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aboyd wrote:Deadmanwalking wrote:Also, 5 times a day, he can use his Reflex Save instead of his Fortitude Save at no penalty (Twist Away + Ring of Ferocious Action is a very good combination).0_o
Wow, yeah. That's the cleverness I was thinking of, although it doesn't appear to be something exclusive to the new rogue. Love it anyway, though.
It's exclusive to people with Evasion. And probably only worth it on low-Fort Save Classes. So it's primarily useful to Rogues, Archaeoogist Bards, and maybe high level Swashbucklers (assuming you let them count for prerequisites).
Also, and for the record, I didn't come up with that, I just found it on this Forum. It's pretty amazing, though.
And the Unchained Rogue is what makes the build I just listed have an AC equivalent of 37, and a +20/+20/+15/+15 attack routine once he gets going (the later gives him a DPR a bit north of 100 when he's Sneak Attacking on all four attacks, and goes up over 130 with Haste).
Twist Away + Ring of Ferocious combo doesn't actually work.
Twist Away says in the description "nor can you ignore the staggered condition from Twist Away or remove it early"
And the wording for Ring of Ferocious is, "he may spend a charge to activate the ring and ignore the staggered condition until his next turn."
So, Twist says you cant ignore the staggered condition, and the Ring says that you spend a charge to ignore the staggered condition.
Good idea though. The wording is just too spot on. I'd imagine if it said something like "and delays the staggered condition until his next turn" an argument could be made, since its not removing or ignoring, it would just be postponing the condition.