[SF Adventure] To Defy the Dragon

Game Master cmlobue

Yargnod does almost as much damage with Justifier too!

Ditto on shield boosting. But Shadow Knight, and one of you only gain back 1 PP per round. So shield boosting and augmenting attacks in the same round will drain power points faster than they're recharged. I remember Time Knight didn't have that problem.

There's definitely a power use strategy that varies slightly from mech to mech.

Check out your frame's special power. Shadow Knight's is stealth, but it takes a full round to implement and burns PPs fast. Didn't seem optimal to employ once we started fighting, but as an ambush device, it could be good.

Each of your frames has its own unique power determined by the material it's built from.

Palisade Knight only gets 1 PP per round, too.

And it's frame ability didn't seem very useful in that combat, but should be valuable against Ayleth. It disrupts magic users.

DG, thanks for organizing the repair effort!

So we have left 930 Credits, 5 tactical disposal blades, 3 sets of pinion skyfire armor, 2 sets of freebooter armor iii, a hellhound-class flamethrower with 2 high-capacity petrol tanks, and a medium machine gun with 420 heavy rounds

Someone should probably update the Loot sheet

Claim what you need, and take your remaining 3,333.375 credits then reset the loot sheet and add the new items.

Mordack, is that in addition to the above, or an adjustment of it?

So we have left 930 Credits, 5 tactical disposal blades, 3 sets of pinion skyfire armor, 2 sets of freebooter armor iii, a hellhound-class flamethrower with 2 high-capacity petrol tanks, and a medium machine gun with 420 heavy rounds

Nobody has added these items or the 930 credits to the Loot sheet yet. 3333.375 credits per person is before adding these items. So if the new total comes out to say 4,000 per person and you already claimed 3333.375 credits or added them to your inventory, you would add an additional 666.625 credits to your inventory if that makes sense. Of course Yarnod adds 3,300.375 credits to his inventory, plus a 40 battery if he hasn't already cause we subtracted it from an item he grabbed

5 Tactical disposal blades are sell value of 30 each. 3 Pinion Skyfire armor is sell value of 1420 each. 2 freebooter armors are 1690 sell value each. Hellhound flamethrower is sell value of 3,510 credits. Medium machine gun is 2,310 credits sell value. 420 rounds would have a sell value of 189 credits total. Each high capacity petrol tank has a sell value of 28.

(5X 30)+(3X 1,420)+(2X 1,690)+3,510+2,310+189+(2X 28)+930 Credits=14,785 credits.
14,785 credits / 4 players = 3696.25 credits each. Just remember to subtract the sell value of whatever you are taking and make sure to let us know what you are taking. So if it is the flamethrower, you get 3696.25-3,150 credits=546.25

Mordack wants none of this, so he's adding 3696.25 credits to his inventory.
Also, now installing a Dimensional Gland, Experimental: 3,100 Credits. Now filling up his endocrine slot.

Nice feat for Yargnod (and good that you don't have Tier 12 mechs with those rolls).

Everyone ready to move on?

Yeah, there's a Mech Offensive trick, too but I figured that I'd focus on keeping the machines up rather than hitting hard.

I'll probably take the other one when the chance arises, though.

And yes, I'm ready to continue.

Mordack is ready.

Ready

All riiiiight , fellas. Let'sss goooooooo!

I look back at the Mech combat.
I'm in another Mech campaign with a DM who is running it live, via Roll20.
Mechageddon. None of us added our own piloting ranks or Base Attack bonus to the Mechs. According to him, you add that. I know this is true in Starship combat, you add your BAB to the ships own BAB or piloting to the ships piloting. So, for Time Knight for example, I would have rolled 1d20+10+8(My BAB last level). Hence why we were always missing and had to roll like a 16 just to hit. Yes you can use aim for 1d4, but 1d4 ain't much when you have to roll a 16 to hit. Cause honestly My character had a +14 to hit with ranged last level which means he can hit more often than the Mech, which doesn't make sense.

That's good to know for when we get these mechs back :D

Also is it piloting or piloting *ranks*?

Very good to know.

Piloting Ranks, but doublechecking with our DM to see if he is understanding the same thing as my Roll20 DM every other Friday. The DM running that one is David Linsay, but it is only startplaying, so it is a pay to play game.
Heck, I've been wrong a couple of times as a DM myself.

I dug up these paragraphs from Archives of Nethys. Looks like your other GM is right. See bold blue text way below.

Statistics and Modifiers
Source Tech Revolution pg. 112
A mech’s actions represent a combination of its operators’ skill and its own sophisticated machinery, and some of the modifiers a mech uses when performing actions reflect this union. When an operator grants a mech an action, the mech uses that operator’s relevant bonus or skill ranks to help calculate the mech’s total modifier. If more than one operator contributes to the same action—such as two operators working together to grant their mech a full action—the mech uses the higher of the two operators’ statistics when calculating its modifier. See page 98 for how to calculate most of a mech’s statistics.
Initiative Modifier: A mech’s initiative modifier equals the lowest initiative modifier among its operators (minimum +0). A mech’s minimum initiative modifier increases by 1 at tier 5 and every 5 tiers thereafter.
Skill Modifiers: A mech’s skill check modifier equals 5 + half its tier; for Athletics checks, also add the mech’s Strength modifier. When an operator grants their mech an action and the mech performs a skill check as part of that action, the mech can use the operator’s ranks in that skill (instead of half the mech’s tier) to determine its modifier. When performing a Strength- or Dexterity-based skill check, a mech can instead use its operator’s ranks in Piloting to determine the mech’s skill modifier.

Mech Statistics
Source Tech Revolution pg. 98
Use the following table and formulas to generate a mech’s statistics. Note that some mech components, such as upgrades, might further modify these statistics.
Hit Points (HP)
Base HP from frame and limbs + (Hit Point Advancement from frame and limbs × tier)
Shield Points (SP)
See Table 4–3.
Hardness
Hardness from frame + hardness bonus (see Table 4–3)
Armor Class
Base AC (see Table 4–3) + bonuses from frame and limbs
Saving Throws
Base save bonus (see Table 4–3) + bonuses from frame and lower limbs
Attack Bonus
Base attack bonus (see Table 4–3) + the operator’s base attack bonus or ranks in the Piloting skill + bonuses from upper limbs
Damage Modifier
Tier (+ Strength modifier [see Table 4–3] for melee attacks)
Strength Modifier
Strength modifier (see Table 4–3) + bonus from frame

That would explain why we were getting our butts kicked, at least we know now, and I'll make sure to give that guy a good review.

You are correct. Please increase your to hit appropriately. Assuming oyu get your mechs back...

Being able to use ranks in piloting instead of BAB is killer for most/all of us.

When we get our mechs back...

okay, so Flame Knight BAB is +10

Sefel has 12 ranks in piloting (over his personal BAB of +9). So his attacks with the flame knight will be made at +10+12.

I built Telirix to aid many skills, rather than star in a few. I might not get Shadow Knight back without help. Maybe I should just start punching.

I built Telirix to aid many skills, rather than star in a few. I might not get Shadow Knight back without help. Maybe I should just start punching.

You can try the Engineering checks to just keep it from moving until someone can come give you a hand, if you think you'd have better luck.

Hey guys. I'm going to be out of town starting tonight and coming back Monday so I likely won't post again until Tuesday.