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Pathfinder market is 70-80% US+CAN and Europe is just a part of the rest. It's simply not big enough to be a priority warranting stuff like the European branch of Paizo or dedicated warehouses+shipping.

For EU distributors, in the "fantasy RPG" category, the first priority is whatever is the favourite local game (DSA for Germany, Warhammer FRP for Poland etc.), the second is D&D and then comes Pathfinder.

Not going to happen, in other words. And I live in Europe.

I know, we both had latley a conversation about that, but its still bothering me.

Why i'm making this as a topic again is because i feel like its a blind spot of paizo and even if the Sales is very weak i do love the Game and do love the brand. So as a salesman my heart is bleeding seeing them lose money.

Most current Paizo products are in stock on Amazon.de, so not sure why they would take six weeks or more. Get Amazon Prime and the stuff arrives the next day. Hell, oder stuff like Ultimate Campaign from 1E is still there in stock.

Yes they are on Stock but the preorders are months later availible then it should be.

So in the case of Gods and Magic i will have to wait until end of april..
I asked amazon why this is the case, and the answer was simple, they have to wait for the delivery from Paizo.

Hello Paizo Team,

I love your products, but i'm very sad that it is impossible to get your products in less than six weeks.

When i order from Paizo it will be very expensive and will take weeks.

When i order from Amazon its very cheap but will take ever longer.

When i try to buy your products in a Store.. hm.. there are barely Stores in Europe for pf2 products.

i have a smal shop, but every distriburor who i'm working with told me that when i order for my shop it will take 8 weeks or more

I know europe isn't a big market for Paizo, but thats not because there are no players, it's because you guys seem to not want to make money in europe..

what could we do to change that?

dieMinne wrote:

Rysky wrote:

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Amazon does not make the book, and you can purchase it elsewhere, such as here from the people who do make it :3

The problem is not Amazon. I work in a smal gamesstore. When i want stuff from Paizo, i need to wait 6 weeks and pray everyday. and then, maybe paizo will send the stuff to europe. sometimes i think paizo dont want to make money in europe...

You're not dealing with Paizo directly, you're dealing with the distributor, just like Amazon does. And distributors in general and European in particular ... are wobbly. And even when they aren't, they tend to prioritize stuff that sells (5e) over a sideshow.

And Europe is, hate to break it in, something like 10% of D&D/PF market. Between everybody wanting their own language edition (and having to work with local companies to get them done), every country having its own peculiarities, several countries having their Favourite Fantasy RPG (Germany = DSA, Poland = Warhammer), it's really not a priority market if you can make fat cash in 80% of your market that's US+CAN without all those issues.

You are right its 10% of the market, but still a lot of money.

Yes i have my distributor, but they would loooooove to work faster with Paizo. Because the market for pf2 in europe wants to grow. But you cant get the Books, amazon is waiting for the delivery from Paizo, the distributors are waiting for Paizo eeeerveryone waits. And when you get it, the chance is very high that the product is broken.

It would be intresting if thats a blind spot for Paizo?

Back to topic, i orderd Gods and Magic for my Shop 4 Weeks ago. Maybe it will arrive next week. It will not be my bestseller but some costumers are waiting.

(For all future inquiries)

Amazon does not make the book, and you can purchase it elsewhere, such as here from the people who do make it :3

The problem is not Amazon. I work in a smal gamesstore. When i want stuff from Paizo, i need to wait 6 weeks and pray everyday. and then, maybe paizo will send the stuff to europe. sometimes i think paizo dont want to make money in europe...