Overlord Re-make... This is our story! (Inactive)

Game Master BloodWolven

Bob isn't humanoid. Pathfinder classifies him as a plant, which offends the purist in him a little while making sense to the rules lawyer part of him.

My short list is:
● The Eviscerators of Fate
● Deniable Plausibility
● Cutting Edge
● The Marauders

A couple notes as to why I didn't like some of the others.

Grievance may make people think we are griefers. Even if we are, you don't tell people about it.

Twilight would have everybody asking if we are brooding sparkly vampires who are still going to high school after a century.

Well in that case I will NOT change my character's last name to Cullen

Getting on Domayoku's mount raises a thought for me; would we be able to use any Feats to increase the potency of the mount we could use? Even without having the free mount, the monstrous companion feat allows a cr 4 creature; leadership would give me a cr 5 like a Winter Wolf or Nightmare. (My leadership rating is much higher, but cohorts max at 2 levels below yours).

This brings to mind what you had said initially about minions; what are the rules for building the four servants you requested? Levels, gestalt, templates, etc? Are they junior us's? Same rules, but gestalt level 5 would still make for some potent peons. If I'm making 4, one that could occasionally serve as a mount might even make sense.

Just call me Bob wrote:

Bob isn't humanoid. Pathfinder classifies him as a plant, which offends the purist in him a little while making sense to the rules lawyer part of him.

My short list is:
● The Eviscerators of Fate
● Deniable Plausibility
● Cutting Edge
● The Marauders

A couple notes as to why I didn't like some of the others.

Grievance may make people think we are griefers. Even if we are, you don't tell people about it.

Twilight would have everybody asking if we are brooding sparkly vampires who are still going to high school after a century.

Well in that case I will NOT change my character's last name to Cullen

Whew!
Glad we caught that, just in time!

I'm team Jacob anyway.

Lol @ Jacen!

Lol @ Amadea!

Yes you could use those feats.

Your four minions should be CR 5 or less. (6 HD or less, if I am thinking right.) If it is higher then it won't have hostile options such as the angel in the library. You can add templates but that would make it lose levels. No gestalt. Sure you could make one of them into a mount but I have given plenty of options to get one before that.

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My top two guild names are Darkness and Cutting Edge.

Getting on Domayoku's mount raises a thought for me; would we be able to use any Feats to increase the potency of the mount we could use? Even without having the free mount, the monstrous companion feat allows a cr 4 creature; leadership would give me a cr 5 like a Winter Wolf or Nightmare. (My leadership rating is much higher, but cohorts max at 2 levels below yours).

This brings to mind what you had said initially about minions; what are the rules for building the four servants you requested? Levels, gestalt, templates, etc? Are they junior us's? Same rules, but gestalt level 5 would still make for some potent peons. If I'm making 4, one that could occasionally serve as a mount might even make sense.

I don't see Boon Companion in this list ... one of my all time favorites

Jacen Benedictt wrote:

Just call me Bob wrote:

Bob isn't humanoid. Pathfinder classifies him as a plant, which offends the purist in him a little while making sense to the rules lawyer part of him.

My short list is:
● The Eviscerators of Fate
● Deniable Plausibility
● Cutting Edge
● The Marauders

A couple notes as to why I didn't like some of the others.

Grievance may make people think we are griefers. Even if we are, you don't tell people about it.

Twilight would have everybody asking if we are brooding sparkly vampires who are still going to high school after a century.

Well in that case I will NOT change my character's last name to Cullen

Whew!
Glad we caught that, just in time!

I'm team Jacob anyway.

LOL right?

and in full transparency, I am also WAY Team Jacob myself.
I would mortgage part of my soul for that, wow

No need, since any bonus companion would be linked to your HD anyway.

Lady Ekaterina, I am not sure if I am technically humanoid.

For half-dragon it says: Type: Creature type changes to dragon. I would assume I am still a humanoid dragon. I am not sure.

Domayoku is an outsider (native), according to the template.

Lady Ekaterina, I am not sure if I am technically humanoid.

For half-dragon it says: Type: Creature type changes to dragon. I would assume I am still a humanoid dragon. I am not sure.

You are correct.

What should my super power be, I was thinking of something with frost or ice:
Frosty aura
Breath weapon like Kazko, I really didn't want to copy it
Hmmm...

What should my super power be, I was thinking of something with frost or ice:

Frosty aura
Breath weapon like Kazko, I really didn't want to copy it
Hmmm...

Here are a couple of aura spells to get ideas from. The idea of doing fatigue or slow or staggered if they fail a save is a cool idea.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/e/elemental-aura/

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/f/fire-shield/

I had a few questions I was waiting to be answered about the bonus rewards for the story.

Can the CR 3 mount become your animal companion?

Does the Breath Weapon work for the Super Power?

Can we save the Wish?

I feel like I already answered them, oh well it must not have went through.

Can the CR 3 mount become your animal companion?
What was my previous ruling on this, I am pretty sure it is a NO.
Does the Breath Weapon work for the Super Power?
Yes it does!
Can we save the Wish?
Yes you may save the wish.

I'm Undead (Augmented).

But still humanoid I believe.....without the skin...or flesh... or organs....

I"m neither Team Jacaob nor Edward.

I lack fur, flesh, fangs, blood etc.

I support Team Bones.

I think Half fiends should qualify for profane gifts because Arelu Vorlesh was one and had a profane gift, albeit from a Lilitu, but these have the same limitation concerning humanoids only.

Other question, can I profane gift myself?

I realized I forgot to roll for HP. I will rectify that now.
2nd level: 1d12 ⇒ 5
3rd level: 1d12 ⇒ 4
4th level: 1d12 ⇒ 9
5th level: 1d12 ⇒ 3
Oh well. Not the greatest. But now I can update my character profile.

Ouch! Heartbreaking post. Nice one!

lol just to indicate that Ginza is slow at times.

Ok, one more question. For the animal companion. Does it get it's level and abilities based on your total HD or class HD?

Ekaterinas henchmen are "Overcompensat03" which was her alt account (when she just wanted to smesh something) that somehow got a very basic intelligence (in line with its actual int score), and "Akademik Zakharov" a Soviet-Scientist-Wizard.

Animal Companions have their own table actually.....

You might want to see that here.

Ginza' companions are collectively known as the Four Horsemen of Newbie's Bane. Dungeon Bosses that are tough to defeat for their individual tiers.

Purchasable as a DLC but almost no one would spend on them as their basic gear is weak but Ginza being a wallet warrior has equipped them with DLC Shop weapons/Gear/Abilities..

keep rolling hp for he glasscannon: 1d10 ⇒ 9 Oh nice, still I only haz 2 hero levels because all my CR be in Templates!

I know they have their own table, but where they are on the table is based on your level. So the question is how do we determine our level?

We're level 7.

Is, "I wish I had six functioning arms, just like my mother," an acceptable wish? I dropped Alchemist as part of my build since I went melee, but six arms would still be really cool. To be as large as her might be a reasonable backup ask (not enlarged, but just be a large creature).

For superpower, I was thinking about one of the other Marilith powers; they have permanent Trueseeing and at-will Greater Teleportation (self only). Would either of those work as a power (perhaps lesser Teleportation)? They also get an always on Unholy Aura, but that seems too much, even to me.

Just about done my crunch, just need to import it to my profile page and finish off a few details. Then I can start my background to earn all the extras I've already taken. Should our background include anything about our off-line personas? This gets pretty meta when we have a character playing a character...

Large is always a double-edged sword. squeezing penalties suck. If you can pick up a belt of the weasel, you'll do okay in 5' corridors and such.

I think Half fiends should qualify for profane gifts because Arelu Vorlesh was one and had a profane gift, albeit from a Lilitu, but these have the same limitation concerning humanoids only.

Other question, can I profane gift myself?

Yes to half fiend. Yes you can give yourself one.

Ok, one more question. For the animal companion. Does it get it's level and abilities based on your total HD or class HD?

Animal companion would get bonuses as if you were a 7th level druid.

Is, "I wish I had six functioning arms, just like my mother," an acceptable wish? I dropped Alchemist as part of my build since I went melee, but six arms would still be really cool. To be as large as her might be a reasonable backup ask (not enlarged, but just be a large creature).

For superpower, I was thinking about one of the other Marilith powers; they have permanent Trueseeing and at-will Greater Teleportation (self only). Would either of those work as a power (perhaps lesser Teleportation)? They also get an always on Unholy Aura, but that seems too much, even to me.

Just about done my crunch, just need to import it to my profile page and finish off a few details. Then I can start my background to earn all the extras I've already taken. Should our background include anything about our off-line personas? This gets pretty meta when we have a character playing a character...

Yes that is an acceptable wish.

Ill try to do other gift givings with a bit more fanfare :).

So Ekaterina, are we hustling or what? I think we were crossposting about both going east, and then I let you know we can both hustle.

Lets hustle along then! Weeee, flying is fun!

Okay here are my companions/defenders.

The Rumor began as a macro. For a while there was a period marked by guilds splitting up and there was some nasty infighting. Nobody knows how to exploit your weaknesses like your guild. Bob didn't think that anybody was going to do that here, but he didn't want to be taken by surprise. so he made an inconspicuous little spy to keep track of things. He hid her code in other functions. Of course he also programmed her to keep track of enemy movements if we were ever invaded. Despite being sneaky about her, occasionally people will find notes about hot gossip appearing where they least expect it.

Inkarnate is a prize captured from a really annoying dungeon. It's a set of living tattoos that flow over people defending the castle to provide a little protection and a few extra attacks with inky blades. When the battle looks desperate, the tattoos disappear to wind up on some other defender, all healed up. When we won, we were able to take this defender and install it in our base.

While Hetfield is an enormous mass of elemental sand, he's also a musician. Despite performing at ear-splitting volumes, his music is strangely relaxing and helps you to drift off at night.

Doug is our janitor. He's a 20' pubble of ooze that flows along eating anything organic and sweeping up everything inorganic. He can also flow over the walls and ceilings to get rid of those annoying cobwebs. When he's not cleaning up or eating intruders, he's growing his own special "herbal remedies". Always a good mix with Hetfield's concerts.

So you traveled on the dire hyena for most of a day. Now are returning to the guild house?

Yes. To report our findings.

GM, do you want me to stat out the five companions?

Kazko you don't have to but if you want to have fun!

Bob what is the limit range pf your telepathy. I know with Lady Ekaterina's link to Jacen the three of them can communicate. Can others as well?

Next day I probably profane gift one other more humanoid member, oh, they can communicate with me, not with each other, I can act as a relay though.

Man these builds are so complicated; just when I start to get everything transferred over to my Profile, I find more unselected options. It's fun, but there is just so much.

I like what Bob has done with his NPC's; I had just assumed we'd build them like normal characters, but he has started with monsters and modded them. That's a great idea!

Going for the quirky miniboss squad myself.
Although one will be a midly psychotic silvanshee ex familar that kind of cannibalized its master.

Kazko you don't have to but if you want to have fun!

Bob what is the limit range pf your telepathy. I know with Lady Ekaterina's link to Jacen the three of them can communicate. Can others as well?

At this level it's 520'. Like a long range spell. So useful in a battle, but not a strategic option. yet.

I like what Bob has done with his NPC's; I had just assumed we'd build them like normal characters, but he has started with monsters and modded them. That's a great idea!

I figure that if we're monsters, we'd have monster allies. Plus it's cool to look for things you just can't do in a normal game. They'd also look cool in the anime version.

Hitpoints: 6d10 ⇒ (9, 9, 10, 8, 8, 9) = 53

Holy crap! I guess I just got nominated as the tank.

Welcome Tank.

Ekaterina is evil, I mean, affably and reasonable evil but still evil.

Possible plots:

1:

She pretends to be the "East Lake Trade company", turns up in a Victorian custome featuring a top hat, and begins a gradual takeover of the fish and potatoe based trade goods, making use of Bobs undeniable agricultural expertize to end up with plantations of psychogenic substances, with which she will destabilize neighbouring countries while generating massive profits.

2:

Pick a kingdom that doesnt comply to our plans, kickstart a sexual revolution using her own related abilities, generating massive unrest and alienating the younger urban middleclasses from the more conservative churchgoers.

3:

Build a printing press, and distribute subtly altered copies of local legal frameworks with an aim to creating exploitable strife.

I currently prefer 1.

The whole Good/Evil discussion is probably a good one to have. We have a large number of half-fiends, of one flavour or another, and I think somewhat inspired by the source material, we have an overall kind of evil vibe to the group.

Then again, we are not strictly speaking just our characters; we are characters playing/embodying our characters. How does that play out? A lot of people have no problem playing a game mowing down NPC's because their character is evil, but that starts to look a lot different when those NPC's have children, or perhaps even are children.

In the anime, I think we see that flash of green light over Momon every time his emotions start to contradict what a Lich should be capable of feeling, thus funneling his actions towards Neutral Evil. How is this going to play out for us? I am thinking that we are probably mostly normal people who would range from Lawful Good to True Neutral, but our in-game alignments might provide urges and temptations we are not used to.

I am wondering if something akin to a Hero Point system might help, where the GM says you feel an overwhelming urge to X, and you'll get an RP point if you go with it.

Welcome Tank.

You are not looking too bad yourself there, Mr. 113 HP Rejuvinating after 1d10 days even if destroyed undead fella!

When building, I was actually focusing on battlefield control. Large when Raging, Long Arms giving me reach 15ft, I can park in the middle of any thoroughfare, and everyone that wants to get to the squishies behind me has to deal with combat reflexed AoO's for every step forward.

Domayoku calls himself 'The Demon King', but often his true nature comes through and helps those around him, like his fellow guildmates.
Many 'Demon Lords' in anime don't seem vary evil at all. That's how I'm playing Domayoku currently.

Did starting wealth ever get adjusted? 20000gp was the initial suggestion by DM Wolf but that was before things were changed from 5 HD to 7. One of the things that stands out in the show is having all sorts of accumulated magic items, most of which are beyond the current manufacturing capabilities of the locals.

Edit:
Reading through the recruitment and discussion forums in full, and seeing that yes, this has been codified. Unfortunately.

One line that comes to mind is that "Chaotic evil people can still be nice to their friends."

I've only seen the first season of the anime so far, so I don't know how that part goes. And of course, we have a GM introducing unique elements. So part of the question of alignment is if the world has proscriptive alignment or reactive alignment. Proscriptive alignment is that you have an alignment and have to act accordingly. Reactive is that you take actions and your alignment comes from that. I suspect we'll figure this out over time.

Bob is True Neutral. No, it's not some cosmic balance thing with him, it's just that he weighs the costs and benefits of actions as they go. He doesn't feel an immediate need to help people innately, though he realizes that being seen as helpful is useful. He would consider torture if needed, but it would have to be serious enough to overcome the downsides if this gets out.

Alignment has more class ramifications than anything. If you are a monk and choose to do more chaotic things you will be warned before you lose your monk abilities.

What other classes does the group have that have alignment restrictions.

Your true alignment would be with the player not the character, though the nuances of the character would begin to generate! Though that is up to you if that is how you want to play it.

Thanks to Bob I am using both:
Proscriptive alignment is that you have an alignment and have to act accordingly. (class restrictions)
Reactive is that you take actions and your alignment comes from that. (Which is where your alignment will begin to change based on your actions.)
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You guys are overpowered enough, I am not going to increase the gp limit, you will find magic items galore soon enough! Assuming you go looking for them.

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One of the things that stands out in the show is having all sorts of accumulated magic items, most of which are beyond the current manufacturing capabilities of the locals.

I have plans for this which will require some searching of the keep! XD

Though a vast majority of the magical items that you had have lost their magical ability or are now just simple versions of them. You are also starting off as a CR 10 rather than CR 25 or up to 30!

I am wondering if something akin to a Hero Point system might help, where the GM says you feel an overwhelming urge to X, and you'll get an RP point if you go with it.

I am very interested in this idea! Though I would love to have suggestions and help as needed.