
Robert, le Bâtard |

Guys, guys, don't all gang up on Doritian!
There's enough firepower there already, but we have 3 foci to deal with!
Problem 1: Secunda has tangled both our clerics. One is down, and on -5, the other is nearby. We have Zhu nearby, but it won't help much if he focuses on Doritian.
Problem 2: Xorshak is the arcane glass-cannon and he's shielded against missiles. Kyrax, just grapple the guy, will you? Throw him to the ground, that should make him unable to cast spells unless he has a feat for that. Plus, he's not a decent melee fighter, so maybe his grapple bonus will be low. Anyway, if someone could help it would be great.
Problem 3: Arma. Yes, she's one of us. But due to very good roleplaying, she's now effectively paralyzed by Doritian, attacking no one. Either someone deal enough subdual damage to put Doritian to sleep or force Arma out of the way. If Arma could focus on Xorshak it would be great, actually.
Pontia: is a free token at the moment, and with arcane range can probably be very effective. I would focus on Secunda and Xorshak, for the reasons explained above.
Will it be possible to sync our actions before the next round, draw a plan of some kind? If you guys prefer to be more realistic and just act on personal choice as on a battlefield where no one knows each other, it's ok, but I would also assume that after so much time together the characters would have had time to discuss tactics.

Kyrax Preyfar |

Re, Robert, first I have already considered grapple. But inhale only had a single standard action so far and had to use a LJ point to get there to do that. And I did 19 points o damage and disrupted his spell in doing so. So I think my one round was pretty stellar.
You telling me to grapple is air like you playing my character, which I am not fond of. When I get a second turn I'll certainly consider grapple. Been grappling wizards for years. But his character has strength 10 and could easily fail. Plus he will provoke and the AOO could drop him. it will also count against his grapple check. In all its not a very good chance of success. But I will consider it when I act.
My thought is that everyone should be attacking the wizard.

DM Quoth |

Any suggestions for Bydar?
Thus far he has disarmed a foe only to have said foe absolutely kick ass with a backup weapon
And heal an ally barely to zero ;)
Hey now, you're doing okay in my book. ^^ Those same attacks would have been even more destructive with a longsword, and you saved Kezzat from death.
On the subject of Kezzat: by my calculations, she should still have had 2 hp. She's only taken 16 damage so far...

Kyrax Preyfar |

Re, Robert, first I have already considered grapple. But inhale only had a single standard action so far and had to use a LJ point to get there to do that. And I did 19 points o damage and disrupted his spell in doing so. So I think my one round was pretty stellar.
You telling me to grapple is air like you playing my character, which I am not fond of. When I get a second turn I'll certainly consider grapple. Been grappling wizards for years. But his character has strength 10 and could easily fail. Plus he will provoke and the AOO could drop him. it will also count against his grapple check. In all its not a very good chance of success. But I will consider it when I act.
My thought is that everyone should be attacking the wizard.
Posted the above on my phone. Sorry for all the typos. I loled reading it.

Robert, le Bâtard |

Fair enough, Kyrax. I didn't mean to impose nor play anyone's character. Sorry if I came out too strong on that.
Grapple was a suggestion for the next round, and of course your round was very good as it is, it's just that as you said you are in a difficult situation alone in there.
What I meant was a call to arms for us to synchronize, because this is the boss battle and we don't have many chances. So once again I apologize for appearing to want to play for everyone else. I just meant to start a discussion. I'm playing another game at the same time and we tend to decide a tactics a lot before the big battles, so guess that is just me being used to it.
Anyway, I can stop here, but if anyone else would like to consider tactical planning before proceeding I think that would be our best course of action. Plus, I don't claim to have the best answers: I debated for a long time whether I should attack Secunda or Xorshak. I only chose Secunda because that is where our cleric power is. Regarding my grapple suggestion, that was simply what seemed to be the best chance or survival for Kyrax, since he is alone and no one else is in range to help, unless they charge and I'm not sure about that. Regarding the AoO, that may be, but I'm trusting Xorshak is not a good melee fighter. Besides, Xorshak himself is subject to AoO when casting a spell.
Re Bydar: I missed to notice the healing of Kezzat, I thought she was still in negatives. Pontia has summoned a monster and that possibly will give some trouble to Secunda. Bydar is doing well, it is important to keep Kezzat alive, and at the moment the only other place Bydar could be is with Kyrax. I suppose it should be possible to take Arma away from Doritian, but I may not be seeing it correctly.
However, my point is that there seem to be too many people converging on Doritian, so Bydar and Kyrax are not the ones that need to redeploy, so to say. We just have to think better on how to divide our forces.

Kyrax Preyfar |

I never mind ideas or recommendations. But your suggestion just seemed premature since I have not had a chance grapple yet even if I had planned to do so. But the more I think about it I think its a bad idea.
Grapple analysis:
Kyrax has a +1 CMB. Lets say an average 7th-8th level wizard would have a CMD of (BAB of +3 and combination of Dex and Strength modifier of +3) 16. So, Kyrax only has a 25% of succeeding IF the wizard misses his AOO. If he hits then Kyrax has to subtract the damage from his CMB and has less of a chance. This would on average mean he would need a nat 20 to grapple, and even that might fail.
Kyrax's AC is 18. If the wizard is +4 to hit with his staff then he has a 10% better chance to hit Kyrax with his AOO than Kyrax has to grapple. This lowers Kyrax's total chance of success to about 17%.
Add to this the chance that the wizard could do 8 or more damage with his AOO and take Kyrax to below zero, and I might want to look at other options. Does that make sense?

Mirandix Anterian |

Is it a new round?
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Robert, le Bâtard |

Fair enough. Plus, it seems my assessment of who's on whom was also a bit wrong. Let's make it plain here:
Engagements:
Xorshak: Kyrax in close quarters, Noya firing from ranged, but apparently the wizard has protection against missiles. By the way, I am not certain Kyrax did any damage to the wizard, given that there was no blodd on the sword. But I am not calling that into the game, since my PC does not know that.
Regarding my suggestion of grapple, I was relying on the wizard being unarmed. Seems I was wrong too.
Doritian: Mirandix fighting, Arma defending, Zhu from range.
Secunda: Kezzat down (last stats on the thread, those I relied on, said she was at -4 and stable, posted after Bydar's CLW. Bydar nearby. Robert from range and Pontia with spells.
Positions:
- Kyrax in melee range with Xorshak
- Myrandix and Arma in melee range with Doritian
- Kezzat, and hopefully an extra monster, in melee range with Secunda
- Noya and Pontia rather freely position
- Robert, Zhu and Bydar relatively close to Doritian, and Secunda.

Zhu Katai |

I understand where you're coming from, though. I'm sure it looked like too many of us were hanging up on Doritian. Zhu was simply trying (badly!) to weaken him with Ray of Enfeeblement so he wouldn't do as much damage and give Arma more of a chance, and the Ray wouldn't do much against Secunda or Xorshak, who aren't really using Strength. But there's no way for you to have known that, in character or out.

Kyrax Preyfar |
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Same. I saw I was put to sleep for 30 minutes to 3 hours and figured I was out of the game for a day or two. Now I seem to be about 25 posts behind. lol :) Its a good problem.

DM Quoth |

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!
We have just about reached the end of the first leg of this campaign! You've seen just about everything there is to be seen about Xorshak's tower, and our next stop is Imperial Cheliax! Once you've completed your exploration of the tower, we'll fast-forward to where everyone has woken up again and we can get this merry band back on the road to civilization! Yaay~! ... Right? ;)

Arma Fili Sustinuit |

I don't use TortiseSVN so read up on it. Well as it is freeware if as you claim there is not some secreted malware (Though the fact that it seems to at the very least perform functions that conflict with a host of Antivirus programs makes me question it.) then it is possibly prone to errors. The other possibility is that it could be weakening your computer to other possible outward attacks if it is recognized as needing to bypass the security of said programs. The fact is the majority of sites I got when I typed in TortiseSVN all seemed to be questioning some error or if it had installed a virus.
But I am no expert on the program really but I don't think I would use it from what I have seen.
Still, I hope you resolve the issue soon Noya! :)