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a large bastard sword still isnt appropriately sized for a medium character.

This is incorrect. A bastardsword is a one-handed weapon for medium-sized creatures. A large one is a two-handed weapon for medium-sized creatures.

A weapon which exceeds the size of "two-handed weapon for n-sized creatures" cannot be used by that size creature.

EWP simply addresses penalties intregal to certain weapons -- it has nothing to do with size.

The problem with the text of Massive Weapons is its "flavor text" rather clearly implies that a Titan Mauler ought to be able to use otherwise too-big weapons, but no mechanic is provided to do so -- just penalty alleviation for using weapons already permitted by other mechanisms.

I'd be careful saying that "appropriately sized" means that the effective weapon size would be between light and two-handed, because then when you look at the Massive Weapons ability, "inappropriately sized" would then mean that the Titan Mauler could wield weapons that are effectively larger than two-handed.

Which it sounds like you're saying in that last paragraph. Paizo will need to clarify this, definitely. Reword Massive Weapons or affirm its current wording and provide rules for wielding weapons that would fall outside normal limits (three-handed weapons, anyone?).

If you mean "Strong Jaw" from the APG, Druid 4/Ranger 3 (not being familiar with the spell caused me some confusion), I still don't see how that would multiply the strength mod.

So, trying to figure this out. You start with an eidolon with a slam, you spend evolution points to make him huge. His slam then deals 1d8+1.5xSTR damage. You then use the Share Spells ability to cast enlarge person on yourself and the eidolon, giving it a 2d6+1.5xSTR slam. Then, with Strong Jaw, because the eidolon is already Gargantuan at this point, it doubles the weapon damage, increasing it to 4d6+1.5xSTR. The top of the Vital Strike line, at this point, would be Greater Vital Strike, with which you roll weapon damage dice four times before adding strength mod and the like, resulting in 16d6+1.5xSTR damage. Nowhere would the strength mod be tripled though, since Strong Jaw would affect the natural attack's damage, not the damage from strength mod.

Now, if your DM rules that it doubles the damage added from strength mod as well, sweet, because I'd nix that immediately since I don't believe that's how the rules read.

Where is the spell Iron Maw from, and how does the text read? If it's 3.5, then I can see the argument, because while "compatible" it doesn't mean that the mixture of PFRPG and 3.5 is balanced. Still curious about the spell text.

...can you say Vital strike for 18d8 damage Plus triple str mod?

Where's the triple strength mod from? Vital Strike does not multiple STR mod to damage, only weapon damage dice.

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+1. As a DM I already see this turning into "Well, he'll nat-1 his save eventually!"

Stunned isn't helpless. Otherwise Stunning Fist would have the same problem.

That's what Dastardly Finish is for, though. Also, as pointed out, Stunning Fist has a save, while Stunning Shot does not.

Ah, I see now that I was forgetting Specialization.

Great breakdown, and quite indicative of some balance quirks with the class. I'd like to point out one omission though - it seems your damage is calculated on Deadly Aim, Enhancement, and Point-Blank (for instance, the 20th level average damage is +18 - I see Deadly Aim at that point is -6/+12, enhancement you've marked down +5, and then Point-Blank for the 18th point of damage). But Gunslingers after 5th level can add their dexterity modifier to damage as per Gun Training, making these numbers an understatement of their power.

Let me know if I'm reading your numbers incorrectly.

Leukodaemon (pg 68) -

Natural weapon damages match creature size, however the longbow damage is listed as per a medium longbow (1d8). No SQ are listed, meaning it does not have the Undersized Weapons SQ and should wield a large longbow.

If this is approved to be posted to the "definite problems" thread, please do so for me, as I don't often browse the messageboards and may not pay attention enough to post it there.