
Moira Keening |

Hopefully it can pull through! Table collapse can feel like a breakup. Maybe everyone can talk through whatever's going on--but like breakups, sometimes its best to end it when things aren't fun anymore. Pretty obvious observations, but I'm rooting for your live table. A good one is hard to find.
A live table... hmm, that gives me an idea for a construct... Salom! Hey, Salom!

Moira Keening |

Might be time to invest in one of these.
Of course, Thea's immunity to paralysis proved extremely useful...

GM Zed |

Might be time to invest in one of these.
Of course, Thea's immunity to paralysis proved extremely useful...
...and yeah, you're still chasing Ghouls so.... just saying, is all!!!

Alexis Von Brant |

Part of the table can be salvaged, which is good, but not all of it. I still get to game with the people I like better but some stuff is gonna change. Honestly it was along time coming. i should be back and clearly you all have been busy. On Friday I am moving so I will not be posting then. But I should have a little more free time after my move since my live table is on hiatus while we figure stuff out.

Moira Keening |

I am just an internet friend, but I'm also curious as a housecat (or houseparrot). Not to distract you from your move or your move (either moves between houses or moves in game) or anything... but what went wrong? I will not be an iota offended if you'd rather not hash it out on our discussion forum!

Alexis Von Brant |

I don't mind. I tend to be very nosy and curiosity is not a bad trait :) I will put it in a spoiler as I am not sure everyone wants to hear about my drama.
My best friend had just moved into a house and had understandably been missing before December. On January 2nd or 3rd she had to take in a foster child or let the 9 month old enter the system. Her husband is active in the military, I think it is the guard, so he is gone a lot. She has been holding down a full time job, raising a baby that isn't hers, and been a part-time single mother to boot. In my depression I have not been there enough as well. So she is rather depressed as well. A depressed bada$$!
Since December 2nd I have attended one session and she has attended 4. Another friend who is new to the table was lost a few family members and is equal with me in attendance. We also have a player who tends to talk summer jobs to pay bills so he misses for months at a time.
Now the guy who was running a game, Robotech, never contacted any of us to figure out if we were gonna show up or if we were ok. Not once in four months. He runs a very player driven game, all of them are like that. Apparently to the point that the story cannot continue without certain players. Which is bad for a game. So he has been running filler for months and growing bitter about it.
My best friend attended and had everyone b!&!# and complain at her for her attendance. Once she said was fine. They might have needed to vent. But then it happens a second time and she was not allowed to offer her own complaints. She felt drug though the mud. Asked if she could handle being in a game and b++&!ed at for her attendance but could not complain. She let me know, not the GM, that he was shelving the game. Also that they would have liked to know that I was moving, something that if they called or texted they could have learned. I have been busy.
The one session I had attended the GM made me very uncomfortable. My character had falling into a spiral and was developing a sort of PTSD, my choice that I felt the character would go that route based on what had happened in the narrative. Anyways the GM told me that he was going to start giving me mechanical penalties for that. The game had that in the core mechanics. I was fine with that. I do not mind, I even like, that kind of thing. He raised his voice and practically yelled at him. Everything in his physical and verbal behavior said he did not like this. But he brought it up and I said 'Bring it.'
I had been reluctant to go back after that. The GM controls the world but the player controls their character, that is all we have. And because it did not fit his narrative and plan for a future campaign it pissed him off. I also planned to have the character activly seek her death in the final fight and space herself if she didn't die in the fight. I never talked about that with him cause I was concerned about his reaction. Something that should never happen in a game, in my opinion at least. That was in February I think.
Then last week was the breaking point. She went and I did not. They were gonna talk about what they wanted to do. She proposed running short modules and her brother said board games, which we had done before and had a blast. But he didn't wanna. He wanted a separate game for every situation pending who was gone. Which is insane! More b$@#&ing was done and at 830 she called my crying and we talked as she drove home.
I left her house at 4 in the morning. Apparently her brother did not try to defend her. And the GM had told him he was done with both of us but never tried to figure out why we weren't there. She spent a few hours on the phone talking with her brother and they are better now.
I texted him to let him know that he mad me feel disregarded and uncomfortable. That I have been really depressed and feared attending and getting b!@#%ed at. Bad mix with depression. He said he did not contact me in four months to respect my privacy and that he is and has always been concerned about those he calls friend. That he is sure his words will fall flat and that I might not care bur that is my decision. But if I wanna talk we can.
I asked him why he ever called or texted. Why he let himself get this mad. Then he said that emotions were too raw and we should not talk. I said I would give him time if he needs it but I was fine. Haven heard back from him yet.
The worst thing someone can do to ensure that I do not care is insist that I don't care. Don't tell me how I feel. I'm thirty and have not had an easy life. Could have been worse and the last few years have been bad but only I pick my emotions. Making my childhood best friend, who has been going though hell, cry for hours was the last straw for me. You can screw with me but not with those that I call mine. I only contacted him because she said I should try.
Sorry about the massive wall of text and the pity party but you asked for it.

Moira Keening |
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I have a big freelance job with a deadline heading for me like a freight train--I'll write a longer response later, but for now, I'm thinkin' of you! Big Moira hugs. You're doing your best to be a good friend and good family to the people who need it most, and that's more important than any game.
Here's something I saw at Costco yesterday that might make you chuckle.

Salom Mortara |

It sounds like your group wasn't compatible on a very basic level, and I'm shocked the game went on as long as it did. You're probably much better off without this game, TBH. Maybe you should consider running a solo game for your best friend? I've read that those can be fun.

Rigo'Sharva |

Getting the right game requires the right GM with the right players. It can take awhile to find that. The right GM is more important than the right players, honestly, as the right GM can usually smooth things over with the players.

Alexis Von Brant |

We were a rather large group with there being eight of us if we all were there, including whoever was running. And we rotated who was running. So many of us want to run a game. I was the only one that didn't like the rotating. We planned and rarely succeeded in one game for 3 months and then another so there was plenty of prep time available. Everyone but him and his wife, who was bowing out for health reasoned and has not responded to me, is still happy to continue to play together. Along with another person.
I agree that the right GM and right players are very important. Along with clear defined rules. Things like comfort levels and what we expect. This was never gone over. I tried once and got nothing from the husband and wife.
My best friend is a very empathetic person and wants to try to work something out with him. I am willing but he is gonna have to jump though some really big hoops for me to change my mind. I do not want to compromise with him, he hurt what is mine and myself and I am not a very forgiving person after I have been spurned. He won't like that I do not trust him as a GM.
He thinks he is a really good GM. He also believes that we could never guess his plot. Seven to one is bad odds and we are not dumb people. Some of the best advice I have received is to know that you can never outsmart the group. They can pool their ideas and the GM is alone. The GM needs to be able to improvise that it was the plan all along. He needs to learn some serious humility and to take criticism with grace. I can do it and rather gracefully. I am running my first game.
Yep the zombies are moving in formation. Trust me it makes since near the end. That was my best friends complaint. And since it was the third combat I had run it was well founded. Well the zombies had someone controlling them. She said it was good. and well done.
I had a big fight over a necrotic seal and the dead keep reviving. The undead kept attacking the who NPC's that were trying to put a magic cap over the seal and while they were taking damage they couldn't. They players had to figure that out. The Dragon lady almost died. He said I would have ruined my game with that. I had options if they failed to keep both NPC's alive but it was meant to be tense. He said I should never leave something big up to chance. But he was the player and I am not sure he likes that seat cause you are supposed to not know things. Everyone else liked that fight. Super tense! I had run a few dozen fights at this point.
I can do tense and suspense. I have made them fear getting their loot before!
Sorry about the rant. I should be sleeping.

Moira Keening |

I'm hamming up her interest in the undead because she's gonna get a ton of goodies related to them when she hits Dirge Bard level 2!
Also, I pictured a zombie sealion when I first read "necrotic seal." And then the party had to put a magic hat on it! Yes. But even as the other kind of seal, that sounds like a really fun fight to me.

Salom Mortara |

To all of my games: I've come down with something that might or might not be serious. I don't know yet, but I might even need surgery. I'll try to keep you all updated as I learn more. Please forgive any unannounced absences from the game in the coming days.

Rigo'Sharva |

Health comes first, take care, good luck.

GM Zed |

To all of my games: I've come down with something that might or might not be serious. I don't know yet, but I might even need surgery. I'll try to keep you all updated as I learn more. Please forgive any unannounced absences from the game in the coming days.
Yeah, fingers crossed and look after yourself... Salom, his clickety-clackety daughter and the whole heaving mess that is the Blight can wait until you've got yourself sorted.

Audria |

I'll be praying for ya Salom. Take care and hope that the prognosis is good.

Aishe Danior |

Well folks, I'm sorry to say, but I must bow out of the campaign. As I already told our illustrious GM Zed, I'm a bit over extended, and need to pull a game or two to find balance. This is new so it's the first on the chopping block.
It's been a pleasure getting out of the pits of prison with you and I wish you luck finding your way to salvation. Cool campaign!
See you around the boards. :)

Rigo'Sharva |

Sorry to see you go. :(
@GM - Going to recruit again?

GM Zed |

...going to keep with five players for now - I have another table trundling their way through Brandon Hodge's 'Crooked Nail' (some of the same faces you met in the Discussion / Recruitment Thread). If there is a need to bring another character into the group then I would likely offer it to someone from there :) But let's see how we go...

Audria |

Sorry to see you go, too. I know Audria's gonna miss you, but I understand about needing to find balance.
That said, I wonder what horrible fate will befall poor Aishe.

Rigo'Sharva |

So, to transport the heads safely through town, wrap a strip of cloth around from the crown of the head to the neck stump two or three times, then melt wax over the cloth. THat should form a seal over the stump to cut down most of the blood loss, and then stuff the heads in the pillow and use the remaining stuffing to get it into a pillow shape again around the heads?

Audria |

Sorry for my absence. Work and my sister's birthday have eaten most of the past two days. This is the first chance I've had to post since Monday.

Alexis Von Brant |
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I would like to mention that this song has been floating around in my sleep deprived head for a while thanks to this game.

Rigo'Sharva |

Reminder of things to do in Game :
1) Dispose of corpses (River) (Yes, our resident necrophilliac can say prayers)
2) Prestidigitate Waggon and stuff in wagon to get rid of blood.
3) Cast Mending on anything that's dinged up/cracked/etc.
4) Sell contents of wagon
5) Mend/Repair wagon so it looks new(ish)
6) Repaint Wagon
7) Replace/dye Ironee's harness
8) Replace/Dye Ironee for a few weeks.

GM Zed |

Reminder of things to do in Game :
1) Dispose of corpses (River) (Yes, our resident necrophilliac can say prayers)
2) Prestidigitate Waggon and stuff in wagon to get rid of blood.
3) Cast Mending on anything that's dinged up/cracked/etc.
4) Sell contents of wagon
5) Mend/Repair wagon so it looks new(ish)
6) Repaint Wagon
7) Replace/dye Ironee's harness
8) Replace/Dye Ironee for a few weeks.
Good list... and you folks can deal with much of it 'on / off camera' as you see fit when this 'scene' finishes and we move forwards into the next days...
All - we are about halfway through your first level adventure... but we are up to around a thousand posts and I was thinking we should definitely have some recognition - I considered hero points but I'd like to keep those to one a level (plus when really cool heroic stuff happens). What are folks thoughts on Staggered Advancement a la Pathfinder Unchained?
Under that system you folks would identify what class level you are taking when we hit Level 2 officially... and then you'd get two of:
- 50% of your HP for that level,
- your BAB increase at that level,
- your Save increases at that level.
You'd also get half of your skill points...
Thoughts? I think it might be a fun little experiment and a recognition of your characters having grown in experience...

Audria |

Sure. I'm up for it.
I have to say that Audria's gotten away from me a bit. She's not the timid mousy girl she was. She's starting to get a temper and a sharp way with people that get on her nerves. I'm not sure what that will mean down the road when we start learning what happened to her. I do hope that the personality shift isn't too inconvenient for GM Zed. I can just chalk it up to a long, rough night and not being so afraid.

Rigo'Sharva |

Fine with me. Rigo could use some class abilities and armor.

Alexis Von Brant |

I have no clue what that is so I am all for it. Could you please provied a link if it on the SRD?
Audria you should be fine. Timid and mousy works just as well as temperamental. Both take a bit of work as a shy character tends to lean heavily on the party in role-play and combat. While a sharp tongued character can lead to in character arguing, which can be its own form of fun. Mostly so long as she is still willing to work with a team I have no issue with however she turns out. The solo character is harder to play with as this is a co-operative game.
Being snapped at by Audria certainly caught Alexis's attention and she has some issues with fire to work out as well.

Rigo'Sharva |


Salom Mortara |
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I am back! And healthy (knock on wood). I have some reading to do to catch up in game in seems.
I'm also okay with staggered advancement. There's no downside to it, really.

Moira Keening |

GM Zed |

Excellent - Staggered Advancement it is!!! No guarantees that we'll do it again between level 2 and level 3 (I'll have to read through Chapter 2 of the adventure and decide whether there is a sensible point in time that makes sense...)
But for now, in recognition of having escaped the Redemption and having successfully insinuated themselves into the Grast family's business - everyone can have a 'Staggered Advancement'.
So everyone may choose 2 of (but no duplicating you crazy cats!!!!)
- 50% of your HP for that level,
- your BAB increase at that level,
- your Save increases at that level.
Plus everyone gets half of the skill points that they would normally get at Level 2....
If you could post what you've decided to do w.r.t. advancement in the Discussion thread, it makes it easier for your poor ole GM :)

Rigo'Sharva |

Ok, so, input now. I was thinking of going Slayer for Rigo. If anyone has a suggestion of a different path to take, let me know.
My thought was to take as Slayer Talents the following (in some order) :
Catfolk Talent -> Vicious Claws (Ups sneak attack to d8 instead of d6)
Ranger Style -> Improved Natural Attack (Claws go up to 1d6), Rending Claws (Adds 1d6 to second claw attack if it hits).
Also, I was seriously considering taking the warhound archetype (if the GM permits, he's been thinking about it). This will get Rigo a flanking buddy that doesn't require the mostly squishy PC's in the party to close to melee range.
Thoughts?