Wow, that PDF price surprised me. I assume it's to serve a dual purpose: make it easy for players to get the rules for cheap and to make it price competitive to buy the book from another retailer (Amazon, Borders with one of those coupons they always have). I was debating for myself whether to subscribe or buy from Amazon. I think now I'm going to buy it from Amazon and later get the PDF. I know Paizo likes people subscribing, but given that money is tight for me and I'm still catching up on old Pathfinder books, I need to save all the money I can and Amazon's good for that.
Going to get this had me going to a local game shop I didn't even know existed. I might have to go back sometime, though. It was a pretty nice little place. And something that did kind of surprise me was that it had given about equal space in its shelving units to Pathfinder stuff and 4E. It seems that they're both doing pretty well.
I also snagged the 4E module and Paranoia book. I'm not too much of a 4E fan, but I do like Eberron and the module's plot can always be adapted to 3.5. Plus, the tile section it came with can work with any version of D&D. I would've grabbed the free dice too, but what's the point of a set of two polyhedron dice that doesn't even have a d20 in it?
Huh. I might have to look at the Tome of Horrors again. There definitely doesn't seem to be any official, Wizards of the Coast version. There's a monster search thing here for 3.5 stuff:
Red vs Blue does have some awesome quotes.
"She ripped Jimmy's skull out and beat him to death with it."
Yeah, a set of every monster from the Bestiary would be insanely big. It'd make a lot more sense to do a set of goblins, a set of ogres, a set of zombies / skeletons, a set of elementals, a set of demons, a woodland set with nymphs and centaurs, etc... The entire Bestiary could be covered between them without forcing you to buy all of the sets to get the specific ones you want. And let's be honest here: does anyone ever use EVERY monster from any monster book? Unless you're playing the World's Largest Dungeon, of course.
Honestly, the easiest way to merge settings like this is just to stick on a really, really far away continent. Maybe have there be large storm systems around it to explain the near-total isolation between it and the Inner Sea region we're familiar with in Pathfinder.
Or, if I remember correctly some of stuff in the Second Darkness issues of Pathfinder, there is precedent for world-linking portals in Golarion. It's a bit of a plot device, but you could have someone have just recently found and reactivated a portal that leads to another planet that contains Ptolus. Thus, the two settings could have developed in isolation and later meet. On a similar path, we could start pulling out Spelljammer, Dragonstar, or Planescape to link them together if we want to get really complicated.
I'd rather have two pages and have everything come out nicer than one and have them be squished like mad.
On the subject of toggling between different settings: why not just include each version in the file we download? I may not be a computer expert, but I really doubt a single PDF file containing the data for all of those options would wind up having much of a smaller file size than several separate PDFs, each with one of the combinations.
1: The personalization problem. Is it possible to get this PDF revised so that that space is left blank? It's kind of annoying to have that text on the mini's base. Also, this may just be me and my printer, but I could print the first two sets just fine with scaling set to none but this set has part of the last few figures' bases cut off if I do that. The margins seem just a little too tight on this set, probably due to their being more put on a single page than in the previous ones.
2: Would it be possible to go back to the black bases or to maybe have the PDF include both versions on seperate pages? I prefer them over the white ones, personally.
I'm going to have to echo this. The sets so far do seem pretty neat, but I wouldn't mind a slightly lower price point. Especially after the current sale ends. I'm 3 for 3 right now, but I'm not sure that will last.
I don't know if a full set of just wizards would be needed, but I'm just suggesting that if you want people to use these as the primary minis of a campaign you need to make sure to make some PC-friendly sets and not just the monsters and NPCs of the Pathfinder arc. Heck, even the iconics don't cover all of the race/gender combos you can do with the primary races. To be able to really make these usable for PCs, it'd probably be good to do say, a set of dwarves in various clothing and armor styles with various weapons, a similar set of elves, and so on. "Old human wizard with a pointy hat" may be a cliche but people still want to play it sometimes and they're going to be annoyed if they can't just because it wasn't picked as a Pathfinder iconic and their DM wants to use these minis. The monsters for the Pathfinder arcs are important, but the players will probably want cool and at least somewhat-unique-looking characters to play as while fighting them.
Question: when we will be seeing some PC minis? The two sets so far seem nice, but are both pretty much NPC-oriented. Well, I guess you could have a gnoll or one of the caravan members as a PC, but that's limiting your concepts a lot. When will we be getting some more standard adventurers? We could use some elves, dwarves, halflings, and whatnot to be able to really build a party.
Erik Mona wrote:
I think Sibbecai would would perfectly. The market city of Katapesh attracts visitors from literally all over the multiverse, so the opportunity to play an unusual PC race is basically built into this campaign in a way that is quite different from our other offerings to date.
Interesting. That is a big change from say, Rise of the Runelords, which tends to assume that the characters are from Sandpoint.
I'm looking forward to this, but I'm going to have to wait. I'm getting it from Amazon. No offense to Paizo, but Amazon's store has most Pathfinder stuff at similar prices to what they are after the subscription discount but without a shipping charge (assuming that you have enough for Super Saver shipping). Does anyone know when Amazon will be getting their copies?
Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:
Well, do you want Eberron and Golarion to be on the same plane or not? If they're not, a quick plane shift is all it takes. A plot along the lines of "<insert evil group> from <insert plane> is building an army to invade the various material planes" could be the hook. The party defeats a group of demons or whatever, goes through the portal they came from, and fights a bunch more on the other side. The portals start failing, including the Eberron one, and the only one left to take is the Golarion one. The rest writes itself.
Alternatively, if they are in the same plane, then you could do some kind of space travel story. I'd look into Spelljammer or Dragonstar for ideas for that.