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My only questions so from all the responses is still what is the penalty for reloading when dual wielding them. It states that "You may shoot, but not load, a hand crossbow with each hand, at no penalty" but what is the penalty?


It can be reload with the other hand while still holding the other crossbow. Kinda like holding your keys in one hand and still able to dial a number on your fold you can still hold something and do something with the fingers in you hand. The bridge of you palm and thumb is actually really strong in keeping hold of things. You can hold a 2 lbs item fairly easily that way with only using up your index finger and your thumb leaving you middle, ring and pinking for other actions. This is what having dexterity is all about.


I know that the hand crossbow is a one-handed weapon and I know that it requires a move action to reload this weapon by itself. Taking the rapid reload feat allows you to make this a free action. I have seen a discussion on this stating it still takes 2 hands to reload which makes no sense to me really. Let me go over the mechanics of why this make no sense.

Lets first look at the light crossbow. The light crossbow takes the exact same action as a hand crossbow to reload with or without the rapid reload feat. This weapon is a simple weapon meaning anyone that is proficient with simple weapons are able to use it, which I believe every starting class can use a light crossbow. This weapon does a 1d8 damage with a range of 80 ft. and only costs the player 35 gold. This weapon can be held in one hand with a -2 penalty on attack roll but still requires to hands to reload.

The hand crossbow is a exotic weapon that requires the player to take a feat to even use the weapon unless it comes as a class proficiency i.e. Rogue. Which means just to use the weapon you have to take a feat away from most classes. Weapon is only doing 1d4 damage with a range of only 30 ft. The cost of a standard hand crossbow is 100 gp and still require 2 hands to reload or suffer penalties (Which the book does not state what those penalties are "You may shoot, but not load, a hand crossbow with each hand, at no penalty" pg 145 crb).

The hand crossbow damage is 2 die size smaller then the light crossbow, cost is about x3 as much and requires the player to take a feat to use it. The only advantage the this has over the light hand crossbow is that it can be used as a 1h weapon with out any penalties. If a wielder is not able to dual wield with this weapon and reload it, what is the point of this weapon? A hand crossbow is basically have a very bad light crossbow.

In the core rule book it states that the hand crossbow can be reloaded by hand unlike the light crossbow which is a lever. So please tell me why a hand crossbow is even a option if not to be dual wield with another weapon like a melee weapon or another hand crossbow. What makes it a good option to use at all. If their isn't one the I suggest making the weapon a simple weapon and reduce the cost of the item. There is no reason crappier version of a weapon cost so much to use unless it has a reason for being that expensive.

If someone can enlighten me on this reason I would really appreciate it.


I am interested in playing. Never played a PFS and been really wanting to try it out. I will look over the Field guide and generate a sample character concept


I am interested in this campaign. I have played role playing games for while but am currently unable to find a group in my area that is able to stick together. I have never played a pbp before and interested to learn. This is a character that has been rolling around in my head for sometime. I really think he would be a great character to play in a role playing aspect.

I will make an actual character when I can.

Background:
Ortack is the youngest 15 other siblings, feeling he needs prove himself to his family he no long a baby. He has always despise being treated as the baby of the family and protected by his older siblings. He left his home at a young age to venture out and vowed to not to return until he has proven his worth in world. Believing this journey will bring him honor and respect amongst his kin. With a strong connection to the great dwarven god of Torag, he has dedicated his journey to honor him. He is sensitive about his size and will jump into combat to defend anyone being bullied by a larger person/beast/monster. He is suspicious and brash toward any being that is larger then he is, but that will quickly dissolve over a cold ale.

He carries a dwarven waraxe as his traveling companion which he has named “Linda”. He has a habit of whisper a quick prayer to his axe in dwarven right before combat.