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For ease of future editing and sharing with my table, I've been transcribing all the documents into Markdown (for use with mdBook). I'm currently trying to transcribe the base document with no unnoted changes (which I'll then use as a basis to layer on my table's changes and notes), and would be happy to share it with this thread if Kirth is ok with it.

This process has led to some things:

1. I'm slowly building a very thoroughly cross-linked version of the document, with a global index and search feature
2. I've been including notes with suggestions and clarifications from this forum thread where relevant, especially to fill gaps in
3. I've been noticing inconsistencies and errors (i.e. references to material that was moved or superseded), either because it was impossible for me to turn something into a link (as I couldn't find the referenced material) or because the text clearly vestigial

My current approach to this has been to add specifications in editor's notes (i.e. "this synergy also applied to domain powers, but these have been replaced with domain feats and thus this specific part of the feature makes no sense now"), and in rare cases where an important part of a feature/feat/skill use/etc. is made completely inoperational or nonsensical, try to fix it myself (with an editor's note specifying what the original version said). But getting clarifications from this thread is obviously better than just guessing by myself.

Now, this is to say that this will be the first of a bunch of questions that are part of a completely unasked for process of proofreading and reformatting:

Some paragon classes give you access to a domain's spells as an array of spell like abilities. Am I right in assuming this was written with domains having one spell per level in mind, and now that they have entire spell-lists it should probably be turned into gaining an array of spell-like abilities picked from the domain's spells?

Domain Sorcerer confuses me. I'm not sure if their Eldritch Blast is an at-will or an X/day ability.

The way I read it you outright lose the blast and instead channel like an Archivist, including times/day.

In 3.5, arcane casters could learn spells not on their spell lists, but required roleplay, finding the spells and specially studying them. Strangely, that fact seems to always be missed or forgotten.

Agreed, that's always been how I did it. It seems KF just generalises this to "you can learn any arcane spell you can get your hands on full stop and have no list to begin with", which to be honest I really like. I just wanted to be sure there wasn't a "core list" I was missing or something.

I've been using the Ranger spell list from Kirthfinder circa 2014.

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Oh that's great! I guess it can then be expanded/changed as needed to integrate other sources or themes but it's great to have a base!

What about Bard/Sorcerer/Wizard? Is my assessment that they can literally just learn anything arcane correct? That would mean nothing stops a Wizard from getting a spell seed as one of their starting spells aside from the amount of Metamagic feats needed to make them work at higher levels, which seems reasonable to me to be honest (they're probably also the only class that could make it work in the first place).

On the topic of spell lists: I see that some classes (Druid, Cleric) list them explicitly, while others (Ranger, Wizard, Sorcerer), don't.

For Wizard and Archivist I assume they can just transcribe any spell of appropriate type that's not explicitly restricted, but what about others? Do I just assume that i.e. the Ranger's spell list is "any spell which in its source book is listed as a Ranger spell, rebuilt with the spell building system"?

In that case, do the classes with explicit spell lists just have them as a way to mark the spells that don't fall under a specific domain, making the above reasoning universal?