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I'll will probably put up another thread for my own ROTR recruitment. Also, I'd love to play in another AP. I'd vote for Reign of Winter. I've got a Wizard prepped for that AP.


I am considering tackling the GM job for ROTR. I'm fairly new to the forums and I have no recent experience with pbp. Years ago I did run a successful Paranoia campaign back during the old BBS times. I have run several Pathfinder games since the system came out. I've alomost completed GMing the Kingmaker AP with my local group.

I am familair with the rules but I'm certainly no rules lawyer. I usually prefer to appeal more to common sense rather than look up endless pages of rules (although I think pbp gives you more opportunity to look things up and get them right since you're not interupting the flow of the game). Role-playing is paramount to me and I think pbp is an excellent medium for it. I would be posting numerous times a day through the week, less on week-ends. I'm only familair with the core rulebook and the APG, so anything too crazy or exotic as far as characters concepts are concerned would be awkward for me.

Anyway, just testing the waters. Haven't decided to pull the trigger on this yet.


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The swimming and underwater combat rules are a mess. Falling into water, swimming and fighting while submerged should be especially difficult/deadly to most characters. Generally, the only real penalty that players face is a -2 to hit (which is almost meanigless at higher levels).

There's no way a person who is loaded down with 100's of pounds of combat gear, wearing armour and who actually doesn't know how to swim (why the swim skill can be used untrained is beyond me) should be able to fight against enemies underwater with anything close to normal effectivenss (if at all). Have you ever seen a big muscle bound body builder type (read: high Str and Con) who can't swim jump or fall into water? They sink like a stone! BTW, ever actually try to swim while holding on to something in your hands (like a 2 handed greateaxe). If you are underwater and not braced against anything, you can't actually hit someone with any significant force. Also, thrown weapons are completely ineffective underwater but other ranged weapons simply get a -2 to hit? Modern fire arms lose their effectiveness and force after a few feet through water! How can a x-bow shoot at something from the surface to the bottom of a 100 ft deep lake.

In our campaign we had a Dwarf barbarian load himslef down with rocks in his backpack. Walk underwater and proceed to hack and slash several merfolk to pieces easily. It was ludicrous. Even the players felt bad about it.


Quick question:

A is the shooter, B is the target. X is a wall/pillar (O are empty squares).

AOOOOOXB

Both gain cover when attacked by the other party. Correct?

Shouldn't B have the option of hiding complelty behind the wall and not exposing himself? If B takes a full defense action or does not make an attack and declares that they are staying entirely out of sight, surely A wouldn't even be able to see B. Is this rules legal or just a common sense ruling?

Now, the wall is a 10 ft section like this:

AOOOOOXB
OOOOOOX

Same situation as above. Shouldn't B be able to stand half way between squares and be complelty out of sight from A?