
JourneyRei |

Hi! My group and I were discussing summoner and eidolon mechanics, not disrupting any game being played, and seem to have hit a couple snags. Call it confirmation bias but no matter what I say, they seem convinced that the book claims the only thing in the summoner + eidolon union that actually gets actions is the summoner. Which may then be used by either the summoner or eidolon.
They seem to strongly believe that if the summoner ever has a condition rendering it unable to act, (the meld into eidolon feat excluded, as a specific exception) that means the summoner does not regain actions nor reactions at the start of their turn therefore the eidolon cannot use the summoner's actions. I've not been able to find anywhere a rule stating that an eidolon gets it's own actions or anything to properly back up my arguement, because they want to treat every instance of "you" and "your" as being written for the summoner only. They disregard the first sentence of the paragraph discussing what to do when one of the pair is restricted and the other is not, saying the example given says if only the eidolon is petrified because "it isn't the source of the union's actions anyway, the summoner is".
They also argue that petrified effectively kills the character as they are referred to as haven been alive, which a statue is not, and a dead character has no life force to maintain any link to a manifested eidolon so it should unmanifest. I said their mind and body are stated to be in stasis, and they are therefore not dead, and they turned it back around and said all the more reason to prove why, if one of the union being slowed or stunned removes actions from the other, that one of them being petrified should make it so both of them become petrified or whoever isn't permanently cannot regain actions.
Where does it actually state (besides the exception in the meld into eidolon feat) an eidolon can be going around doing things while their summoner cannot act (asleep, petrified, etc)? Where does it state that an eidolon gets it's own actions and may spend them as it wants, if the summoner isn't able to regain actions?
Sorry to ask in circles like this but it's frustrating and I'm flabbergasted.