Please don't kill me wrote: There is a prestige class called the Dawnflower Dissident that will do this for you. The only problem is that the book this is in will be released on the 16th of this month so unless you are subscriber you have to wait to see if that is what you where looking to do. Basically the class lets you make some opposed skill checks in order to hide the fact that you are casting a spell. Really interesting!! What book is it? VRMH wrote: You're now forcing two checks on the audience to notice you're casting spells. If you fail your Perform check, your Sleight of Hands may still save the day. Cool!! PRD in relation to Sandman Bard wrote: Dramatic Subtext: [...] The bard must use this performance for at least 2 rounds before casting a spell; otherwise he is automatically detected and the performance ends. What does it mean? I dont' understand Bigger Club wrote: Is this so that you can cast a spell so nobody knows who cast the spell or that nobody knows that a spell was cast in the first place? The first. The second is more difficoult!! Bigger Club wrote:
Interesting...now I'm also thinking about Spectral hand!
Thank you for the hints!
Alexandrina wrote: Depends on what happens and the context I suppose. Most real life pick pockets work exactly this way. Of course if in a fight you touch someone in the face and their face starts to melt thats going to be hard to hide. But a friendly pat on the back and suddenly that person can't hit very well? Might just be bad luck Obviously right, but the mechanic? A sleight of hand check? And how can you hide the light that shine from your hand? Maybe a stealth check? Winterwalker wrote: spells that have F and M means it has a focus or material components involved, a F is very hard to hide as that's usually a divine focus and you "present" that as part of casting the spell. As for the material components, you could take the feat called Eschew Materials and any component 1gp or less in value is not needed. I have a doubt. First, suppose a spell with F/FD components. I want to cast it. Do I need...1)To pick up in my hand F/FD compontents and clearly show them to all OR 2)It's sufficient to have F/FD components in a pocket-bag or similar? Second, the same question for M components? If possible, for this reply, give me a PRD reference: it's easier for me.
First, thank you very much! All these replies make me very happy, they have exceeded my best expectations!!
0. Perfect for Bards, they can use Spellsong feat. 1. You cast spells on the sly when you cast spells without components.
2. Some spells are impossible to cast on the sly. For example: "ray of frost", "shout", "chill touch (even if you hold the charge, it'a a bit evident!) ", "magic circle against", "binding" - In these situations DM reign XD. 3. Ok for other situations like concealment. If you want the situation in my precedent point 2, I think... 4. If person X is doing something like casting a spell*, you have to cast on the sly and - if you have success - simply make a bluff. In relation to X's features you can gain or not bonus/malus (is X a spellcaster? What is X doing?...etc.). If spellcasters identify the spell they can recognize if the cast was strange (e.g. X was still but cast a spell that usually require S components or maybe X was in movement but the spell dont' require S components; the same for something strange about M or F components) but nothing more (maybe X use Still Spell). Spells that aren't "castable" on the sly can't be use in this way. *(This is what people that are deceive believe to see in X)
5. If X is doing something like a normal conversation you can't try. About casting time... 6. You can cast on the sly only spells with a casting time less or equal to a full-round. More than a full-round require a bigger concentration and people aren't stupid. windquake wrote:
Yes, I like it! In my opinion, however, it can't be add to similar feats like Secret Signs (the combination is too powerfoul!) Ok, I have finish. Sorry for the lenght (and the english)!
Hi everybod! Just a quick warning: I'm Italian, I'm not able in english and this is my first message in the forum. I tryed to find a place where can I shortly present myself, like other forums, but I didn't find anything.
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