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Looking at my copy of the pocket CRB (which matches the sixth hardcover printing), it says 'As long as he is within 10 feet of an area of dim light, an assassin can hide himself from view in the open without having anything to actually hide behind. He cannot, however, hide in his own shadow.'. Shadowdancer has the same wording (only with female pronouns).

I'd guess that d20pfsrd and AoN just didn't get updated. There's a lot of PF to keep track of. Maybe send them an email.

That still doesn’t make sense. Shadows are not dim light as per the condition, otherwise everything in a forest everyone would have concealment. You could also hide in the shadows enemies cast on you RAW if shadows are dim light. The question we have it weather shadows themselves are a special version of dim light this ability uses, or if you need specifically dim light and the shadows line is just left over flavor. How could you try to hide in your own shadow and be prevented from doing so if you need dim light?

We are running a Westmarshes Campaign (a "council" of DMs, there are three of us) and Hide in Plain Sight has become a point of contention as it always does. We've done a lot of research, and we are all a bit of the rules layer type. We found this post: https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2kkoe&page=1?Why-is-the-Assassin-better-at -Hide-in-Plain#2

This should mean that someone can hide in the shadows of their enemies, or the shadows of chairs, grass, cracks, the rain and everything between. Effectively they can hide anywhere; however a counter argument has been put up that if shadow=dim light, and dim light is a specific lighting setting in the game, do they need to be within 10ft of dim lighting (as the rules here (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/exploration-movement#TOC-Vision-and -Light) or are shadows for this ability different?

TL;DR Can I hide anywhere there is a literally shadow of any type, or do I need to be within 10ft of a square of dim light? Dim Light=Shadow doesn't seem to clarify which is needed.

Thank you for any responses, and please cite sources me have not found to support what you say. Any official response is also much appreciated.

Thanks again.