Black Dragon

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15 posts. Alias of Patrick Snead.




Okay so last time my group and I gamed we found that we each read the rules differently for epic level advancement. Most specifically Base attack bonus and saving throws.

(For an example character I will use level 20 Samurai / 7 dragon shaman, one of my players characters)

I and one other read the rules as such from the Samurai levels the BAB is 20/15/10/5 and from the Dragon Shaman levels the BAB for that is +5 so the total would be 25/20/15/10 plus all relevant bonuses and such.

Whereas three others in the group read the rules as after you pass ECL (or total level 20) you only receive the Epic level attack and save bonuses. +1 at every odd level for attack so from the above example the final BAB would be 24/19/14/9.

I know the final numbers don’t look all that different and but it derailed the game for a good 45 minutes and the conversation got a little heated.

So I was hoping to get some others players and GMs input to this mater.


Hey all,

I have been scouring all my books and supliments trying to find something I think I saw once.

Would someone be able to tell me if I only think I saw it or if it exists.

The Feat that I am looking for would allow a character to use some or all of their CON bonus as part of their AC.

Thanks for your help.