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GRUMASH HAVE MAKE NEW RULE. ALL ORC GET TO IGNORE THE -2 PENALTY TO ONE THINKY ABILITY SCORE. THIS MEANS THEY ONLY GET -2 PENALTIES TO TWO THINKY ABILITY SCORES, NOT ALL THREE. THIS IS TO MAKE ORC CASTYS PLAYABLE.

No Martial Artist Monk?

ORCS NOT BE HAVING MONKISH PATIENCE.

The all caps typing is for recruitment purposes only. I will not be GMing in all caps.

PUNY HUMANS! THEY THINK THEY CAN MAKE ORCS LEAVE HOMELAND AND GO LIVE IN RESERVATIONS! ORCS NO WANT LIVE IN RESERVATIONS! WE NO GO! WE FIGHT! KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL! THEN THEY NO MESS WITH ORCS NO MORE, BECAUSE THEN THEY DEAD!

DO BE ASKING GRUMASH QUESTIONS IF THEY COME TO MIND.

Icyshadow wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

I'm somewhat incapable of making reasonable posts in threads with hideous style errors in the title is all.

Also... orcs eat poop.

...really? This is the kind of style you choose for a legitimate roleplay concern players like me and Mikaze have? Making fun of the thread title?

If this thread's serious... I obviously didn't read it well enough. The tone of the first post certainly doesn't set it up to be serious.

If you're looking for a more serious response from me, then that is this:

On Golarion, an orc's role is to serve as a monster. They're NOT intended to be good guys OR player character races—that role is filled by the half-orc. If orcs are meant to be PC races or good guys, we would have ditched the half-orc entirely and just presented the orc as a good guy. There are already PLENTY of other game options out there for orcs as not-always-evil bad guys, ranging from Shadowrun to Eberron to the Elder Scrolls to, most importantly, World of Warcraft. In fact, it seems to me that MOST settings present orcs more as misunderstood savages than as outright bad guys... which is their traditional role... which is how I prefer them to behave in Golarion.

So, I'm not racist against orcs at all. If anything, I'm advocating a return to the creature's roots as bad guys—same as I did with drow in Second Darkness.

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GRUMASH SHALL BOIL YOUR BONES!

The word "orcish" doesn't exist in Pathfinder. The adjective form of "orc" is merely "orc."

So, you'd have an orc longsword, an orc bloodline, or problems with orc racism... but never an orcish longsword, an orcish bloodline, or problems with orcish racism. This isn't anti-orc propaganda, of course, but a style we chose for almost ALL of our races. "Ish" never gets added to any race in Pathfinder.

BLASPHEMY!

And to be clear...

I actually really like orcs a lot. AS BAD GUYS.

Half-orc is the way to go, in my opinion, if you want a good guy orc.

Half orcs are puny.

Also... orcs eat poop.

So do dinosaurs.

I think it went to a serious discussion half-way on the first page. And I still wouldn't treat this thing as a joke. Hell, my players even have that meta-game mentality of monsters being Exp fodder, but my Kingmaker campaign somehow had an improvised Orc raid at one part, and the leader was Chaotic Neutral. He was pretty close to being Evil, but my players didn't have a problem, actually ROLE-PLAYED THE ENCOUNTER, and everyone was happy with it. I still find if baffling that you just have to somehow justify killing legions of kobold/goblin/orc/whatever men, women and children with a mere "evil" label.

The lady speaks sense.

Morally confused Paladin wrote:

Grumash Boneboiler wrote:

dungeonmaster heathy wrote:

I wonder how many standard, run of the mill 1 h.d. orcs a 14th level party could mow through?...

I wonder how many standard, run of the mill 1 h.d. humans I can mow through? Oh, wait. That's make me evil.

"Yes it does" smites the Orc

Now YOU'RE evil.

Oh, wait; no you're not.

That is precisely my point.

Grumash Boneboiler wrote:

dungeonmaster heathy wrote:

I wonder how many standard, run of the mill 1 h.d. orcs a 14th level party could mow through?...

I wonder how many standard, run of the mill 1 h.d. humans I can mow through? Oh, wait. That's make me evil.

"Yes it does" smites the Orc

The irony is amazing.

"Why is the xp talking?" Stabs the orc

Another fine example of the "Lawful Good" Paladin. Apparently, genocide is all right if they're more primitive than you are.

I wonder how many standard, run of the mill 1 h.d. orcs a 14th level party could mow through?...

I wonder how many standard, run of the mill 1 h.d. humans I can mow through? Oh, wait. That's make me evil. Funny how that works, is it not?

Smart orcs, like Santa Claus and the Krampus, don't exist.

This is particularly the type of refuse I speak out against.

Santa Claus, The Krampus, a stupid orc, and a smart orc are playing bap-a-goblin. Who wins?

Smart Orc, every time.

Grumash Boneboiler wrote:

The dastardly racist James Jacobs has damned our race as nothing more than monstrous pillagers and raiders! It is clear that all we are to him is walking experience points, to serve the genocidal urges of those "good aligned" player characters! Why do we tolerate this, my friends? Why do we stand by as our whole race is treated as nothing more than cheap adventurer bait? I say we rise up! Rise up, and show James Jacobs what our people can do! Rise up, and show those murderous bands of adventurers that it is most definitely NOT okay to kill "savages" for the loot! Rise up, and take our rightful place in this world!

Who's with me?

I'm not with you, 'cause orcs stink.

But I do think it's odd that only 'good' races like gnomes and dwarves have 'race hatred' as a racial trait.

Orcs should have race hatred - dwarves and humans, and hobgoblins should have race hatred - elves, and bugbears should have race hatred - everyone.

And bite attacks for everyone! What's the point of all them sharp pointy teeth on a kobold, goblinoid, orc, gnoll or (possibly) ogre, if they don't get to bite people with 'em? Chew 'em up, boys! Meat's back on the menu!

I don't stink any worse than Jackal-people.

Yes. My bite is vicious.

Grumash Boneboiler wrote:

Mikaze wrote:

Normally I jump in, but what's the point. It's never going to get any better.

It's damn frustrating.

Take heart, friend! Only through struggle shall we be victorious!

I've been trying for years and have taken abuse for it on the side here and elsewhere. Haven't gotten anywhere.

Have you tried boiling the bones of your opponents?

Do you hate Orcs?

eating orcs isn't cannibalism.

Would you say the same if it were me eating a human? I think not.

Normally I jump in, but what's the point. It's never going to get any better.

It's damn frustrating.

Take heart, friend! Only through struggle shall we be victorious!

Down, you vile, vile beast!

Here, my friends, we see the unjustifiable violence inherent in the system! I have done nothing but preach freedom, and he seeks to slay me like a dog!

I play an Orc Witch with the Cauldron hex. That way, I can qualify for Cook People at 10th level, and bit a literal Boneboiler!

The dastardly racist James Jacobs has damned our race as nothing more than monstrous pillagers and raiders! It is clear that all we are to him is walking experience points, to serve the genocidal urges of those "good aligned" player characters! Why do we tolerate this, my friends? Why do we stand by as our whole race is treated as nothing more than cheap adventurer bait? I say we rise up! Rise up, and show James Jacobs what our people can do! Rise up, and show those murderous bands of adventurers that it is most definitely NOT okay to kill "savages" for the loot! Rise up, and take our rightful place in this world!

Who's with me?