Curse of the Crimson Throne for PF2e by DM Doctor Evil

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When you level up, your numerator and denominator should both increase. For some reason, I had that someone had cast a Heal spell that moved everyone up, but perhaps I misallocated that.

Let's just assume that you are successful with treating wounds on all the folks with you (not Sable) including yourself.


Female Human Cleric (Cloistered) - 2 (HP 26/26) (Hero Point Spent) (Hero P gained)
DM DoctorEvil wrote:


Let's just assume that you are successful with treating wounds on all the folks with you (not Sable) including yourself.

Bless you for that :)


Female Human Bard (Maestro) 2

I think Sable was down three, and she'd get two back for the overnight rest (con modifier times level), so she'd be down one, which is no big deal. I'm all for moving to the next day.

Radiant Oath

NG female (she/her) Whisper Elf Champion 1 HP 32/32 | AC 18 | F +9 R +4 W +7 | Perc +5 | Glaive +8 1d8 +3 S | Spell Atk +6 DC 14 Spd 30 | Focus 0/1 | Active Conditions: None | Hero Points: 2

If we assume average dice on a treat wounds on Talindra, that's 2d8, averaging out to 10 (technically the average is 4.5, but you can't roll that, so it's rounded up to 5). Then, 2 * CON is 6. That brings me up to 29, which I'm happy with.


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@DM DoctorEvil: What is the requirement for determining if the book written in Varisian nonsense terms is worth anything? If it's just the language and time, Perivolt is willing to work on it a bit until sleep is required.


You can try a to Decipher Writing if trained in Society. Failure means you get -2 on future checks. I will say 4 hours of working on it for each check you make.

It is a secret check, so provide your modifier if you wish to try.


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Perivolt has a base +8 in Society. If it's really 4 hours per check, I imagine he'll only get in 1 tonight before hitting the sack.


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@DM DoctorEvil: Is there any reason to think Perivolt wouldn't know the name of Groetus? Despite not being "major" god, I feel like the alleged god of the end times who hangs over Pharasma's Boneyard (a goddess I feel everyone would know about) would be a clear no-check-needed territory for "Why yes, I've heard of Groetus." Groetus feels very much like a boogeyman/monster-under-the-bed/Krampus style bedtime story. If someone needed actual religious or historical data, I'd assume a check is needed, but it's safe to say we should all know that Groetus exists, yes?


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Also:

Sable Rose wrote:
He told me had seen me in a dream! That's something I hear often, so it wasn't shocking."

Pure gold right there.


Female Human Bard (Maestro) 2
Perivolt Ornelos wrote:

Also:

Sable Rose wrote:
He told me had seen me in a dream! That's something I hear often, so it wasn't shocking."
Pure gold right there.

Thank you.

Radiant Oath

NG female (she/her) Whisper Elf Champion 1 HP 32/32 | AC 18 | F +9 R +4 W +7 | Perc +5 | Glaive +8 1d8 +3 S | Spell Atk +6 DC 14 Spd 30 | Focus 0/1 | Active Conditions: None | Hero Points: 2

Hey folks, I have a big exam for school coming up that I'm going to be working on prepping for over the next two days, and that's why I've been quiet the past few days as well. The exam itself is on Friday, and then I'll be able to relax. I'll get something up to respond to Sable later this morning. Not sure how much I'll be able to post otherwise.


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Not a critique, but since responding to multiple posts in each post seems to have become more common lately, may I recommend spoilers to help separate them?

Earlier, before Sable's arrival:
Perivolt yawned and blinked before taking stock of his surroundings. A moment of panic came over him for a few seconds before he recalled why he was lying with his brother Graykos in a rundown house with folks who had only been friends for less than 24 hours.

After Sable's arrival:
Perivolt munched on the muffin while he listened to Sable describe how often other men and women dreamt of her.

Talindra complimenting Billi:
"Indeed, our dwarven friend is talented. Look at this toy he made Graykos."


Talindra Ravenheart wrote:
Hey folks, I have a big exam for school coming up that I'm going to be working on prepping for over the next two days, and that's why I've been quiet the past few days as well. The exam itself is on Friday, and then I'll be able to relax. I'll get something up to respond to Sable later this morning. Not sure how much I'll be able to post otherwise.

Good luck!


Perivolt Ornelos wrote:

Not a critique, but since responding to multiple posts in each post seems to have become more common lately, may I recommend spoilers to help separate them?

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Appreciate the suggestion, as posts get complicated. Even headers works instead of spoilers depending. The fun of asynchronous communication is never-ending.


Perivolt Ornelos wrote:
@DM DoctorEvil: Is there any reason to think Perivolt wouldn't know the name of Groetus? Despite not being "major" god, I feel like the alleged god of the end times who hangs over Pharasma's Boneyard (a goddess I feel everyone would know about) would be a clear no-check-needed territory for "Why yes, I've heard of Groetus." Groetus feels very much like a boogeyman/monster-under-the-bed/Krampus style bedtime story. If someone needed actual religious or historical data, I'd assume a check is needed, but it's safe to say we should all know that Groetus exists, yes?

I think its fair to say everyone has heard of Pharasma; Groteus is a bit more select and less widely known. Even then having heard about something, and knowing lots of details can be a vast difference. Or knowing true things vs folklore.

I think a role is appropriate if you want deep knowledge. Not needed if you want to say "Yeah, I have heard of that."


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DM DoctorEvil wrote:
Perivolt Ornelos wrote:
@DM DoctorEvil: Is there any reason to think Perivolt wouldn't know the name of Groetus? Despite not being "major" god, I feel like the alleged god of the end times who hangs over Pharasma's Boneyard (a goddess I feel everyone would know about) would be a clear no-check-needed territory for "Why yes, I've heard of Groetus." Groetus feels very much like a boogeyman/monster-under-the-bed/Krampus style bedtime story. If someone needed actual religious or historical data, I'd assume a check is needed, but it's safe to say we should all know that Groetus exists, yes?

I think its fair to say everyone has heard of Pharasma; Groteus is a bit more select and less widely known. Even then having heard about something, and knowing lots of details can be a vast difference. Or knowing true things vs folklore.

I think a role is appropriate if you want deep knowledge. Not needed if you want to say "Yeah, I have heard of that."

Precisely how I was thinking. Anyone who's been to Pharasma's church sermons probably knows like most Christians know Jesus had 12 disciples, but do they know much about the ones not named Peter? Some of the devout or more recently studious may be able to give you all of their names, but their history would probably be reserved for Bible scholars or clergy.

Though I would imagine Groetus to be much more mythological in Golarion, and even the knowledge people think they have is probably wildly off-base or eerily precise but without foundation. I expect most people's association would be like Earth stories of Krampus or actual Slavic tradition of Baba Yaga and her Hut. I feel like many people have probably heard the names and maybe a story or description here and there, but very little real details.


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@DM DoctorEvil: Would it be alright if I shared what the Guide to Korvosa indicates about the Queen? I don't want to assume too much if you have designs to change certain aspects of how she's presented.


Perivolt can share in exposition, or others can roll their own Lore/Recall knowledge Society. Or as I said in the thread, you can Gather Information from people across the city -- part of the fun of urban adventuring.


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Perivolt’s priority is getting his brother to safety. Now that comes with conditions.

  • If Sable is saying the streets are clear enough to go now, that would be his next move. I’m happy to have my own Sable Walk and meet up with team at the merchant plaza later on.
  • If there’s still too much heat heading into the noble district, then Perivolt keeps Graykos close and heads off with the group.

    So my move just depends on city conditions. I figure the quicker I can RP Graykos out of the scene the cleaner Perivolt’s decisions will be going forward.


  • Female Human Bard (Maestro) 2

    Sable would also agree that getting Graykos to safety should be priority one and would go with Perivolt, if he wanted, to do that. She's not against shopping if stores are open, but she also wouldn't want to risk Graykos getting hurt in the urban unrest.

    Sable, Perivolt, and Lenrelle should all look at the scroll from the fishery, before we go out, and see if any of them can make out what it is, so we can give it to whoever can use it.


    Female Human Cleric (Cloistered) - 2 (HP 26/26) (Hero Point Spent) (Hero P gained)

    Apologies. Lenrelle should have remembered Graykos was still with them but I had a brainfart and the character looked a bit ditzy as a result.


    Sorry guys, I am out of town starting tomorrow AM through Monday late. I will likely be unable to post during that time, but will be back in the chair Monday late.

    Thanks again for your patience!

    Radiant Oath

    NG female (she/her) Whisper Elf Champion 1 HP 32/32 | AC 18 | F +9 R +4 W +7 | Perc +5 | Glaive +8 1d8 +3 S | Spell Atk +6 DC 14 Spd 30 | Focus 0/1 | Active Conditions: None | Hero Points: 2

    Stress and exams do not go well together, which is not so great because exams cause stress. Spoons are finally mostly out of the dishwasher, though :)


    Hopefully you made it through in one piece. I am back and will get to updating. Good news for you, my other trip this month is likely off, so I should be here in regular cadence for a bit.


    Dwarf Fighter 2 HP 36/36 | Harrow 0/1 | AC 20 (22 with shield raised) | F +9 R +6 W +6 | Perc +8 | Axe +10 1d8 +4 S | Spd 20 | Active Conditions: None Exploration: Search 7gp owed Sable

    Billi and Sable haven't done the visit to the theives guild, so no cat yet I assume.

    Radiant Oath

    NG female (she/her) Whisper Elf Champion 1 HP 32/32 | AC 18 | F +9 R +4 W +7 | Perc +5 | Glaive +8 1d8 +3 S | Spell Atk +6 DC 14 Spd 30 | Focus 0/1 | Active Conditions: None | Hero Points: 2

    Eh, worst case I repeat the module which is okay. From the earlier part of the narration in the gameplay post, it sounds like we're heading west? Talindra will be in front despite not knowing where she's going, but I'm not sure which direction we're walking, so I'm not sure where that would be.


    Billi Hardstone wrote:
    Billi and Sable haven't done the visit to the theives guild, so no cat yet I assume.

    I kind of forgot, so we can work it as we go, but no not yet. It may not come from the Thieves' guild either, so keep your eyes open.


    Looking at the map of Korvosa, you are along the eastern edge at Zellara's near the Jeggare River. The Ornelas estate is in the Heights district between the Castle and the Acadamae, really not far at all from the Gilded Orrery, the magic shop that Perivolt knows about.

    The trip is west by northwest, and slightly uphill.


    Dwarf Fighter 2 HP 36/36 | Harrow 0/1 | AC 20 (22 with shield raised) | F +9 R +6 W +6 | Perc +8 | Axe +10 1d8 +4 S | Spd 20 | Active Conditions: None Exploration: Search 7gp owed Sable

    Billi looks at these flyers and speaks. "Do you speak common?"
    Lore Korvosa +4 then Religion +5


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    Somehow I managed to build a long-time resident of Korvosa without Lore: Korvosa...

    If these are what I suspect, presumably Perivolt would probably have seen many during his time at the Acadamae if that can help with any roll not Lore: Korvosa Perivolt might be able to make. He can roll +8 on Arcana or Occultism if that helps.


    Female Human Bard (Maestro) 2

    Sable doesn't have it either.


    Billi Hardstone wrote:

    Billi looks at these flyers and speaks. "Do you speak common?"

    Lore Korvosa +4 then Religion +5

    I assume you meant this in the Game play tab. I will respond (or not) there.


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    DM DoctorEvil wrote:
    Sable Rose wrote:
    While Sable can use the wand of Magic Missile, I think Perivolt should have that item.
    They just need to agree to take it, and I'll move it their pile

    I'm not opposed, naturally, but as some things may be more weak to magic than others diversifying how many of the team can be effective during any given conflict may be a better strategy.

    Radiant Oath

    NG female (she/her) Whisper Elf Champion 1 HP 32/32 | AC 18 | F +9 R +4 W +7 | Perc +5 | Glaive +8 1d8 +3 S | Spell Atk +6 DC 14 Spd 30 | Focus 0/1 | Active Conditions: None | Hero Points: 2

    I made that gameplay post, and moved my token up one and left two, under the assumption that I'm still free to act, since there hasn't yet been a call for initiative. Happy to revise if needed!


    I had an initiative/first round post that got interrupted by dinner etc, but its fine for now. The combat rounds have now started.


    Hey question:

    I ran across this explanation of the incapacitation trait on the Charm spell and the explanation leads me to believe that Talindra's failed save, would actually become a success. She is level 2, and Charm is a level 1 spell.

    Anyone have a different take on that? It cuts both ways, if you choose to use Charm (or other incapacitation effect, like Color Spray) on foes later on.


    Female Human Bard (Maestro) 2

    Yes, that is correct if they are using level 1 charms, Talindra is twice level 1, and if it has incap, her save would go up one degree. Incap tends to apply more to bosses vs PC spells, but in this case it does benefit the group.


    Female Human Cleric (Cloistered) - 2 (HP 26/26) (Hero Point Spent) (Hero P gained)

    Mixed feelings as Color spray is really helping a barbarian in another game i'm in ;) But you and Sable player have a better grasp of the rules than I do and that interpretation looks legit to me too


    Dwarf Fighter 2 HP 36/36 | Harrow 0/1 | AC 20 (22 with shield raised) | F +9 R +6 W +6 | Perc +8 | Axe +10 1d8 +4 S | Spd 20 | Active Conditions: None Exploration: Search 7gp owed Sable

    Wow, Foundry VTT kept modifying this automatically in one of our games the saves of a boss versus a color spray.

    We thought this was a bug, but it was truly implementing the incapacitation adjustment. (Sable is correct, Foundry VTT is amazing)

    I have learned that sleep in PF2E is not as amazing, now color spray is losing some luster too :-)

    Radiant Oath

    NG female (she/her) Whisper Elf Champion 1 HP 32/32 | AC 18 | F +9 R +4 W +7 | Perc +5 | Glaive +8 1d8 +3 S | Spell Atk +6 DC 14 Spd 30 | Focus 0/1 | Active Conditions: None | Hero Points: 2

    If we're ruling that my original failure was a success, then I don't need to spend the hero point and reroll, correct?


    Dwarf Fighter 2 HP 36/36 | Harrow 0/1 | AC 20 (22 with shield raised) | F +9 R +6 W +6 | Perc +8 | Axe +10 1d8 +4 S | Spd 20 | Active Conditions: None Exploration: Search 7gp owed Sable

    More than means > not > or = according to Reddit. So a level 3 paralyze works on CR 6 or less without reduction. Color spray on foundry was being reduced on cr3 orc.


    Talindra Ravenheart wrote:
    If we're ruling that my original failure was a success, then I don't need to spend the hero point and reroll, correct?

    Yes, that's the point of the discussion. And I think we have unanimous agreement. You'll succeed vs fail vs the Charm, elf or not.

    Sorry, I have in person PF2 tonight, so no real updates, but will be tomorrow.


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    Sorry for the silence. I’m aiming to update all my games tomorrow morning, later this morning rather.


    22/22 HP | 1/1 FP

    I love that the focus spell only costs one action. The double spell turns always look so impressive.

    Radiant Oath

    NG female (she/her) Whisper Elf Champion 1 HP 32/32 | AC 18 | F +9 R +4 W +7 | Perc +5 | Glaive +8 1d8 +3 S | Spell Atk +6 DC 14 Spd 30 | Focus 0/1 | Active Conditions: None | Hero Points: 2

    Having "grown up" with 3.5/PF1, casting two spells in a turn is a Big Deal™ to me. You're right, they are impressive!


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    I don't think it does, but if by some miracle Phase Bolt ends up being a critical strike I think one of the imps will go *poof* instantly. If nothing else, it should be hurt pretty bad.


    Female Human Bard (Maestro) 2

    Did you add the +1 hit and damage from Inspire Courage? Nothing in the ability says it only applies to physical attacks.


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    I did not. I wasn't paying attention! I'm just so used to the PF1 version where the damage bonus only applies to weapon damage.


    Female Human Bard (Maestro) 2

    Me too. I go back and check the entry all the time to remind myself what it helps with.


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    While it may mechanically be within the rules, it just feels like Glimpse of Redemption should auto-fail on devils. :P

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