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Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Tournament bracket:
Round 0:
Michael MacComb (?) vs Avr (Sorcerer) won by MM
ScegfOd (Wizard) vs The Lucky Halfling (Oracle/fighter) won by TLH
ScegfOd vs Avr won by ScegfOd
Round 1:
Michael MacComb vs Jace Nailo (Primal companion hunter) won by MM
The Lucky Halfling vs Vrog Skyreaver (mesmerist) won by TLH
Dwilhelmi (?) vs Terror of Death (Magus) won by Dwilhelmi
ScegfOd vs Saasha (Rogue/slayer/horizon walker) won by ScegfOd
Round 2:
Michael MacComb vs The Lucky Halfling won by MM as TLH timed out on every one of his turns. :(
Dwilhlemi vs ScegfOd won by Dwilhelmi after a long and epic war

Here’s a summary of the first declassified fight and one that’s very fast for me to summarize:
Round 0: ScegfOd vs The Lucky Halfling
TLH wins initiative, has tin imp throw dust of disappearance on him, activates boots of speed, and double moves into position to threaten ScegfOd.
ScegfOd realizes an invisible creature is nearby, orders imp familiar to move and turn invisible, then moves himself, provoking an attack of opportunity.
AoO: TLH procs his flash of insight (cyclopean seer) to critical hit on the AoO, uses disposable weapon (mattock) to automatically confirm the critical hit, and kills ScegfOd with >100 damage.

Rules disputes:

Unfortunately, it’s inevitable that I made errors in adjudicating these rounds. I already see a significant one that likely would not have influenced the final outcome of this tournament but… I still very much dislike that fact… While opponents did generally get the opportunity to ask questions and argue rules with me as to whether or not an attack killed them, I did want to catch these things myself.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Opinions and documentation desired: What happens when a summoned creature fires an arrow into an AMF?


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Hopefully soon! It will depend on how fast I type them up. The finals are moving along pretty quickly.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Now it's finally time for the finals. Will post summaries of the fights that are now declassified soon.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Not yet. XD


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

The semi-finals are happening but taking a while, in case any are curious.


I'm running something very similar via the paizo PM feature on here, which is not the greatest functionality for it. We've completed 6 fights and are almost ready for the championship.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Semi-finals starting today. Michael MacComb waits in the finals, curious to see whom he'll face.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Another fight, another pony killed. Is this what we've become!?!


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.
ScegfOd wrote:
SO MANY SHENANIGANS xD

That is quite true.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

The round 0 fight on the far right side of my bracket just finished and the round 1 fight just started. I doubt anything will run as long as the round 0 fight, which was over 1 dozen rounds.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

There is only one fight which I can reveal so far: That between the Lucky Halfling and Vrog Skyreaver as both have been eliminated. Here's the short version: LH was a cyclopean seer 4/Fighter 6 sylph with boots of speed and a tin imp with dust of disappearing focused on using the nat 20 from flash of insight to crit and automatically confirm with disposable weapon (mattock).

Vrog was a spirit walker focused on dealing damage through magic missile. Unfortunately, his build didn't get to show off much of what it could do.

LH won initiative and had imp throw dust of disappearance on himself. He then activated his boots of speed and took a double move to arrive invisibly adjacent to Vrog. Vrog, making the perception check to know LH was nearby, decided to cast "See Invisibility", which provoked the deadly AoO from LHs x4 crit weapon. That was it.


Yes, sorry.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Ladies and gents: One finalist has cleared his or her half of the bracket and is waiting in the finals. Meanwhile, on the other side of the bracket... ponies... XD


Of course. I was just amused because the Lucky Halfling is not playing a halfling, unlike your previous opponent.


Haha. Much appreciated.


Who said your current opponent was a halfling? Just because his name is "the Lucky Halfling?" Murdering a halfling is what you already did.


Hey Saashaa. Sorry you've had to wait so long. There are some true shenanigans going on in the round 0 fight that determines who fights you. Somebody just murdered a pony.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

So some grapple rulings were required as RAW is not explicit on these subjects:

1. Attack bonuses from flanking, prone, etc apply to grapple checks. There was some dispute as to whether or not this was the case since these rules call out "melee attacks" but my ruling was that these bonuses do apply for a couple of reasons: 1. The dirty fighting feat is worded such that it seems to me flanking bonuses normally apply to combat maneuver checks. 2. It seems logical and likely that this is RAI since two people attacking you makes it harder to defend yourself against one of them grappling you.

2. If creature A is grappling creature B then creature C comes and grapples and pins creature A, creature A's grapple of B does not automatically break. Creature A must maintain the grapple on its turn which it will automatically fail to do if it does not break out of the pin.

Wanted to announce so that people are prepared should these come up in subsequent rounds.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Another one bites the dust. Now starting semi-finals on one side of the bracket. The other side is waiting on a certain round 0 fight that is getting more complex every day... XD


I can let you know right now who's waiting on whom.

Round 2: Lucky Halfling is waiting for the winner of Jace Nailo and Michael MacComb in round 1.

Round 1: Saasha is waiting for the winner of ScegfOd and avr in round 0.

Round 2: Dwilhelmi is waiting for the winner of Saasha vs ______ in round 1.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Also, Luckyhalfling and ScegfOd, I'd be willing to run a re-match for you guys just for fun when this is all over, if that interests you guys. I might do this for some others too but I think you're fight, in particular, would be interesting as a rematch.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

To be clear, 48 hours without a response is the deadline for missing one's turn. I will make small exceptions if I messed up the communication on my end but otherwise we'll need to keep things moving.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Haha. I'm really enjoying your guesses. Lots of good guesses of varying degrees of accuracy.


Chyrone wrote:

Would stealth be of use in Lopul?

If earlier on face 2 face is risky, could hiding be of use instead?
Any means to pump disguise are easier to get at some higher levels, i'd think?

Not trying to be difficult either, just exploring any potential options.

I have no problem with these questions. Exploring options is totally fine. Yes stealth is probably your most viable option at low levels. You might have to spend a fair amount of your time holed up somewhere waiting for your teammates to get things ready then stealth your way to the mission site. Might be frustrating to play at low levels or it might make for cool roleplay.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

No sign of the tenth guy but yes I'm tracking the gory details to share. Not exact numbers, e.g. when an attack definitely hits or misses, but description of what happened.

No tenth guy so you and avr are fighting for the right to come back into the tourney and take on saasha in round 1.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

I know it's hard for some of you to tell but my, my there are some interesting fights going on right now.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Haha. All sorts of possibilities. CR 10 monsters. Lower level. Etc. I'll probably stick with relatively simple builds, however, as it is quite a lot of work to referee builds in all the detail that I would like to. So probably no gestalt or mythic next time.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Yes and I think that from now on I won't let people know whom they're fighting. Otherwise ScegfOd would know something of your build if he met you in a later round, for example.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

If no one responds in a second, there are a couple of ways to fill the 10th slot. My current thought is that the two players who volunteered to start all the way down at round 0 and lost can fight a loser's round to get into the open slot in round 1. Sound fair?


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Sure thing.

Another announcement: For simplification purposes, minions act on the initiative order of their master. That can be broken up however the master wants. Minion move action then master standard followed by minion standard, etc.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

FYI, during the round 0 fights, I gave participants some indiciation as to whether or not they won initiative. I don't think this altered any outcomes but is allows some use of metagame information. From now on, I'll just let you know when it's your turn, not whether or not you won init.


Did I miscount something or am I missing someone? I thought I had 10 complete submissions but am only finding 9.

1. ScegfOd
2. Lucky Halfling
3. Avr
4. Michael MacComb
5. Jace Nailo
6. Dwilhelmi
7. Vrog
8. Saasha
9. Terror of Death


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

It's actually not applicable to any of the other builds and we don't want to give away any info on someone's build. After we get through the fights, I think there will be plenty of discussion/venting/exclamation on how the fights went, which I'll share in gameplay.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

That would be fun to do 2/3 for every round. But I don't want to change the parameters part of the way through, if avoidable. I definitely see myself running this kind of thing again in the future so keep an eye out for Overseer's tourneys.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

Sure thing. I think I will set up alternative modes of communication with people who are interested should paizo go down for extended periods of time, as it very often does.

Announcement: I'm checking the details but I believe the first kill has just been made.


Please read campaign info for lots of information on the tourney. Submission deadline is Feb 16.

I'm not planning to change venue ATM.


I'll be posting the outcomes when they are no longer confidential.


I've only managed to get one fight started so far. Will start the other round 0 fight as soon as real life allows.

Sorry rorek55, recruitment is closed.


Starts in 90 min.


Just a couple last-minute clarifications that I forgot to specify earlier. I thought most of this was relatively apparent before hand but now I'm realizing I should clarify. Too late to change builds, just want to make sure everyone knows how this works:

1. You do NOT start out with line of sight or line of effect to your opponent.
2. Technological gear is allowed. It is paizo and part of the Golarion setting.
3. Carrying capacity will be tracked and will matter.
4. There is normal lighting in the arena but it is totally valid for a combatant to do something to change that fact.

I plan to roll initiative and PM people for the first fight during my lunch break. I rolled for which 4 of the 5 volunteers fight in round zero and who they are fighting. The matchups are

avr vs Michael MacComb
ScegfOd vs "The Lucky Halfling"

Vrog gets a free pass to round 1 along with everyone else. Thanks for volunteering, everyone.


Ok cool. I'll pick four and get them started soon.


Anyone else have a preference between a free pass to the next round and one "extra" fight (it's not extra if you lose)? If all 10 builds are accepted, we only need 4 volunteers to fight in round zero.


All right. Good to see the enthusiasm.

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