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'Use regardless instead.'

I rest my case.

The prospect of seeing Castle Greyhawk in print is an exciting one, but like others have already stated, I suspect I will buy both Gygax's and Mona's versions. And let's be realistic about this whole thing: neither one will have a claim to genuine authenticity. Perhaps Gygax has the stronger claim since parts of his will be taken from the original, but I don't think that will stop either one from being a success.

I do think that a Wizard's version will eat into Zagyg's profits, however. People don't have THAT much money.

As for Living Greyhawk, just download the 'modules' from a file-sharing network like Shareaza and avoid the hassle of the triads. There are hundreds of these adventures out there and can be plugged into any time period you see fit. I don't deal with the regional people. They're unreliable, never get back to you, and hound you about the details when you should be free to do things as you see fit. For the most part, the Living Greyhawk organization is tedious and heavy handed when it comes to player satisfaction.

Oh, and 'irregardless' isn't a word. Pick up a dictionary once in a while.

The Orbs of Dragonkind article didn't make it because it's currently in a folder with all of the other Greyhawk articles Dragon has ever printed. A compilation of that material, while unlikely in the current environment, would be absolutely glorious.

--Erik

Erik,

Has something changed since you last mentioned the possibility of a Greyhawk compendium or should that be applied to your previous statement? I am more than willing to support this first volume, partly because it's a great compilation, but partly to ensure the appearance of a Greyhawk volume. Could you expound on your statement a bit?

Thanks,

TBK

It would seem that Erik is ensuring that we'll be getting D&D books the way they were meant to be, albeit in a roundabout way and several years late. But that's no fault of his, I just hope that the Greyhawk volume sees release before that OTHER setting, no disrespect to Ed Greenwood.

That's the best answer I didn't expect. Thanks, Erik.

Hey, Mr. Head,

Is there some significant reason why you keep dodging my question?

TBK

I have all the old dragon articles on the Suloise + Greyhawk deities but I would love to have that list updated and statted out for the current edition. You're right when you say there is stuff out there, but you gotta do a lotta leg work just to find it: Iuz was in an issue of Dragon, as was Tharizdun and Rao; Deities and Demi-gods had a bunch of these guys, also statted out; but nowhere may be found a definitive issue of Greyhawk deitiews in detail. One has to settle for the LGG, which only goes so far, but it is more complete than others. I suppose this all goes back to the jealousy Greyhawk fans feel when they see other settings getting the red carpet treatment.

No, it leaves a LOT to be covered. Those LGG write-ups were skeletal to say the least and had NOTHING in the way of stats, smart guy.

I do hope that the cover of the book will be cooler looking. There's a awfully lot of negative space.

Yeah, for my favorite release of the year, it's certainly NOT my favorite cover.

Just to be clear, the list of articles was finalized some months ago.

But keep the suggestions coming...
They will certainly be helpful in compiling the list of articles for Volume 2.

- rob

*asks for the third time*

How many of the old greyhawk articles, specifically the deities, will be included in this compendium?

Thanks in advance,

black knight

I hate to repeat questions, but what about the greyhawk deities? Did they make it into the book?

Does that include Amazon?

Naturally, I think the deities and demi-gods of Greyhawk would be in there, especially the Suloise pantheon, minus the big names that already got write-ups in hardcover.

Mr. Mona??

It's interesting. Even though many have speculated that Mona is under pressure to dilute the uniqueness of Greyhawk in Dungeon of late, I think it may be the opposite case: by making Greyhawk more generic in the adventure path series, Mona is actually positioning the setting for its liberation at the hands of 4e. Ingenious, Eric. Truly ingenious.

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I too will not take my dice elsewhere. I wanted to give the article a chance, but I soon grew to dislike Wil Save to the point where I couldn't stand it being in Dungeon. Am I glad it's gone? Yes, very much, and I wouldn't even bend in that regard, especially over a sense of 'fairness' and all that other regretful rubbish we feel when we have shown our true feelings about something.

Wil Save is gone. Dead. Good riddance.

So who the heck is it?

I always knew Erik would finally figure out a way to get all those Living Greyhawk Journal articles published. Of course, that will probably be vol. 2 or 3, I think, or should I say volume Greyha...

I have heard that the material in the upcoming compendium will be updated for 3.5 Any truth to that one?

As long as we don't see Wil Save anymore, yes, it sounds GREAT.

You know, I just realized something. It's people like the ones in this thread who got Wil Save canned, that are the reason why I find it so difficult to get a gaming group together, and keeping them together without either hating everybody in it, or at least one person having a personality conflict with everybody else, or them being smelly and downright scary, or a bunch of other reasons relating to the patheticism of RPG-geeks in general.

RPG-geeks are the whiniest, most self-important, arrogant asses on the planet. It was ONE FREAKIN' PAGE! I mean, really. So what if you didn't like it. Flip the damn page and get over it. Don't come and argue about it and vehemently describe how horrid it is on a message board. IT JUST ISN'T WORTH IT. There are FAR more important things in life, like watching House MD.

My god. I used think working as the editor of Dungeon or Dragon would be the coolest job on the planet. Then I joined these boards...

Glad to see you can look down on all of us at once. Is that what inspired your name?

Yeesh. I liked Wil Save quite a lot. A thousand plagues upon the whiners - may the worms of Kyuss infest thy nether regions!

Same to you, fanboy.

Eberron? God, no. I wouldn't buy a single issue if I knew Dungeon were to become devoted to that worthless amalgam of a setting.

Be realistic, people: Eberron gets enough attention as it is, with FR running a close second. No, If there are to be any more adevnture paths, let's keep them firmly planted in the soil of the Flanaess.

The seemingly irreversible:

Helm of Opposite Alignment

People say that but it's just not that convincing. The again, who am I to say? I liked the first two Star Wars prequels.

I am truly impressed. Some folks know how to beat a dead dog into oblivion. It's over!! Some of you whined and cried and boo-hoo'd until you were blue in the face. The column is gone, find some thing else to rant about already. I've taught basic training privates who whine less than some of you. I think it's more than time to let it go...

Gee, Sarge, does this mean we can't go to the big dance tonight?

Ah, shucks. Now, where did I put that potato peeler?

Well, no offense, but I'm not here to suggest stuff to you, Yamo, merely to toss stuff in the ring.

If we were to have a female writer, it would be nice if she played D&D on a semi-regular basis, unlike another writer who, until recently, was entrusted to write on the subject.

If not the kiddie thing, then why not have people recount events from their sessions that could be put to good use in other people's games? Kinda like Up on a Soapbox but with different authors. That way, if anyone gets too lame (ala Wheaton), Dungeon can simply plug in a new guy (or girl).

Hey, now there's an idea. Why not have a girl write the thing? You know, a female perspective on what is otherwise a predominantly male game. Could be fun to hear what she'd say. It might even do wonders for the image of gamers everywhere.

Well, at least Mr. Downer Author (don't know his name off hand) has the courage to stand up to his detractors, even if it is behind Mona's protective screen. Wheaton never deigned to talk to anyone about his column, especially when things heated up, and I think that hurt him in the long run.

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know, I know! :-)

What I'd *LOVE* to see -- and yes, I know it's not my idea -- is a fairly conversational article about running a game for younger players... Whether it's a parent running a game for the kids, or a teacher introducing students to D&D... The idea seems pretty simple to me, I hope everyone understands what I'm saying.

We keep hearing about how the gaming population is aging. D&D players aren't teenagers any more, we're thirty-, forty-, even fifty-year olds (and older) trying to work in D&D between family, home, and jobs. In the meantime, the young'uns aren't being introduced to D&D fast enough to support the continued existence of the industry. Well, an article about running a game for the young'uns (from 10 to 20), about reaching the youth of today and introducing our hobby to them... That'd be perfect. I don't have kids yet, but I will in the next couple years (hopefully). When they get a bit older, I want to run a game for them, like my dad ran a game for my brother and I when we were young. :-)

Anyway. Sorry, I just got really, really excited about the prospect of that kind of article. I'll try to be quiet now. ;-)

This is a pretty good idea, actually.

I'm really bad at writing flamey comments - this is why I've stayed away from the high-school b@&~!fest that was the "failed wil save" thread. I'd like to reiterate one of the earlier posts in saying that the thread is like an ugly cancerous growth on the friendly and interesting community Paizo have created here. The childish part of me hopes those amongst you who regularly spewed your vitriolic bulls*%% into the thread find its replacement even more distasteful. Oh well, at least I tried.

Criticism is as inevitable as breathing. Get used to it.