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Wow! D&D shoes... that's a sure way to get your *** kicked if you are in school or something!

When I see FH in the posts,I get a little afraid of posting... afraid of getting corrected and afraid for my captives rouges... but I can't resist that sweet braaaaaaiiiiiiiinnsss... with so much skill points... huuuuuummmmmmmmm... damn you roug-ish police!

First of all, I have to say that I love D&D, it's mood and lots of the monsters, specially dragons and evil outsiders... I also love the more humanoid races of traditional villains and the savage humanoids, specially orcs... boy, they are fun!
But there is one thing that I can't buy... there are too many of them! I think it's hard to give some credit to all those civilizations and sizes and ages and all that crap... Where are all this things? Do they have to share rooms? Like two great wyrm roomies?
Sometimes it feels like pokemon... where the hell are the regular animals? Not the dire ones... Where do they found food enough to sustain all that horde of colossal monsters, gigantic insects and the countless civilizations of brain eating monsters?
How does that tiny village of human commoners is not eatean when the PC's are not there? How does civilizations of weak intelligent beings (like humans) can develop when there are stronger and smarters beings out there? It was hard enough to survive and to develop here in this world where we are by far the more inteligent beings... imagine in a world where there are lots of beings that find us as smart and strong (and tasty) as small farm pigs!

It's very simple... i was choosing my avatar image before the name... look at this guy... I don't think he's having a good time... soooooooooooooooooo boooooooooring...

Huummmmm... flan people... flan gods... mmmmmm... all with a nice syrup... mmmmm... spanish desserts...

mmm... that make's me think about a cruise... mmm... piña colada in a skull... mmm... brains...

Crap! I look all that thing and just comes to my mind how much money we spend on this things... they keep creating things and we people keep spending money... sometimes doesn´t matter how silly or non-sense it is...

Dude, nice answer to an interesting question.
I´ll add just one more thing, if you let me. Another thing to consider in a chaothic society is anarchy.
Remember that, althoug our ocidental society tries to rule that this is synonymous to mess, this is not. The real meanig of anarchy is that of a society without a State. There would be no government, cause the people would not need someone to represent them, as everyone would have the same importance in this true democracy. It´s hard for us to think that this would be possible, but this kind of society cannot be made in seven days, it is, for the ones that idealized it, a result of social change. It is due to a process of failures of the stabilished system, that we all can see is the real mess, and would be accomplished only by the right choices from the whole society. And the more important part and what most represent it: it cannot be forced to happen. This kind of revolution cannot be forced, this society would have to want it, no one could try do it against the participation of the citizens, otherwise would be just dictatorship.
Considering fantasy, once I made one setting were elves lived in anarchy. For me, they are the best canditates we have in classic fantasy to achieve this state of existence. That was not the kind of fantasy we see in the D&D settings, cause magic and unnatural things were much more rare or hidden, following the example of Tolkien´s third age. That made players a little bit lost when dealing with them for the first time.
And I had, just now, a funny and stupid thought...
Aliens arriving on my setting and saying: take me to your leader! And elves just staring at each other, confused...
See you!

where are the stats of the orog? which book?

Hey! Can´t agree more with you. I used to like the bard class back in ad&d... it was pretty weak (crap, really!) in the 3rd, but it´s nice now, in 3.5!
I think the biggest turn off of the bard for most people is that he doesn´t have much personal power. But he is very good at helping others do their job. You know, when everybody is doing tons of damage and exploding dozens of guys, it´s hard for most people to be just there assisting. But his help is necessary, altough very few people don´t notice it (or don´t want to). A party with one bard singing (or whatever) at the back is much more powerfull.
But the bard is the best in one thing... a little detail I like to call ROLEPLAY! When you stop trowing dice and start doing the best part of this game, you see what is the real fun!

In d&d I have three that would have some place in my memory:
Sti Ling, an ad&d half-elf bard who never went too far, but was fun to play. He was not the heroic kind of guy, but had a heart of gold. Was a player, never missing the chance to meet ladies, even when they were the sheriff´s wife (that was a fun story...). He never wanted the coins of the treasure, just the gems, that he would eventually give to ladies, thus being always the poorest guy on the group.
Rorack, an ad&d minotaur fighter, with the barbarian kit. He didn´t liked humans... or elves... or dwarves... or anyone who wasn´t a minotaur. He had the dream of uniting the tribes in a kingdom and rule the minotaurs to be a force in the world. Eventually he got tired of the group, beat the hell off the human paladin (who for some weird reason thought he was his friend) and left them to fullfill his dream.
The last was recent, in d&d 3rd edition, William Tuck III, a human mage who started as the group´s eventual 6th member, but them unite with them and found profound bounds of friendship. He was an adventurer by heart, but his wife was not crazy about it. He used teleports to go home, have dinner and... you know... and then teleport back to the group´s camp in the mourning. He had four children, but one of them died as a baby, sacrificed to the better good and to have his (the baby`s) soul purified, cause after Will got cursed by an ancient god, the baby was going to be kind of an anticrist. Ouch! That was traummatizing!

Man, I really tried to explain the characters, but they are already full of stories that are necessary to explain to have a hint of their true selves (at least most of them), and this was taking too much. So, this is just a briefing:
Khelben Senesaw, LG, human monk 11 of the old order, inicial member, dead once, follow some ideals of budism (example: discourage killing and just use non-lethal damage against living beings).
Respen Lianodel, CN, elf fighter 6/ mage 1/ arcane archer 4, inicial member, bad attitude, almost nothing of an elf traditional behavior, lacks the right ear after being tortured by drows when 7th level.
Nicholas Coldgaze, CG, half-elf rogue 10/ fighter 1, inicial member, dead once, teenager and arrogant, keep trying to avoid his father, who really creeps him out.
Hangorhas Stoneshield, NG, dwarf mage 3/ cleric 3/ mystic theurge 5 of Mystra, the top weird guy, old and kind of crazy, uses a pink robe and is the group´s grandpa, in fact is kind of sad, cause had to bury, in play, his father and his only son, who was the group´s fighter for a while. He was also banned from his village for turning to the human goddess of magic.
Sir Henry Jones (real name too long to write here), N, gnome conjurer 10, annoying joker, looks like Indiana Jones with half the height and twice the head size. New member.
Lots of others charactes fought side by side with them, some NPC´s, other PC´s, some has died, some has left and one give himself as a guarantee to a lich with whom the party was forced to bargain. The lich was specially glad, cause the guy was a druid (ouch!) and is becoming more and more insane.

Man, Szass Tam is the guy!
First of all, he is a lich, what is great: all that thing of coming back again and again, plus the fact that if he is messing with you, he is probably messing with your family/clan/city/tribe/whatever for generations. This last part is great, cause you maybe can track trouble back in history, making PC´s work their brains instead of their muscles for a while.
Then there is all that part of being a real bad ass in Thay. You will not have a chance to stand against him if your idea of confrontation is kicking his door and finding him in his slippers reading newspapers. He has a whole country of bad ass mages between him and the party, so he can avoid direct confrontation anytime.
And finally, if you ever confront him face to face, there is always that quickened-maximized-energy drain waiting for you...

I DM for a group in FR and their first adventures were in the western heartlands. Therefore they decided, after saving a small village from orc raiders, to call themselves "the sunset riders". This, of course, is one explanation. The other, maybe closer to the truth, is the fact that there is a bar, a few steps from my block, that`s called "sunset"...
Maybe I should ask the motivation next time... hehehehe.