Starfinder species you're excited to see more options for


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So, the upside of PF2's ancestry system is that while ancestries aren't as front-loaded, they can often end up with more overall. (And as a reminder for folks who haven't seen yet, flight is being looked at to be more available to SF playable species than it is in PF, since ranged combat is a bigger core assumption.)

Personally, I'm looking forward to more Embri options. They're a cool species lore-wise, but none of their features really "pop". That, and Spathinae. They've got a lot of features already, but it'd be cool to see what a high-level feat looks like for them.


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Skitterlancers. They sound really cool.

Shirren. What? I want *more*

Borai. So much to work with.

Those multi-legged things from the cover of Alien Archive 3 unless they are skitterlancers.

Hang on, just what are skitterlancers? In my mind they are creatures that cleanse the universes of skittermancers. Raight?

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OceanshieldwolPF 2.5 wrote:
Hang on, just what are skitterlancers? In my mind they are creatures that cleanse the universes of skittermancers. Raight?

...are you talking about stridermanders?

I'd love to see more about stelliferas. I definitely want to know more about their history and culture, but I think they're rife for mechanical support, too - just making stuff up, but maybe something for those that specialize in self-contained heavy or power armours, thus freeing up the psychokinetics usually used for carrying around a hydrobody to do other stuff?

I'd also like to see expanded options for borais, especially their Old Lives schtick. It's a cool idea, and if it could be expanded to let us make borais of any (or at least many) species, that'd be awesome!


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I suppose kobolds with feats that lean into starfinders framing of them, rather than the pathfinder framing of them. PF2e leaned abit too far into them being a joke.

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I will be curious to see just how much retread vs new stuff we see.


Kishmo wrote:
OceanshieldwolPF 2.5 wrote:
Hang on, just what are skitterlancers? In my mind they are creatures that cleanse the universes of skittermancers. Raight?

...are you talking about stridermanders?

I'd love to see more about stelliferas. I definitely want to know more about their history and culture, but I think they're rife for mechanical support, too - just making stuff up, but maybe something for those that specialize in self-contained heavy or power armours, thus freeing up the psychokinetics usually used for carrying around a hydrobody to do other stuff?

I'd also like to see expanded options for borais, especially their Old Lives schtick. It's a cool idea, and if it could be expanded to let us make borais of any (or at least many) species, that'd be awesome!

Hmm. Well…huh. I think I probably was - must have misread something somewhere and then misremembered what I misread. Or something. Ok well, *not* stridermanders then. They look…sillier than skittermanders, which I didn’t think was possible. (Thanks for the link and correction Kishmo!)

I definitely want to be able to play as whatever that multi-limbed thing is on the cover of Alien Archive 3.


Omigod I’m so bad at this. Must be getting old.

Sorry. *not* Borai. I was getting them mixed up with Copaxi.

So, to be clear:

* Copaxi - coral amalgamates FTW!

* Shirren - decisions decisions!

* Multilimbed thing from cover of Alien Archive 3 - looks way cool

Ok, I got it all right now. I promise.


I can definitely see Barathu getting a lot of potential from ancestry feats. Maybe they'll be able to change out their ancestry feats as part of their Daily Preperations?


Ryphorians are my forever love and I can only hope they don’t take too long to make it across.


Contemplatives will always be my favorite Starfinder alien. Give me some weird psychic stuff.


Given that my initial plan is to play nothing but Skittermanders... I think you can guess :D

A skittermander Soldier with a gun as big as himself will be hilarious XD


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vlaka please. Dogos need something

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There are lots of species that have not been made available for SFS. I hope more of those become available for organized play in SF2e.

Stellifera and SROs come to mind, but there are many others around 40 to so.


Good point on the SRO's. I want to play a robot almost as much as a Skittermander. They should have options for a lot of customization.


I'm looking forward to formians in PF2E's system of feat selection. It goes well with a biological caste system like colony insect aliens would have.

Hopefully they don't wind up a victim of the OGL/remaster change.


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SRO would be my dream core race. IMO a sci-fi setting should let you play a robot out of the box. I'd go so far as to heretically say if android and SRO were fighting over a core ancestry spot I'd prefer SRO to win out.


Perpdepog wrote:

I'm looking forward to formians in PF2E's system of feat selection. It goes well with a biological caste system like colony insect aliens would have.

Hopefully they don't wind up a victim of the OGL/remaster change.

They'd get a new name at the very least


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That's my hope. IIRC the formians in PF/SF don't have a lot in common with their roots, being aliens rather than extraplanar beings.

WWHsmackdown wrote:
SRO would be my dream core race. IMO a sci-fi setting should let you play a robot out of the box. I'd go so far as to heretically say if android and SRO were fighting over a core ancestry spot I'd prefer SRO to win out.

Not to mention that, with androids already being an option in PF2E, and the two systems being compatible, there is less reason for androids to have to be core when Starfinder has its own ancestry options to fill the mechanical character slot. The operative iconic is an android though, which may lean us back in the direction of androids being in core.


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I'm an outspoken cheerleader for Lashunta, so their seemingly-obvious inclusion here is great news for me. One of my longtime dreams has been to have the tools for a campaign on Castrovel or Akiton, so them + any combination of Formians, Ikeshti, and Shobhads would all make me a very happy gal indeed.


I'm really hoping that formians, in whatever form they end up in, make it back into the game so I can recreate my formian mystic from SF and bring everyone's favorite hippy aunt-mom into the new edition.

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I'd like to see more done with goblins in Starfinder. And hope they become playable in organized play. I'd love to make a goblin pilot who thinks they are much better piolt than they are. Luckily they are a much better mechanic. My goal for them is never to have a safe landing...


Driftbourne wrote:

There are lots of species that have not been made available for SFS. I hope more of those become available for organized play in SF2e.

Stellifera and SROs come to mind, but there are many others around 40 to so.

Stellifera are available and I believe their source is fairly obvious once you know they're around.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Driftbourne wrote:

There are lots of species that have not been made available for SFS. I hope more of those become available for organized play in SF2e.

Stellifera and SROs come to mind, but there are many others around 40 to so.

Stellifera are available and I believe their source is fairly obvious once you know they're around.

I own Escape from the Prison Moon, So I'm just going to play it. SROs are in Interstellar Species I own that too so as far as I'm concerned it's playable too.


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I own Escape from the Prison Moon, So I'm just going to play it. SROs are in Interstellar Species I own that too so as far as I'm concerned it's playable too.

Well, that would get you on your way to one...

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Driftbourne wrote:


I own Escape from the Prison Moon, So I'm just going to play it. SROs are in Interstellar Species I own that too so as far as I'm concerned it's playable too.

Well, that would get you on your way to one...

If I'm going to play part of that AP I want to play all of it. with play-by-post being my only Starfinder option that's a year-long commitment I can't predict that I can stick too.

Even the live Pathfinder games here are usually only 2 times per month, making it really hard to gain enough achievement points to play the ancestors you like. I feel like player rewords shouldn't be getting access to something you already own, especially options that are part of character creation. I have never once bought one of the items that became available at the end of a scenario in organized play. My characters never have enough credits or gold to buy them. I don't even look at the chronicle sheets anymore when I get them. The only reward I or my characters get from organized play is I get to play at all.

Correction: I have the klikharp companion, Society Subdermal Graft, and Society Diversification (Cognates) boons. But none of these cost any credits. I don't have any for Pathfinder boons at all and have played 3 times as many PFS scenarios.

Guess I just don't get how organized play rewards are supposed to work. Reading over my old chronicles, I found an item on my 3rd chronicle My character would have loved to have, but to get it I would have had to not buy any equipment at creation, and saved all my gold from all my adventures up to that point to be able to afford it. That's when I just stopped even looking that the chronicles.

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SRO. And Anacites?

Androids exist in PF2, but they have a very different place in the setting for obvious reasons.
I haven't actually played a PF2 Android, I dunno how well their feats translate.

Kishmo wrote:
OceanshieldwolPF 2.5 wrote:
Hang on, just what are skitterlancers? In my mind they are creatures that cleanse the universes of skittermancers. Raight?

...are you talking about stridermanders?

I'd love to see more about stelliferas. I definitely want to know more about their history and culture, but I think they're rife for mechanical support, too - just making stuff up, but maybe something for those that specialize in self-contained heavy or power armours, thus freeing up the psychokinetics usually used for carrying around a hydrobody to do other stuff?

I'd also like to see expanded options for borais, especially their Old Lives schtick. It's a cool idea, and if it could be expanded to let us make borais of any (or at least many) species, that'd be awesome!

I can see Borai as a Versatile Heritage, maybe.


Skittermanders, obviously. Also: alkainans, anassanoi, brenneri, dirindi and sazarons, gathols, hadrogaans, ixtangi, kaa-leki, ramiyels, seprevoi, tromlins, tryziarkas, and varratanas (it was only partly deliberate that they're mostly in alphabetical order). And I'd really like to see some proper info on the inhabitants of Taru Seco, even if they're kind of viewed as a lost cause.

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Invemians. Basically anything to do with Kazmurg's Absurdity, TBH.

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I love SRO's and I agree that they should be a core ancestry for a sci-fan setting. My only concern is how will they differentiate themselves from Automatons (already an ancestry in PF2e).

In my mind they're flavor should have a focus on the fact that they weren't "meant" to be sentient, and how their emergent sentience interacts with a world of science and magic.

Overall, of a star spanning adventure, I want non-humanoid options. Non-bipedal, get weird, we're talking ALIENS!


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Driftbourne wrote:
Guess I just don't get how organized play rewards are supposed to work. Reading over my old chronicles, I found an item on my 3rd chronicle My character would have loved to have, but to get it I would have had to not buy any equipment at creation, and saved all my gold from all my adventures up to that point to be able to afford it. That's when I just stopped even looking that the chronicles.

So... I don't know how SFS works, but in PFS, it's totally possible to qualify for the gear first, and then build up the money to buy it onto your character sheet.

I admit, as someone on the outside looking in, SROs look like they could be really cool... or really not, depending on how they were implemented.

I really hope that the potential wackiness/game-bendy factor is higher for SF2 ancestries than PF2. Weird aliens should be weird.

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Exactly! Weird aliens should be weird. How about the swarm colony they got.

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Zoken44 wrote:

I love SRO's and I agree that they should be a core ancestry for a sci-fan setting. My only concern is how will they differentiate themselves from Automatons (already an ancestry in PF2e).

They're in different games, and also nothing alike.

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I was just expressing concern at how some might view. And given how they've redesigned the soldier, they are clearly trying to avoid overlap, hence my comparison to the closest PF2e equivalent.


I'd like to see the Dhampir be made available. I was disappointed that they weren't in 1e. Though I understand why, as there aren't many vampires in space. Though I'm sure there are bound to be plenty in the shadow plane, so certainly possible for Dhampirs to exist. I also wish there was a race similar to the Zabrak from Star Wars. That would make for an interesting experience. Maybe have an optional list of possible mutations for one's character to create something truly unique?


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Vampire "I die in sunlight

Star shaman "Did you know that the stars are just very distant suns?

Vampire "I did no....Oh..." Crumples to ash.


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I would assume you could just grab the Dhampir Versatile Heritage from PF2 and make it work right away.

Since it's a Versatile Heritage you can now have a Shirren who is a Dhampir, a Ysoki who is a Dhampir, a Raxalite who is a Dhampir, an Entu who is a Dhampir, an SRO that is a Dhampir, etc. If it doesn't make sense to you, then don't play that character I guess.


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A borai who's a dhampir.


Perpdepog wrote:
A borai who's a dhampir.

Borai would be a versatile heritage, they already basically are in SF1e.


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Yeah... dhampir seems like an obvious case for the value of the PF2/SF2 crossover. It would be weird and niche in Starfinder, but technically possible. If your GM wants to let you play one, there are rules right there that fit just fine, and are balanced with everything else. If they don't... well, it's not annoying them by eating up space in a Starfinder book, and there's no need for Paizo to figure out how this super-rare but technically possible thing fits in to any existing worlds.


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Yeah... dhampir seems like an obvious case for the value of the PF2/SF2 crossover.

Having anxiously hoped they would have added Dhampir as an option when they went in deep on vampires in Horizons of the Vast #3 and coming away disappointed, I agree that PF2E covering a lot of ground in fantasy staples already is one of the best cases put forward for adapting SF to PF2e's ruleset. It allows the Starfinder books to cover the space/sci-fi covered options, which is something they've always stressed they were more focused on in publishing SF1 anyways.


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Planar Scion (Undine) as a Versatile Heritage would work well with a kobold bloodline I'm trying to carry into the future from PF2(?)

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Ramiyels I would love to see more of - including being allowed into organized play. But... I suspect they'll fall to OGL. While the name and description at first seems new to starfinder, if you read between the lines of their article and futz with pronunciation a bit... these snake-tailed ladies were probably Lamia Matriarchs that sometime during the gap lost their evil obsessions.

While other media have pretty much locked on to 'snake-tail lady with arms = lamia' I don't know if that's enough to take the setup away from WotC.


They're In PF2. They've made appearances in starfinder. In concert.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
They're In PF2. They've made appearances in starfinder. In concert.

Lamia in PF2 were brought in with Bestiary 1 - before the OGL problems. Ramiyel (as far as I know) have only been in their adventure path article and one as a villain in one SFS scenario (and a paragraph that 'they exist' in interstellar species). If you've seen canon lamia in SF or other references to Ramiyels I'd love to hear it.


thistledown wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
They're In PF2. They've made appearances in starfinder. In concert.
Lamia in PF2 were brought in with Bestiary 1 - before the OGL problems. Ramiyel (as far as I know) have only been in their adventure path article and one as a villain in one SFS scenario (and a paragraph that 'they exist' in interstellar species). If you've seen canon lamia in SF or other references to Ramiyels I'd love to hear it.

Oh. I think I got confused as to which part of the lego criter was which but I meant Tsuchio from strawberry machine cake, and a few of her devoted fans.


Aren't D&D lamias lion-bodied?


Perpdepog wrote:
Aren't D&D lamias lion-bodied?

Both, basic Lamia (kitty) and then Lamia Matriarch (snek).

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
thistledown wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
They're In PF2. They've made appearances in starfinder. In concert.
Lamia in PF2 were brought in with Bestiary 1 - before the OGL problems. Ramiyel (as far as I know) have only been in their adventure path article and one as a villain in one SFS scenario (and a paragraph that 'they exist' in interstellar species). If you've seen canon lamia in SF or other references to Ramiyels I'd love to hear it.
Oh. I think I got confused as to which part of the lego criter was which but I meant Tsuchio from strawberry machine cake, and a few of her devoted fans.

Ah, yeah Tsuchi-ko is (probably) a serpentfolk. Though we don't actually get a description-line for her and serpentfolk aren't an ancestry described in starfinder, so...


Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
Aren't D&D lamias lion-bodied?
Both, basic Lamia (kitty) and then Lamia Matriarch (snek).

Oh. I thought that split came from Pathfinder, not D&D.

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