
Mephistopholoid |
Gauss wrote:James, I am not asking if incorporeal => ethereal. I am asking if ethereal => incorporeal. The two statements are different.
Blink states that ethereal creatures are incorporeal. Thus it would seem the incorporeal rules apply...or do they?
Ethereal Jaunt does not state that ethereal creatures are incorporeal.
Thus, either an ethereal creature is incorporeal..or it isnt depending on the spell you look at. The paragraph on page 440 regarding The ethereal plane is silent on the matter.
The problem is: From the material plane what spells, abilities, weapons affect ethereal creatures and where are the rules for this?
Respectfully, Gauss
Pretty much nothing but gaze attacks can cross that barrier between planes (And even then... gaze attacks can't affect Material Plane creatures when the source is on the Ethereal). You have to actually travel to the other plane to affect the other target.
In previous editions of D&D, there was a lot of bleedover between incorporeal and ethereal. In fact... in 2nd edition and earlier, there really WASN'T an "incorporeal" state—it was always ethereal.
In Pathfinder, we've attempted to draw a hard line between the two states, but there are places where the old language still bleeds through. Blink is one of those cases.
So, bleed over from old wording is established, and the attempt to reclarify was mentioned, but I still don't see a clarification on whether or not Blink qualifies you as Incorporeal. Does it? If I cast blink on my character, will I gain the Incorporeal subtype for as long as the spell lasts? Or is it such a quick occurrence from the blinking back and forth, that the Incorporeal effect isn't useable?