Treating them as just one creature with its own CR.
I will work out the math but I think it's a lot simpler than 1000s of NPCs. And could be fun to have the other players as 'Heros' Before a massed army.
Also All heroes can be in her Psionic Collective, so they can talk to each other and coordinate actions. She can also heal them by the link and use teamwork feats, across it.
This would push her into a more supporting rule, but from what you have just said about Catzilla, I think we need a 'team plan'
This is all dependent on you picking her of course.
I really like the idea that is an Army of Mice she has called into place to give to Reepacheep, Guardian of the Gates of Heaven, Commander of the Fourth Host of Mount Celestia and General of the 3rd Abyssal Crusade, leading into war, as in the image.
Having other army parts link up with other chosen players.
Such as a detachment of giants or undead etc.
With 600k NPC, She could offer each player a 100,000 NPC sub-army to command.
I kind of think is could make the game more fun, with a mass of meat shields. And let the players describe how they set out their battlements, attacks etc.
As this level of PC leading should an army would be something we may have all done before.
Like I said she seems to be falling into a supporting role.
PS You did after all say let's go crazy.
100,000 Army could be simple as
Level 1 NPC Fighters 60,000 / NPC Range fighters 30,000 / NPC Skemish Fighters x 8,000
Level 2 NPC Other x 1,500
Level 3 Cleric x 200 / Mages x 200
Level 4 Knight Commanders x 50 / Clerics Commanders x10 / Mages Commanders x10
Level 5 General x1
Those knowledgeable in the workings of the upper planes might recognise this pint size terror as Reepacheep, Guardian of the Gates of Heaven, Commander of the Fourth Host of Mount Celestia and General of the 3rd Abyssal Crusade. It is said that whole armies of demons have quit the field of battle at the mere suggestion of his approach!
Bit of fun
A woman in simple back clothing and eyes that burn blue. Bends down and places a small table with a selection of fine cheeses and biscuits on it before the Commander of the Fourth Host. Taking a small seat of also mouse size. She places that in front of the table for him to sit on. She had not been there a moment before, standing back up she smiled down at him.
::"I recommend the Bree, it's very fresh."::
Her voice speaks into his mind and his alone.
Rosa has an ability that hides her psionic nature from every form of detection. But as she tends only use telepathy to communicate. So Its not hard to work out she is psionic in some way.
@Bolvar Gemforged, Right on, Right on, Right on, another Godling, Coool..
At this level, does anything else really make sense? Plus, a mighty godling and a clever godling make for a good team.
I like your thinking, I found this cool image of ROSA IMAGE HERE
If you are going for the massive hard hitter TITAN. Then Rosa would be flying at his head height, as a mote of pour power, ripping the world apart with force shockwaves and telekinetics effects. If anyone is linked to her Hivemind, [Callective] she can bust, protect and heal you.
I like that Idea,
Just worked out Rosa has 62,500 ish followers.
I am not! working out their stats.
But it was fun working out how many I could get her, I think I can get a few 1000 more with some of the godling stuff.
I like that Idea,
Just worked out Rosa has 62,500 ish followers.
I am not! working out their stats.
But it was fun working out how many I could get her, I think I can get a few 1000 more with some of the godling stuff.
Ancestry: Players may choose one of the following: 1) Create a brand new ancestry, up to 41 RP. All traits are allowed, except Advanced Ability Scores. 2) Modify an existing ancestry again up to 41 RP. 3) Monsters are allowed, but each one needs to be approved. The monster’s CR will be deducted from your total CR, as it’s too difficult to mess around with it only costing half your gestalt or something.
Also
Templates are allowed, again on a case by case basis. The one primary caveat is that you can’t take one that adds more than +6 to a given ability score. So, no Dread Wraith Sovereign, since that gives a +20 to Dex, lol. Much like monsters, a template will reduce your total CR.
So going to have to work out what that dose to the Mighty template
So this can be simple if you just pick and monster with CR30 or below.
Take its stat block and add 10 Mythic levels,
See what feats /traits you have left over once you deduct the ones your monster has. In this case you keep its stats and not get the normal or RP41 bust as outlined by the GM.
@Ouachitonian, it can be crazy, but so much fun doing.
Levels and stuff, this is my understanding of build, and I'm with @Andreww on my understanding.
On the other thread, the GM said its players ger,
L30/L30/T10Mythic
With, really it's 20+10Epic/20+10Epic/T10Mythic
Other build notes:
With feats from each side being
20 feats [Noraml Levels]
10 feats [Epic levels]
10 Feats [Mythic]
+ any class feats etc
States starting block for a listed normal class with RP41 or below.
30,26,26,24,24,24
Place at level 1
You can move points around at that time as well, from stat to stat, I know I have.
Then 7x2=14 leveling stat bust, place as you see fit.
Monsters are allowed up to CR30 on one side of the Gshtolt and you take their stats over the starting ones above for normal races, you still get a level bust of +2 every 4 levels. [+14 in all]
You can use templates but not any that bust any one stat more than +6
Epic stat bust is still to be agreed on.
We are seeing some main stats hitting 70ish.
3) Obviously, I'm nowhere near being ready to pick players, but I'm gonna be hard pressed not to choose The Demiurge based on that little RP snippet! LOL
Thanks for that. Just to note, the stat block for Demiurge is on his profile. He is ridiculous. There are likely to be errors!
I feel ya, Rosa is shaping up to be very hard mentally just tracking things, so many things overlap but don't add. Just the same thing from another root. I have just decided to focus on the idea of who and what she is, go tone of the PC over munchkin silliness.
Thanks for the outline GM, she will have a lot of followers but working on making them not too crazy. Filling out Rosa nicely.
The old bard sat in the burning man Inn, and to a wide-eyed group of marchaned new to the realm of gates. He started his tail.
In Sigil, the Lady of Pain always knows.
"I hear all the lies whispered into all the tepid ears in the dark bedchambers of all the great manors. I see every hand that slips into an open pocket on every bustling street, and I feel the dagger that burns in the belly of every trusting fool whoever followed a glitter girl into a dark alley. No longer can I tell where Sigil begins and I end; no longer can I separate what I perceive from what the city is. I am Sigil.”
Said the Lady of Pain.
In the heart of the cosmos, at the pinnacle of an infinite spike, there stands a ringed city of doors, the nexus around which all of time and creation revolve. Here, the planes and demi-planes intersect, where gods, demons, angels, and devils converge. All the myriad settings and stories of existence spin their trails around this city. Within its ancient walls, let me tell you the tale of Rosa Luminass and how she came to experience much like our Lady.
Long ago, as you may know, before time and space there existed the First World. A realm where the fae told the first story of all. In this realm, there was no past or future, only the eternal NOW. Amidst this timeless existence, a singular thought emerged, a question: "What is Experience?"
This question came into being amid endless tales. To find the answer, a blue rose from the endless garden was plucked. Onto it was bestowed a name, infused with a purpose: Rosa Luminass the name, part from whence it came and part for what it was made for, to illuminate a question. For its purpose that was simple. 'Go an Experience in as many ways as you can' Then it was fragmented, shattered! its essence strewn across time and space, past present, and future. A scattering across time and space. Each splinter each fragment of Rosa Luminass a being in and of itself. Ment to live, experience, and die. and ultimately to return, to share its knowledge with the whole.
Thus, when traveling through the many realms, one might encounter a Rosa Luminass here, then another there. No two are the same they say. These encounters are precious, for each Rosa Luminass lives to feed the great tale of the First World. Should you meet one, take the time to share stories and moments, for in doing so, you contribute to the tapestry of existence.
Now, you might think this tale is the invention of a mad old bard. But you're in luck. Every hundred years, in this very inn, a table is reserved for a special group who have claimed it for as long as the inn has stood and have it booked until it closes. And this is the very night, 100 years has passed form when they last met. So fine people, If you look over there, you will see them. That group of women, as diverse in size, race, and garb, as can be. Yet unmistakably connected by looks and manners. They laugh, drink, and joke together, sisters in spirit and most of all in mind. So, my tail is done, if you find it worthy, perhaps you could spare a coin or two for a bard's effort. After all, the story of Rosa Luminass is one that spans all of existence, a tale worth telling and retelling.
He held up is cap to take donations.
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This Rosa Luminass you here has come to understand her true nature and origin. Her awakening to being part of a greater hole has elevated her to the status of a demigod. For each of her followers is a lesser Rosa, a copy of one of her sisters' minds. There are as many Rosa's as there are realities, each living its own unique life, be it big or small, short or long. This particular Rosa is the keeper of many of her sister's memories, hence the Psionic Demi-God part. Also, I think she may have been the 1st Elan, the 1st one of it type back at the start of it all. She does not trigger the lady of pain becouse she is not a true god, just many who make up a demi one.
GM I would advise breaking my PC and Banning leadership feat or the same, in any templates and CR critters used a races and so one.
PCs familiars, mounts, summoned not permanents only and case by case.
WHY?
Cus this will get mad very soon when all the PCs show up with a leadership-added small army , of say undead, followers, or constructs, or all three. I think I can get my PC to around + others
its nice but shes 100% none flesh, where as the Transmechanical Ascendant prestige class still has some flesh, cyborg more than robot etc.
also Rosa uses drones and with pour m-smith she gets a power in pathfinder mechanics to have them
Yep she was a Cleric of hell, but died in the last fight and her soul was taken by the Godmind of the Axiomites, and placed in a mechanical body, sent to help the fight and back to the prime, thing is Cleric just dod not work now and is way to complcated. So dropping that means I can just make her a Mighty MachineSmith with her own body being her great work. way more simple that 100s of spells and domain stuff + changeling.
Shes just a huge robot with a sword now that dos tech stuff like magic,
Kind of tech warlock, simpler
She hard as hell to kill in a slap down fight, but we need some one like that, Magic is more than covered by others.
Rosa Follows and at Sparel words nods, the constructs are dead, she leves them where they are. With a no magic zone she calls back in all the Construct swam she has around her into her body.
"I must take care her, this place is deadly to me"
I take it we are using transparency rules.
She makes a long rods with a hook and trys to pick up one of her fallen constructs to look at it outside the magic zone.
Well I am back and have time now, as I am no longer running 10 PCs and a 2 GMs in the Lyness game.
Eating all my time and just ended up me sheep herding lesser PCs wile a core group of "old boys" got to do real stuff in the game world. wile said lesser PCs got to post about what they where having for Lunch. 90% of game play = Dull life stuff. All read Drama done by boss lady and chums, never doing that again.
So lots of free time now and happy to get into it once more.
Rosa turns and looks at him, her face showing nothing.
"You misunderstand to your prison break but theres, locked in here by the sin of hubris, Ironic if you take the time to think about it."
Rosa bends down and checks the cores of the broken drones taking them into herself to mend,
"Form what they tell be the last thing was they where hit very fast and at around the same moment"
She looks around,
"My calculations indicate that there is a very high probability we have released whatever was trapped in here. Tapped if what has been said here for over 10,000 years, when it miscalculated the process of ownership of this artifact, By analyzing the warping of this inner space I calculate the being to be 95% to 99% Chaotic evil and of great power if it trapped the Fay here. We may just have unwittingly solicited a prison break"
Rosa looks close at the body,
"If she had contingency, she may all ready be in a new body, one pre prepared, Crones I know uses, young girls for this."
Rosa would have DONE a lot of DMG, over 300+ Chaotic Witch Law Channels and Law sword hits x 6 Crits 16 up Chop chop + Mecha swarm, So ok with auto that
Keep it simple, they Greater invi + add as this sounds silenced, on them, but for a small probe just outside to hear, Rosa remote view each one at a time NOT all at once., Skipping from one to another.
Rosa gos to full defence mode and looks close at a small plant.
Rosa calls back her drones and takes the offered hand.
Once in the clearing she send them put again, looking around.
Sword ever ready, her monotone voice she says
"Is this the aid, we found a pyramid on the plane of Dreams I would think there may be one here as well"
