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Sounds like a good opportunity to homebrew a new Leshy Heritage.

Gisher wrote:

The cave troll version is pretty serious.

Having that grinder there in an occupied area with no guardrail or anything is clearly an OSHA violation.

This makes me want to write up a one handed half orc fighter that uses a modified Flick Mace as a prosthetic.

Lemmy wrote:

Arachnofiend wrote:

I see a proper Swashbuckler as being charismatic enough to act as the party face. As such I think the Daring Champion Cavalier edges out the Urban Barb in terms of which is a better chassis for a Swashbuckler.

Well, with a single dip in Swashbuckler (or Daring Champion Cavalier), the Barbarian has a good reason to increase Cha. And because of Superstition, he doesn't need Wis as badly. Pounce also makes them very mobile (like Swashbucklers should be, instead of the "yet-another-variation-of-stand-still-or-suck-syndrome" that they turned out to be.

If you're willing to use an spell-casting class, then Dervish Dancer Bard is better. SBs really aren't very good at buckle-swashing.

I agree, the Swashbuckler sucks, but the Daring Champion is pretty great. The Cockatrice variant in particular oozes flavor and works very well mechanically.

Yeah, the Swashbuckler is only going to be as fun to play if you aren't focusing on being really effective. To be effective you are going to be doing little more than moving into range, then charge, parry as much as you can, full round attack, rinse and repeat.

The Daring Champion on the other hand will have options(I almost consider them as kind of a bard style class with more tanking ability). My only issue with the class is that I can't seem to find an Order that fits just right. (Flames and Dragon work fairly well)

Warblade

good standard action attacks unshackles you from full-round actions
mobility options that get you around the battlefield
defensive tricks beyond just high AC
and when you really need to, you can still wreck face with a full attack

I was thinking specifically Pathfinder material, but the Warblade was in my top 5 favorite classes to play in 3.5. Off Topic: If you haven't checked out Path of War from Dreamscarred Press, you really should. Any Book of the Nine Swords fan will dig it.

I think people will say the Daring Champion is better. He gives up a lot (no charging, etc). He doesn't get Piercing Grace yet since the book isn't out yet.

That is the one I'll be trying out next myself in our group's next campaign. (We're running Rise of the Runelords for the first time, I'm kinda stoked.)

Uh.. Does it count as a Swashbuckler if the character only dips one level in that class and then goes Urban Barbarian all the way?

Because that's probably the best swashbuckling character so far.

That totally counts! As long as you think it's fun to play, that's all that matters.

Hello all. I just wanted to get a community consensus on their favorite class to build everyone's favorite rapier wielding, charismatic, dashing hero: The Swashbuckler! Be it Zorro, D'artagnan, The Count of Monte Cristo, (really any character created by Alexandre Dumas), etc., I've always found these dexterous and charismatic Rogues to be incredibly fun to play.

Now, I'm not talking Optimization. I want to know what class all of you have found the most fun to play while trying to emulate this particular iconic role.

In the past, I would always multiclass with Rogue and Fighter, but with the advent of Archetypes and all the different Class options that Pathfinder has provided us with over (not the least of which being the recently added Swashbuckler class itself).

So, what do you all think? The Swashbuckler? Th Daring Champion Cavalier? Free Hand Fighter? Bard? Something off the wall? I'd really like to hear what you all have to say.