
Juddimal |
For the general rule of a high jump i would say yes. Then the specific rule of powerful leap changes it
I 100% agree with what you are saying, but perhaps not the vocabulary. I don't think we should say that it sets the "Maximum Distance Travelled" if we are then going to allow other things to increase the distance. But we both agree that we have a general rule that sets a value and a specific rule that modifies the value.
An action might allow you to use a simpler action—usually one of the Basic Actions—in a different circumstance or with different effects.
Lava Leap allows me to use the leap action, changing the distance (from 10 or 15) to my speed. This is exactly like the subordinate action example of Stride. We both agree that this is a subordinate action. This becomes the general rule and sets my leap speed to my land speed.
This subordinate action still has its normal traits and effects,
I am making a leap, as the subordinate action, and that should follow all of the rules of leap. It is a move action and would provoke attacks of opportunity, would benefit from Guarded Movement, etc.
Because normally outside the move 15 can leap 10, move 30 can leap 15, and you can't leap further than you speed
There is no restriction in the Leap action that defines you can't go farther than your speed. That is, however, mentioned in the success conditions of the Long Jump action that require you to make skill checks.
I still contend that I am making a leap action, as part of the subordinate action rules, and subordinate actions have all of their normal effects. I leap, feats that effect leap are part of it's normal effects. So we have a general rule of move 45 in lava leap and it is modified by the specific rules of +5 when you leap. This follows exactly from your high jump example in the previous post that specific feats should be able to modify the general rule.
If something said increase distance traveled with Leap by x amount "including Lava Leap", that's a differnt story.
It doesn't have to specify because by the subordinate action rules I am taking the leap action and I follow all of the normal rules and effects for leaping.