the fact that some of the spirits seem to be natural(primal) and some seemed more supernatural(occult).So what if instead of the two current practices having access to all apparitions maybe they should instead access apparitions based on Animist Practice.

1.Shaman: Primal Apparitions Animist, gains trained in Nature, can access more nature magics and class feats with some god caller flavors. Example Iconics:Samo & Shardra Geltl. can gain an optional familiar. Apparitions include: Custodians of groves and gardens, Stalkers in darkened boughs, Stewards of stone and fire, & Vanguards of roaring waters.

2.Medium: Occult Apparitions Animist, gains Trained in Occultism, can access more weird magic and ghost/haunt interaction effects, Harrow card references or possible FUTURE 52 spirits(?). Example Iconic:Erasmus. can handle possessions better with more skill/option flexibility. Apparitions Include: Impostors in hidden places & Witnesses to ancient battles.

I think that this type of Animist Practice might allow for more character options and designs for players to tinker with and play. not to mention more themes to match with a wider verity of games to play, Quest of the Frozen Flame fits Shamans well and Stolen Fates for Mediums.

What is everyone's thoughts on this? what do the developers think about this idea or was this a concept that was put aside in development?


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I remember back in d&d 3.5 there was a horror adventures rulebook and in it there was an archivist class that was an intelligence divine caster. I can't remember the book or the class name. But I'm reminded of that.

Edit: Found it, Heroes Of Horror, WOTC Print October 2005, Archivist class Pg.82.


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So I decided to bulletpoint what was said in stolen fates about the “possible” future adventure paths here in a spoiler. Keep in mind all of these refer to heroes rising to challenge them.

Spoiler:
1. They see two great powers declare war and many neighbors needing to pick sides.
2. They see great legacies reclaimed where they were thought lost.
3. They see the return of great evils thought lost to time.
4. They see the sun destroyed.
5. They see some deities laughing in delight at beloved mortal entertainers, while others consume them and choke them with cruelty.
6. They see countless spirits shrieking in agony.
7. They see old gods fall and new gods rise in their place.
8. They see a pale cataclysm ravage the lands, leaving only corruption and tangled thorns in its wake.
9. They see a humble village grow where there was nothing before.
10. They see an immense red bird raining fire down upon a small town.
11. They see ultimate power within the grasp of almost countless hands.
12. They see new lands rise from ashes of ancient civilizations.
13.They see a crowned phoenix with the tail of a peacock, its return presaging vengeance upon the world.

That’s possibly 13 future APs, some of which may be red herrings.


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While I am a fan of these changes, the Schools change is a big deal. While for most of the releases after the original core books can still carry over well, Secrets Of Magic is the only book I can think of which will need the most changes as none of the Lost Omens books have any major change, nor do Guns & Gears or Dark Archives have any needed change.

Secrets of Magic on the other hand,

1.The Eight Arches of Incantation is no longer relevent.
2.The Summoner Dragon Eidolon will need updating.
3.Minor clean-up work for the Magus.
4.Full rework of the Runelord Wizard Archetype to deal with the changes with full school writeups.
5.Elementalist expansions for the new planes if not in Rage of Elements already.
6.Soulforged armaments update and cleanup due to alignment removal.

This alone is a least 1/3 of the book, so I think of all the non-core rulebooks this is the only one that would be worth a Remaster.

they can also,

1.Enhanced the descriptions of the different types of magic by making a chapter for each (Arcane, Divine, Occult, Primal), taking some of the Book of Unlimited Magic material and spreading them among the relevant chapters.
2.giving an overarching narrative to tie the book together like they started doing with Book Of The Dead, maybe using the characters from the Tradition Treatises and On Essences sections to act as the books narrators.
3.Revise the Spells and Magic Items from the original release and add some new ones.

If the print run of the book is almost sold out this might be a good idea to do by the developers.


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keftiu wrote:

From the Remaster stream at PaizoCon just now: Wizard subclasses are now not based on the classic Spell School options (gone with the OGL), but rather literal in-world schools of magical study! A Wizard who studied civic magic will have different options than a military mage, to use the examples from the stream.

I've never, ever wanted to play a Wizard before, but this flavor is very tempting.

It's Great but now there is some worry about how the Runelord Archetype works.

As a fan of Runelords I need more Details.


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If the cover image for the character guide give an idea of the 6 new ancestries. so along Tanuki, Samsaren, and Wayangs, my bet is, Kappa, Tsukumogami, and whatever the shadow creature from Spirited Away is in the back.


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So Pathfinder Unleashed for Starfinder. Nice! :)


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Alchemical foods?! *Rolls an Alchemist Chef*


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Since I've not yet received my shipping email yet, can anyone spoiler a list of the deities in this book?


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"Spaceballs the Flamethrower!!"

-Mel Brooks, Goblin Alchemist


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Subparhiggins wrote:
According to Paizo twitter, players guide is out on Monday, Feb 28th!

I think you mean March?


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Patrickthekid wrote:
How many temples of gods outside of the core 20 are mentioned in the book?
Erik Mona wrote:
I count about 8.

What are the 8 Deities outside the core 20 with temples?


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I never thought being autistic that I would find representation of my difference so enjoyable to have. But Paizo proves that representation can do a great deal. I never thought about playing a cleric until the deity write up for Tsukiyo was released in Faiths of Golarion at which point I began to feel a strong connection with the idea of playing a cleric. Heck, even the D&D 5e Twilight domain fit well with him.

So I'm glad to see this representation continue.


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Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
*****, if you are the one that us deleting Diego's posts that is wrong and perhaps you are more ingrained in other problems of the company.

Stop.....this is the type of response that creates the 'witch hunt" problem I was warning about. We should not start throwing out accusations indiscriminately like this. We don't know and making this sort of direct call out is what will by policy get your post deleted.

I do not want to see this thread locked and Paizo to respond to this behavior by silencing all communication about this matter. Which they could do if we don't tread on this matter carefully.

Everyone is walking on emotional eggshells so If you need to, take a breather and come back to this thread tomorrow. I will be doing the same myself.


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Anorak wrote:
Umbral Reaver wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Wait, they are deleting Diego's posts?
Yes, several of his posts about what he experienced as an employee were deleted.
Now that pisses me off LOL Right or wrong, let his posts stand the light of day for analyses.

If they were made after he left, then his posts should remain up as they would no longer exist under any employee messageboard regulations.


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Umbral Reaver wrote:
If you pay someone to investigate you for misdeeds, and they only disclose the results of the investigation to you and nobody else, what are you doing?

If they release the results while only redacting the names of victims and explaining the responding actions they will take in response to the inquiry, then I believe that would be fair.

I will not transform the lives of Paizo's working staff who just got unionized into a news drama. What they went through was bad enough, we should be focusing on their work and their successes, both in product and in working treatments/pay, not making the sole inference of their names to specific tragedies.

no one wants to be known only or initially for their suffering.

We will be keeping vigil as to what they do with both the final report and in response to it.


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keftiu wrote:


The room issue is an explicitly discriminatory policy we have him admitting...

I was not talking about that part. I didn't recall that part being directly related to him other then a decision of a group of executive officials.


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keftiu wrote:
zergtitan wrote:


I know some people will want more immediate action in response to the accusations, But considering the mixed nature of the efficacy of the accusations made(some true, some inaccurate, Some debated by staff outside executive staff), I'm not against having an inquiry done before more affirmative action is taken as I have seen enough "witch hunt" style responses(Some just, some later found false) to know that three main goals of any response to accusations like these is,
We have Jeff admitting to being responsible for both doxxing and implementing discriminatory policy in this very post. It’s not a “witch hunt” to say that those admissions should be enough to see him removed.
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Discussion in the past several months has resurfaced two instances in which a Paizo executive mishandled user data when replying to message board posts, resulting in allegations of doxxing. These actions were contrary to Paizo policy, and corrective actions were taken to ensure that this does not happen again.

“This was a huge mistake on my part and I am deeply sorry for any issues that have arisen from these actions. This was not the right way to treat our customers and I apologize,” said Paizo President Jeff Alvarez. “As President, I know I need to hold myself to a higher standard.”

As much as I would agree with you, again we are an "Innocent Till Proven Guilty" Justice System, which means if Jeff believes his actions were mistakes and not malicious in intent he does have the right to retain his job until the inquiry says otherwise.

I'm not happy about what happened behind the curtains of Paizo either and felt betrayed and angered by what was happening, but we don't know all the details ourselves. When the Inquiry is done we will have the full right to demand then for all the information and request the proper response.


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While the process seems slow I'm not Surprised this is taking some time. Hiring a 3rd party to investigate and supporting the Paizo Union are positive steps.

I know some people will want more immediate action in response to the accusations, But considering the mixed nature of the efficacy of the accusations made(some true, some inaccurate, Some debated by staff outside executive staff), I'm not against having an inquiry done before more affirmative action is taken as I have seen enough "witch hunt" style responses(Some just, some later found false) to know that three main goals of any response to accusations like these is,

1.Truth
2.Penalty
3.Correction/Deterrent of Repetition

All of which a proper inquiry is required to get right.

A lot of trust has been lost and will take time to regain, but if we love the product and over the course of the next few years the staff honestly reports from their own social media free of Paizo oversight that things have gotten better then we should support and not deter the companies current action by constantly saying "that's not good enough"(burn the witch). Time and Treatment heal all injuries, you can change treatment but time remains a stubborn and slow beast.


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I'm So Glad To See This! Let's keep working together to increase Transparency, Communication, and Inclusion in the industry and workforce we love!

The communications between the Union and the Management may become tense at times, but these sorts of headaches are worth it for the treatment and cooperation of the workforce.

GL HF.


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Loving all of this! just a few mechanical tweaks but leave all the flavor and features as they are!

Also loving having my own summonable House of Mystery(Justice League Dark) as a capstone!

I'm creating a set of Thaumaturge triplets who rune a magic store, one specializing in Rituals, one in Talismans, and one in scrolls for players to meet!

I also love being able to play the guy with the magic bag of tricks. I can only think of the scene from The Princess Bride. Nonat should really enjoy the roleplaying nature of the feat rather then the mechanical cheese factor he seems troubled by.


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In the end what I'm hoping for the Shaman(Probably spontaneous Primal Caster) and some form of prepared Occult caster(Occultist or Psychic) with a spellbook or some other non-familiar based spell learning.

But even new classes would be nice to see.


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Here are my thoughts on what we're missing from the 1e classes and what gaps could still be filled....

Classes Completed: Alchemist, Barbarian, Bard, Champion(Paladin), Cleric, Druid, Fighter, Monk, Ranger, Rogue, Sorcerer, Wizard, Investigator, Oracle, Swashbuckler, Witch, Magus, Summoner,Gunslinger & Inventor.

1E Classes Demoted: Cavalier(Archetype), Warpriest(Cleric Doctrine), Vigilante(Archetype), Arcanist(Flexible Spell Preparation Archetype) referenced in text & Spiritualist(Summoner with Occult Eidolon).

Remaining Classes: Inquisitor, Shifter, Bloodrager, Skald, Brawler, Hunter, Shaman, Slayer, Kineticist, Medium, Mesmerist, Occultist & Psychic.

Known Open Class Positions: Dedicated Prepared Occult Caster, Dedicated Spontaneous Primal Caster, & Dedicated Spontaneous Arcane Caster.

Here's my current theory....

Inquisitor: Cleric Dedication
Shifter:?
Bloodrager:Insufficient in light of Multiclassing options.
Skald:Warrior Muse Bard, not yet confirmed.
Brawler:Insufficient in light of Multiclassing options.
Hunter:Insufficient in light of Multiclassing options.
Shaman:Dedicated Spontaneous Primal Caster
Slayer:Rogue Racket if not already possible.
Kineticist:Confirmed in works but not ready for playtest yet(?)
Medium:Too Complicated to make at this time, Needs major overhaul to work.
Mesmerist:Spontaneous Occult Caster Anti-bard with Stare Cantrip and Spell Point Powers.
Occultist:Dedicated Prepared Occult Caster.
Psychic:Occult Sorcerer Bloodline.

So as of now until we know the theme of the upcoming book, we don't know.


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I am excited for the new Prepared Spellcasting archetype for prepared casters. I love how spells scale Pathfinder 2E and the way cantrips work as well, but I was always peeved about the fact you had to prepare each individual spell slot or know certain levels or a spell to cast them for Spontaneous casters. I do prefer the D&D 5E spell preparation method for both Spontaneous and Prepared casters, and I'm hoping this archetype can let me enjoy that preparation system with 2E spell & cantrips.

Also very excited for the Runelord Archetype and if the Artwork in Today's Blog hints at anything, I think it shows Polearm Proficiency for Wizards.


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Problem is still ongoing.....


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Thank You for the in-world representation and the welcoming community Paizo!

P.S. I never had a deity personally resonate with me until Tsukiyo was fully detailed in Faiths Of Golarion. I'm actually making a Kitsune cleric of his to play in my pathfinder games.


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zergtitan wrote:
Still Pending. When do the shipping batches come out every day?

Nevermind just got it.


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Still Pending. When do the shipping batches come out every day?