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Evan Tarlton wrote:

Sarenrae starting as an angel was from Asmodeus. The Windsong Testaments have her as one of the first nine gods. https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sgzu

Gotta wonder if we are dealing with contradictory mythology here or just the fallen angel dude being an unreliable narrator.

My impression is that she may be one of the earliest examples of an Empyreal Lord who then achieved true godhood after Ihys died.

Saloc, The Minder of Immortals, is the psychopomp usher that handles dead gods and their cases in Pharasma's court.

Saloc is about to be VERY busy.

Oh! Also, his pettiness about always being the tallest being in the room is kinda cute for a big grumpy war god.

I'm bummed to see Gorum go. I really liked him.

Unlike other gods, he's neither one of the OG gods nor is he an ascended mortal. He was just the concept of war itself achieving divinity from when orcs and humans first clashed in the age of darkness. His origin is simply unique.

Having the god of war be indifferent to sides in a war was cool too. Made him a perfect fit for the more mercenary minded while also avoiding having some favored faction of the god of war which would of felt kinda one sided.

He's also the god of Amiri and Oloch, two of my fave iconics. Outcasts from warrior cultures who like it LOUD! I find estranged family relations and codes of honor that don't mesh well with society relatable too. I wonder how they're handling Gorum's death?

He was a cool god with cool followers, no matter what anyone says. I'm gonna miss our lord in iron.

I'd love an Anarchist Champion now that we are fully divorcing from alignment.

As an anarchist, I approve.

I gotta say, Rovagug being marked safe really lowered my expectations for War of the Immortals.

With him alive, can it ever really be a war of the immortals? Rovagug's death feels like a requirement for a war between gods to happen (this prophecy also hammers that point home too) and since he's safe, all I can really forsee is a cold war of the immortals at best and that doesn't seem nearly as fun or enticing.

Rovagug's death also would of put the end times into question, which would really put an exciting spin on things as it could make this event feel like the potential end times. Instead, it doesn't feel like much if anything will change regardless of who dies now.

I'm sure there's still an interesting story to be had here but idk if it's going to scratch that itch the announcement of this event gave me.

We'll just wait and see.

Anyone else think Groetus may be behind the prophecies?

He's a god with the void domain and is big on hopelessness and prophecies of the end times. He's also a sort of fundamental function of the universe so Yivali might be onto something there.

Moon Hags (or whatever they're called now) are also known for future sight iirc and they're associated with Groetus. Perhaps one of them wrote the prophecies?

The Pathfinder universe is unraveling into a multiverse of possibility.

I'm beginning to think these prophecies are all true.

At least...

In their own respective timelines.

iirc, Urgathoa was the very first undead in the lore. The first to blasphemy against the natural cycle of life and death. As the first undead and undead god at that, a bunch of undead and diseases were also created following her ascension.

If this is true, then Urgathoa may be intrinsically tied to the underlying mechanics of undeath itself. Her dying could indeed change the rules of undeath. Without her effectively dictating what the very rules of undeath are through her very existence, some chaos is to be expected. This wouldn't necessarily undo undeath itself though so much as change it.

What I find more interesting about this prophecy is that it actually doesn't focus on Urgathoa at all. It's almost entirely about Arazni.

Between Yivali's comments on the weirdness of this prophecy focusing on Arazni and the meta knowledge of Arazni joining the core pantheon, I think it may be that Arazni is more powerful than even Arazni herself realizes.

There are fragments of truth in these prophecies I think. Arazni may be gifted as a potential god-slayer. Interesting if true, and the implications of such a gift in the future of the events to come make Arazni a god to keep a very close eye on.

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