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That's a good point. While paizo can be pretty unspecific, they usually clarify restrictions.
Still a few days until our next session, so i'll try and talk it over with the gm. If they want to enforce this, they are going to have to deal with the consequences of a lot of enemies we come across wielding rifles being limited to 2 shots, since a good number of mooks don't already have rapid shot.

Also, all weapons with automatic by default have semi-auto(its the first sentence).

Level 10. And it was not until after that attack that they re read the rules on semi auto and decided to limit attacks made to 3.

Yeah I know at least that pretty much all robots have weakness to electricity, even if they have resistance to it(as stupid as that sounds). I've also read that energy damage bypasses hardness if the creature is weak to said element. That along with the bonus to hit metal creatures that arc weapons get was the main pull of the arc rifle weapon.

What made the damage good was the fact that I'd get an extra attack from the semi-auto's additional rapid shot. With a +3 DMG from archaeologists luck, +2 from arcane shot, and +2 from good hope at most times, it was pretty okay 2d6+8 X 4 Shots total with double rapid shot.

What was the first and last straw was when I used my arc rifle for the first time. Our spell warrior skald gave us a +1d6 fire and +1d6 lightning.

Hasted making It +13/+13/+13/+13/+8 = 5 shots hitting touch ac.
And 4d6 + 8 damage with all shots hitting at 160 max potential damage I did 140 something.

Kinda op yes, but the amount of effects that needed to be present is not going to be common.

Unfortunately our usual GM has convinced our current newbie GM that that is how it works. So I may be stuck making only 3 attacks for the rest of the campaign despite bab increases.

I would like clarification on this because I could only find one post that slightly touched on the issue on reddit, but didn't clarify completely.

Currently in my campaign, my archaeologist bard has made the transition from bow to Arc Rifle with a dip in technomancer. However there is some debate on how many attacks can be made with tech weapons.

The clarification for the related fire rates is as follows on the 'Technological Weapons' page:
"Semi-Automatic: A semi-automatic weapon normally fires one shot as an attack. However, the user can take a full-attack action to fire twice, as if using the Rapid Shot feat (including taking a -2 penalty on all attacks). If the wielder has the Rapid Shot feat, she can use the additional shot from that as well, but the penalty for all shots fired in that round increases to -6.

Slow-Firing: A slow-firing weapon requires a full-round action to use, and thus cannot be used to make iterative attacks."

The Arc rifle is a semi-auto weapon, so my assumption is that a semi-auto rifle can be used to attack as many times in a round as your bab allows + the additional shots allowed from rapid shot. Logically, it would make sense that you can make multiple shots as easily as you can with a bow, since a semi-auto rifle would only require that you keep pulling the trigger; making this even more obvious is that tech semi-auto weapons have rapid shot built in (this weapon is logically so easy for anyone with proper proficiency to use, that you can basically fire an extra shot for free).

To me this seems clear, especially since the 'modern weapons' page on d20pfsrd states:
"When making a full-attack action with a single-shot or semi-automatic firearm, you may fire a firearm as many times in a round as you have attacks, up to the number of cartridges in the weapon (or more, if you can reload the weapon as a swift or free action while making a full-attack action)."

However, my party members believe that how it is explained under technological weapons implies that you can only make 3 shots EVER (no matter your bab). This is because it says a semi-auto weapon makes a single shot as a attack or two, or three based off of rapid shot.

Long Story short: Is the Semi-auto description under the tech weapons page simply saying you get extra attacks as per rapid shot, or that you can only make up to 3 shots BECAUSE of rapid shot. Id assume this works like regular rapid shot and allows me to make a regular number of shots based on bab + rapid shot. Only that I basically get double rapid shot.

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