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Wizened wrote:

Please do me the courtesy of reading the full post before responding.

I read the full post.

That's your only option. You're not willing to pay shipping. Paizo has a solution that meets your unwillingness to pay a "100% price premium".

Unsubscribe. Purchase product locally. Pay Paizo $9.99 for PDFs. Resubscribe after product is shipped.

No 100% premium. Cheaper than shipping.

Brian,

You are missing the fundamental point of my post. This is not about shipping costs but about how to deal with this & future $30+ products that are classified as games due to the inclusion of 'toy' components such as dice & figures - this is the reason that certain non NA subscibers will be hit with import duties that push the cost of these otherwise reasonably priced products into the daftly expensive price bracket.

I have no issue with shipping and haven't since I bought the first products with Paizo back in December 2006. Similar to yourself I subscribe to a broad swath of the Pathfinder and Golarion products and happily pay the shipping costs, this is a convenient and cost appropriate way to get my Paizo fix.

Whilst I appreciate your enthusiasm & comments on this thread I am actually hoping for a more authoritative response to this particular issue - we can all kick around suggestions / throw out one-liners / offer support but ultimately it is Paizo that make the decisions & put them into action. Paizoans, any comment?

Wizened wrote:

and please people hold off from the pseudo-anodyne response to cancel & then re-subscribe after this product has shipped as that does not address the core issues of shipping these type of products that will be classified as games or toys to non local subscribers.

Please explain how the "pseudo-anodyne response" does not address this.

Please do me the courtesy of reading the full post before responding. As stated -

I would like to receive this product and the associated pdfs but not at the almost 100% price premium.

Therefore I suggest that removing this item from the subscription is patently not the solution I am looking for.

As a number of people I see little direct value in this product but I have no compunction in letting this box set slide gently into my ever growing collection of Paizo products apart from one issue. The problem I have is as an overseas subscriber the constituent components of this one product plus the projected size / weight make it very expensive. Due to the nature of overseas shipping costs plus the fact that it will contain certain 'toy' components (dice + figures) will mean a number of regions will classify it as a product liable for import duties. The direct result is that this will double the cost. So a very reasonably priced product is now over-priced for those of us who are non North American subscribers.

This is a shame and because this debate has been raging now for 3 months with some very strong comments on both sides we are getting a very hard-line response from all concerned. I would like to receive this product and the associated pdfs but not at the almost 100% price premium. Whilst I imagine that local North American customers make up the large majority of the Paizo customers some of us from the old countries are long-time mass category subscribers and would like a solution.

I have been dipping into this forum over the weeks looking to see if we are getting closer to an appropriate long-term solution. However, and I am sure that it is not the Paizo staff intention, the impression given in the official responses in this thread (such as from Vic) is that this is not an issue to which they need to find a solution - and please people hold off from the pseudo-anodyne response to cancel & then re-subscribe after this product has shipped as that does not address the core issues of shipping these type of products that will be classified as games or toys to non local subscribers.

This is a very emotive topic for a lot of people passionate about the game and I hope that any ill-feeling that this topic has caused is short lived. Myself & my players all want to just get on and play the game and the Paizo subscription model is a very convenient way to collect the wealth of official PFRPG & Golarion material being created. I'd just like us to find the necessary tweaks that will make including any expensive ($30+) non-book products in the subscriptions less toxic to non NA subscribers.