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What about the heightened versions of Animal Form? Is the spell automatically heightened if my level is high enough?


Hey all,

I've gone through the Bestiary and resolved most of the skill calculations. I only have 18 critters that have skills bonuses that I can't resolve. Is there a place I can post the file (word document), without having a webpage?

Mead


James Jacobs wrote:
meadmaster wrote:

Well, the only swarm with a Stealth skill listed is the Leech Swarm.

It gives a Stealth bonus of +1. This makes no sense since its dex bonus is +4. So, it should be 4 (dex only) or 16 (dex and size).

That is indeed an error, and one that should be corrected in a future printing. It should be:

Stealth +16 (+4 Dex, +12 size) with +24 in swamps.

Thanks James,

On another note, I've found several other inconsistancies in the
Bestiary skills, and I've collected them in a word file. Would you like a copy.

Mead


Well, the only swarm with a Stealth skill listed is the Leech Swarm.
It gives a Stealth bonus of +1. This makes no sense since its dex bonus is +4. So, it should be 4 (dex only) or 16 (dex and size).


Does a swarm get the size bonus of the individual creatures for things like Stealth, even though collectively they take up a larger area?

For instance, does a swarm of Tiny creatures get a +8 bonus to Stealth?

Thanks,

Mead


But the Bestiary lists it's Stealth modifier as +5, not +8, so there's still a three point discrepancy there, that you haven't accounted for.

Just checked, it is correct at the PRD, which is cool. Must just be an error in the printed Bestiary.

Latest errata for the Bestiary changes the Stealth to +8.

Mead


I think the cloaker skills are actually:

Disquise: 6 ranks, +2 cha = 8
Fly: 6 ranks, +3 dex, +3 class, -2 size = 10
Know (religion): 6 ranks, +2 int, +3 class = 11
Perception: 6 ranks, +2 wis, +3 class, +3 skill focus = 14
Sense Motive: 6 ranks, +2 wis = 8
Stealth: 6 ranks, +3 dex, +3 class, -4 size (large) = 8

So they do add up just fine.

Hope this helps,

Mead


I'll bump this since I'm curious about this as well.

Any ideas?