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Hello all, wondering on the damage progression here. Elephant, Common is a Huge beast with a gore attack at a base damage of 2d8

Fine Dim. Tiny Small Medium Large Huge Garg. Col.
Gore 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 4d6

but that is however, "gargantuan" on the table. So as per the spell,

Strong Jaw wrote:
Each natural attack that creature makes deals damage as if the creature were two sizes larger than it actually is. If the creature is already Gargantuan or Colossal-sized, double the amount of damage dealt by each of its natural attacks instead.

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So then for a Huge Elephant with a Garg. size base gore, does it go to from 2d8>4d6>8d6? Or perhaps since it's already at one base size up by default, go to only 4d6?

Thanks much in advance, I couldn't find this in any thread in the search function.


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Wonderstell wrote:

Nah, it wouldn't stack.

Maybe if you had two heads, but even then it's not guaranteed.

Is there any particular rule that says this won't work or stack? The feat says "you grow an additional appendage of your choice" including a gore attack. If multiple claw/slam attacks can exist, why not multiple horn/tusk combinations exist? Let's say I have tusks and a rhino horn, for instance.

I'm looking at this section in the Natural Attacks rule:

"you receive additional attack rolls for multiple limb and body parts capable of making the attack"

and I'm not seeing why this won't work?


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rule text:

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/mutated-shape/

I'm wondering if I chose, say, a gore attack, that this would STACK with another gore attack. I would assume yes, but wasn't 100%. I'm mostly wondering if this works for 'single' NA such as bite, gore, etc. Thanks in advance.


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There's an Earth/Earth kineticist in my CotCT group that deals insane damage and has a huge hp pool. At level 8-10 he's 1 shotting a lot of things including bosses on lucky crits (some minor bosses without) with metakinesis, and he hits reliably. Aside from what everyone else has already said, that's my xp with kineticist.


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Hi all, I couldn't find an answer to this problem

For the Barbarian archetype Titan Mauler:

"At 2nd level, a titan mauler may choose to wield a two-handed melee weapon in one hand with a –2 penalty on attack rolls while doing so. The weapon must be appropriately sized for her, and it is treated as one-handed when determining the effect of Power Attack, Strength bonus to damage, and the like."

And under the Fighter's Advanced Weapon Training:

"Effortless Dual-Wielding (Ex) The fighter treats all one-handed weapons that belong to the associated weapon group as though they were light weapons when determining his penalties on attack rolls for fighting with two weapons. Source PPC:BotB"

My question is: do the two-handed weapons under the weapon groups for Advance Weapon Training: Effortless Dual-Wielding fall under "and the like" for Jotungrip and are thus considered 'light weapons' in this case?

Thanks.